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2019-01-17 at 6:43 PM UTC in ~Hang w/ Mal~
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2019-01-17 at 6:02 PM UTC in I abosrb the souls of dead posters
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2019-01-17 at 4:13 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING IV: The Flower of Death and The Crystal of Life Is there an objective force that we can measure that tells you how good a generator is, with 100 being the best machine possible, and 0 being a pile of rust?
No?
But some machines are better than others. Not different, but better.
You cannot objectively measure how "morally good" a generator is. That is exactly what I'm saying. We cannot objectively measure goodness or badness.
However, we can objectively measure electrical potential and efficiency. If your generator is generating the electrical potential you require at an efficient rate, it is an effective generator and definitely is not a pile of rust. And if an effective generator is what I need I might say that is good, but that doesn't mean it is objectively or inherently good. -
2019-01-17 at 3:51 PM UTC in Who still has their xmas tree up?Couldnt be bothered with it this past season..wasn't feeling very festive.
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2019-01-17 at 1:40 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING IV: The Flower of Death and The Crystal of Life Is there an objective force that we can measure that tells you how good a generator is, with 100 being the best machine possible, and 0 being a pile of rust?
No?
But some machines are better than others. Not different, but better.
an old machine is better at creating and maintaining jobs than a new one, so to a mechanic, old engines are better. -
2019-01-17 at 1:32 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe But do you believe there is an objective force we can measure to determine how much goodness or badness specific actions or behaviors have?
Is there an objective force that we can measure that tells you how good a generator is, with 100 being the best machine possible, and 0 being a pile of rust?
No?
But some machines are better than others. Not different, but better. -
2019-01-17 at 1:22 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe Ideas exists as ideas, not as objective properties of our reality. Something is good because I imagine it is good, not because there is some objective force that makes it good.
have you been a pedophile, you'd have known that just because you think, or imagine that something is good doesnt make it good.
its what the mob says that matter. not you. -
2019-01-17 at 1:18 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny But an instrument with a numeric display isn't electrical potential, it's a way of measuring electrical potential. We have no independent, direct, objective access to electrical potential, we need a story about how the reading on the face of a voltmeter is a measurement of an underlying reality. Likewise with morality, we don't have direct access to it but that doesn't mean it's a mere matter of opinion any more than electrical potential is.
bht the goodness or the badness are just the scales on the fave of your voltmeter.
human technology might measure a 5 volt as a 5 volt, but an aliens voltmeter might register our 5 volts as -30 gffhdusn. so to us, a 5 volt is a something positive, to them, its a something negative, despite beimg of having the same electric potential.
to you, a compass might only points north or south, but to us,
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2019-01-17 at 1:04 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2019-01-17 at 12:59 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by GGG Make turnips great again
Wrong. There's not much to say about this but I think it's worth the effort.
You don't wanna make it look better than what you're looking for someone to practice. If you want to see for yourself, then you can get names on the right and the best way to get a lower dose of your weight loss is to make sure you are the most important person in your life. You can send pictures and photos from your wedding day.
Get the fuck out. -
2019-01-17 at 12:48 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING IV: The Flower of Death and The Crystal of Life Does a generator objectively exist as such?
All a generator is is an idea and a bunch of atoms.
Does structured matter exist beyond just being matter?
Oh, I agree we can have ideas and make them a reality.
But do you believe there is an objective force we can measure to determine how much goodness or badness specific actions or behaviors have? -
2019-01-17 at 12:08 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2019-01-17 at 11:49 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING IV: The Flower of Death and The Crystal of Life Lights require lots of different quantum phenomena, like surface effect, to work.
That means that the universe is governed by invisible rules and effects that we can't see (as they have no material reality) and can't predict without recourse to mathematical probability.
The idea that the universe is objective is wrong, but I don't understand, are you saying ideas don't real or what?
Ideas exists as ideas, not as objective properties of our reality. Something is good because I imagine it is good, not because there is some objective force that makes it good. -
2019-01-17 at 11:45 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe Your light needs a specific voltage to function properly. Whether we refer to this force as 120 volts or 500 Ubik doesn't really matter. There is a force that objectively exists and we can all see that when your light turns on.
