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2016-11-24 at 6:09 AM UTC in Critical thinking is a rare skill
Originally posted by greenplastic So you're problem with what I was saying was that it was too vague? I should have given more concrete examples, and then my point would have been valid, and not just an exercise in jerking myself off?
No, telling me about specific examples of people having poor critical thinking skills from fucking facebook of all places is exactly what you shouldn't do if you're trying to convince someone that "most people have poor critical thinking skills". I guess if that's really the thing you want to establish as a point of fact you should start with some criteria for having "good critical thinking skills" which as it stands means basically nothing and then go about showing how half of living humans don't possess this quality, probably with a large representative sample, which facebook is not.
The former task seems more difficult than the latter if you can barf some keywords into JSTOR and skim some abstracts.
If you wanted to say something like "reposting buzzfeed content does not constitute good critical thinking" I wouldn't have any problem with that, it seems like a pretty solid position although it does seem sorta trivial.It doesn't take a genius to realize that a good size of the population are morons who can't think for themselves.
"it doesn't take a genius to realize <thing I believe is correct>". Are you fucking kidding me man? I thought you said you were going to "raise some good points" or something.Then you try to bait me into doing the very thing that you accuse me of, in order to verify your claim after the fact. Tell me, how could I possibly answer that question now? If I say they are good, you're going to say you were vindicated, and if I say they're not so good, you're going to say that I'm an idiot for making the thread.
Well to be honest it seems obvious what your self appraisal is from your OP. The fact that you said people here (which you are) have better than typical critical thinking skills points to this. Also generally if you're going to say "Personal quality X is rare" is usually implies you know what possess X. Like if I say "most people have a poor understanding of the halting problem" this would generally be taken to mean I don't. If this assumption doesn't hold and you don't think you have the critical thinking skills most people lack then let me know.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2016-11-23 at 1:45 AM UTC in Critical thinking is a rare skillJerking yourself off over how everyone else has poor "critical thinking skills", or low intelligence, or god forbid for being sheeple is just another form the the same wankery. It's an easy excuse to dismiss popular opinions you don't like. What's amazing is it's a cop out that spans the political spectrum. Whether it's the democrats repeating loudly and often how Trump is popular among "uneducated white men" or conspiracy nutjobs begging for people to "just wake up" or the alt right's cherished pastime of circlejerking to cherry pickings of shitposts from the mentally ill of tumblr as if they represent an actual political position, everyone loves to demonize their opponents as weak minded or dumb without actually engaging with their positions.
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2016-11-23 at 12:34 AM UTC in Critical thinking is a rare skill
Originally posted by greenplastic Really, it seems so simple, and is probably very prevalent amongst the userbase here because most of us live alternate lifestyles, but the vast majority of people out there are completely unable to think critically about anything. And it's becoming more and more that way every day. People are now used to buzzfeed and facebook feeding them their opinions. No one even bothers to try to read unbiased news anymore, they just believe whatever the fuck they are told to. Literally.
So being able to look at something and have a pretty accurate gauge of whether it's bullshit or not is rare, and very valuable. People are so easily manipulated, you could use it to your advantage in a million different ways. It's just up to you to come up with them.
it's not so much critical thinking, I think it's more a case of intellectual laziness.
the real problem isn't that people aren't capable of thinking for themselves, it's that they have no desire to - there's no value attached to the process of learning or new knowledge; it's just seen as a stepping stone to fulfill more base desires.
modern society is both enforcing that mode of thinking and being warped by it. well-educated consumers are more difficult to predict and tend not to fall into generalised marketing campaigns, and are more likely to want outcomes that are not for saleThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
