Originally posted by GGG
I believe in the right to do whatever you want to your body. Grow tits, cut off your dick, tattoo your face like a liserd. Don't give a fuck. Your body is yours.
I don't believe that there is a difference between sex and gender. You are your biology. I mean, the whole 'social construct' respect thing doesn't apply to literally ANYTHING ELSE, so I don't see why it would apply to transgender people. If I told you I felt like I was born black, you would probably look at me pretty crazy. But if I GENUINELY thought that, 100% believed I was a born black, would anybody seriously treat me as black? If I thought I was a fallen angel, would anybody treat me as such JUST because I believed in it? I could do it out of respect or whatever, but I don't feel like lying about my beliefs to people when they think I'm being accepting and nice.
But I like HTS. I think he's pretty rational and objective about the whole thing. He does a good job at passing when he tries, and actually looks pretty cute. I'm sure he doesn't like what I'm saying here, but I just can't accept that he's a woman and I'm not going to pretend like I do. If we could somehow make a transition process that leaves you biologically indistinguishable from a woman, then yes, I would say that you are a woman since you have the chromosomes and the uterus and vagina and etc, etc. But science is shit now and transition surgeries are just drugs and plastic surgery.
Men and women are not simply differentiated by their name. There is biology behind it. There always has been. That people want to pretend otherwise does not change that. I don't say it to hurt anybody's feelings, or because I have a problem with transgender people. We're all equal, but science is science is truth.
I don't want to derail this thread too much.
So I will just summarize my position on it...
I wasn't always comfortable with the notion of calling someone who was born with a penis a woman, or someone born with a vagina a man, whether or not they still possess these same organs or not.
It seemed off to me.
But with time, I came to empathize.
I guess, if I were at peak acceptance/support levels, I would consider HTS, for example, to be completely indistinguishable from a naturally-born woman.
To be totally honest, I don't.
To me, there are gender-based categories, and I'm totally comfortable with considering HTS to be in a category that
has certain femininine attributes, including the pronouns.
But if I had to be totally honest, I don't know if I'm comfortable/accepting enough that I would actually be able get fully monogomously/romantically involved with someone who was trans, even
after all hormone replacement and full transitional surgery.
So basically, what I'm saying is, on the acceptance spectrum, I'm not perfect, but I do respect her right to be considered a woman in just about every respect, especially something as simple as pronouns.
And the only reason I really brought it up in this thread is because I was genuinely confused by your post when you said "he is wasting your tax dollars on meth" or whatever. You're going against the grain by continuing to use "he".
Also, for the record, anything other "he" or "she", and then I start becoming less open-minded.
I doubt I would ever be able to call someone xhe or "they" in the singular or any of that crazy shit.
But if HTS truly and permanently identifies as a women, even if she hasn't had all the surgery and hormone replacements, she's a she in my book.