Lights require lots of different quantum phenomena, like surface effect, to work.
That means that the universe is governed by invisible rules and effects that we can't see (as they have no material reality) and can't predict without recourse to mathematical probability.
The idea that the universe is objective is wrong, but I don't understand, are you saying ideas don't real or what? -
2019-01-17 at 11:35 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatMake turnips great again
Originally posted by Obbe Incorrect. Your light needs a specific voltage to function properly. Whether we refer to this force as 120 volts or 500 Ubik doesn't really matter. There is a force that objectively exists and we can all see that when your light turns on. On the contrary, human life is only good if you imagine it is good. The exact same life could be imagined as either good or bad depending on the imagination of the person making that judgement, but there doesn't seem to be anything objective we can measure to tell us how good or bad that life actually is.
Wrong. There's not much to say about this but I think it's worth the effort.
You don't wanna make it look better than what you're looking for someone to practice. If you want to see for yourself, then you can get names on the right and the best way to get a lower dose of your weight loss is to make sure you are the most important person in your life. You can send pictures and photos from your wedding day. -
2019-01-17 at 11:31 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny But an instrument with a numeric display isn't electrical potential, it's a way of measuring electrical potential. We have no independent, direct, objective access to electrical potential, we need a story about how the reading on the face of a voltmeter is a measurement of an underlying reality. Likewise with morality, we don't have direct access to it but that doesn't mean it's a mere matter of opinion any more than electrical potential is.
Incorrect. Your light needs a specific voltage to function properly. Whether we refer to this force as 120 volts or 500 Ubik doesn't really matter. There is a force that objectively exists and we can all see that when your light turns on. On the contrary, human life is only good if you imagine it is good. The exact same life could be imagined as either good or bad depending on the imagination of the person making that judgement, but there doesn't seem to be anything objective we can measure to tell us how good or bad that life actually is. -
2019-01-17 at 11:13 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny On the contrary, they seem to measure goodness or badness in about the same way as the reading of a voltmeter measures voltage across a circuit. It's true you need some kind of justification that the measure actually reflects the thing measured, but you should at least see that if such a justification is compelling then we have reason to believe in an "objective" morality.
I'm not really sure what you mean by "referential". I think there some actions that are good or bad, and that saying so is more than a mere statement of opinion.
Electrical potential is electrical potential, whether we refer to it as a "volt" or anything else doesn't matter. There is actually a force that we are measuring, no matter what we call it.
Human life is only good if you imagine it is good. There is no measurent we can make that will tell us objectively how good it is. There is nothing to be measured. -
2019-01-17 at 7 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny On the contrary, they seem to measure goodness or badness in about the same way as the reading of a voltmeter measures voltage across a circuit. It's true you need some kind of justification that the measure actually reflects the thing measured, but you should at least see that if such a justification is compelling then we have reason to believe in an "objective" morality.
again.
theres no such thing as good, goodness or bad or badness.
good, or the ness of it are just the things that the mob found acceptable or favorable and bad, and the ness of it are just the things that the mob found to be unacceptable.
while 5 volts give an electrical push and pull of 5 volts in strength everywhere in the universe except in singularity, goodness and badness are measured differently between cultures and civilizations.
also, child brides and lolitas are good. very good. in some places. -
2019-01-17 at 6:02 AM UTC in Candyrein is my propertyYou really act like a jealous female, §m£ÂgØL..
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2019-01-17 at 5:59 AM UTC in Candyrein is my property
Originally posted by Fonaplats I messaged you because if I had to prove who was ignoring who it would be YOU.
You are a joke Fona.. you drunk af 9/10
You are not a good friend
I held your silly azz down on here in your absence
I kept your e- memory alive posting your pics from TC and everything
What did I get from that..
A candy is dead thread
You should be happy someone wants to treat me good.. not mad
I deserve happiness!