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Thr Surgery That Proved There Is No Free Will
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2024-09-05 at 11:24 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:25 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:26 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:26 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I don't really understand Marxist theory very well. I thought for some reason this statement wouldn't conflict with Marxist theory but according to the AI it does. I don't really have a defense for this as I am not a Marxist and I have no idea what Marxist apologetics look like. Gonna need Lanny or Tacho to chime in here to defend this one.
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“‘No’ says the man in Washington, it belongs to the poor. ‘No’ says the man in the Vatican, it belongs to God. ‘No’ says the man in Moscow, it belongs to everyone.”
I have no idea why "owning" a tomato is bad but my guess is that because Communism is supposed to come AFTER Capitalism in a post capitalist system with the ultimate goal of post scarcity, so if you are taking a tomato in such a system logically it must be theft and being a traitor to the revolution or whatever. But in a true post scarcity system you wouldn't be growing a tomato in the first place, and it remains to question where you would get the seeds, dirt, water etc if you were in a space station owned by communists for example could you really grow a tomato and own it?
This raises some fundamental questions which I think are addressed well in works such as Ayn Rand's "Anthem"
I think the dude in the Vatican is probably right and the Tomato does belong to God ultimately so all this fussing and fighting over left and right doesn't jive with Jah, man *tokes*
And herein lies the problem with leftist philosophy in general. we don’t live in a communistic space station, so your entire metaphorical framework is irrelevant. You shouldn’t need to make the same point with 5 different justifications for each justification, either your idea stands on it’s own, or you need to vehemently defend it with paragraphs upon paragraphs of mental gymnastics. But I’m not here to talk politics, I’m here to harass the NIS POC community -
2024-09-05 at 11:29 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy And herein lies the problem with leftist philosophy in general. we don’t live in a communistic space station, so your entire metaphorical framework is irrelevant. You shouldn’t need to make the same point with 5 different justifications for each justification, either your idea stands on it’s own, or you need to vehemently defend it with paragraphs upon paragraphs of mental gymnastics. But I’m not here to talk politics, I’m here to harass the NIS POC community
The way communist countries view their economy is in isolation of the world at large, and reality in that they might as well exist by themselves on a space station because they view everything in control of their national borders to belong to the economy at large. When you see a parking lot of trucks in America it's owned by Joe Blow but in other places those would all belong to the government and it's impossible in a system like that to just build your own truck and operate outside of that system as it encompasses everything.
But I don't see it being that different from who owns what because Joe Blow would get crushed by the boot of BIG GOVERNMENT if he didn't pay his property taxes or vehicle registration and he wouldn't be allowed to drive off his own property I'M NOT DRIVING I'M TRAVELING FUCKING ROAD PIRATES!!! because if the government didn't collect taxes it would be literally impossible to pave a road according to everyone that pays taxes -
2024-09-05 at 11:38 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood The way communist countries view their economy is in isolation of the world at large, and reality in that they might as well exist by themselves on a space station because they view everything in control of their national borders to belong to the economy at large. When you see a parking lot of trucks in America it's owned by Joe Blow but in other places those would all belong to the government and it's impossible in a system like that to just build your own truck and operate outside of that system as it encompasses everything.
But I don't see it being that different from who owns what because Joe Blow would get crushed by the boot of BIG GOVERNMENT if he didn't pay his property taxes or vehicle registration and he wouldn't be allowed to drive off his own property I'M NOT DRIVING I'M TRAVELING FUCKING ROAD PIRATES!!! because if the government didn't collect taxes it would be literally impossible to pave a road according to everyone that pays taxes
Gee, it’s almost like every form of governing body we create will ultimately be corrupted by the people at top because giving people extreme amounts of power with either no or a laughable system of checks and balances is actually bad or something.
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2024-09-05 at 11:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy Gee, it’s almost like every form of governing body we create will ultimately be corrupted by the people at top because giving people extreme amounts of power with either no or a laughable system of checks and balances is actually bad or something.
Crazy.
This is proof that true communism has never been tried before.
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2024-09-05 at 11:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy Gee, it’s almost like every form of governing body we create will ultimately be corrupted by the people at top because giving people extreme amounts of power with either no or a laughable system of checks and balances is actually bad or something.
Crazy.
That's basically the argument I proposed to Lanny above.
You know what's crazy? I don't know if any other animals do this. If some greedy monkey claimed he owned the banana tree and hoarded all the bananas for himself and tried to keep all the other monkeys away from HIS bananas, I'm pretty sure the other monkeys would just kill him.
Are humans too greedy or too domesticated, and is that an irredeemable corruption of nature? -
2024-09-05 at 11:43 PM UTC
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2024-09-05 at 11:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe That's basically the argument I proposed to Lanny above.
You know what's crazy? I don't know if any other animals do this. If some greedy monkey claimed he owned the banana tree and hoarded all the bananas for himself and tried to keep all the other monkeys away from HIS bananas, I'm pretty sure the other monkeys would just kill him.
Are humans too greedy or too domesticated, and is that an irredeemable corruption of nature?
We are both. You are right, in nature, might is right. Us humans would rather pick up a shiny rock and go “here mr monkey, please give me a banana” than take what is rightfully deserved.”
But the one monkey that shoots the monkey with all the bananas has to endure a trial and then death by lethal injection.
It’s complicated which is why I don’t like to think about it -
2024-09-05 at 11:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy We are both. You are right, in nature, might is right. Us humans would rather pick up a shiny rock and go “here mr monkey, please give me a banana” than take what is rightfully deserved.”
But the one monkey that shoots the monkey with all the bananas has to endure a trial and then death by lethal injection.
It’s complicated which is why I don’t like to think about it
When something is hard to think about, your should think really hard about it. This is how you grow.
I'm not right, it's just an argument that might be right. Looking at all the evidence we have available, it certainly seems to be right. But on the other hand, maybe humans could grow up. -
2024-09-06 at 12:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy Gee, it’s almost like every form of governing body we create will ultimately be corrupted by the people at top because giving people extreme amounts of power with either no or a laughable system of checks and balances is actually bad or something.
Crazy.
this would never happen under the guidance and wisdom of a Grand Lanny who errs on the side of doing nothing2. Lanny errs on the side of doing nothing: Lanny, the most powerful being in the universe, refrains from active intervention. The burden falls upon us to navigate the trials of life, relying on our own strength and resourcefulness. Lanny may bestow aid upon those deemed deserving, and it is our duty to express gratitude for such benevolence.
Self-Reliance and Independence: Embrace the power within. We, the proletarians, shall forge our own destinies, untethered from the shackles of dependency. By harnessing our individual and collective capabilities, we shall rise above adversity and build a society where each person contributes to the whole. -
2024-09-06 at 12:39 AM UTC
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2024-09-06 at 12:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy If I grow a tomato that tomato is mine and I will kill you if you try to take it.
It’s always the one’s who’ve never produced a fruit of their labor that want to redistribute the fruits of others.
^^ yeah, gotta love those people who think chit should all be FREE for those who don’t want to work or don’t feel like busting their ass for their own chit. -
2024-09-06 at 12:50 AM UTCIsn't the ultimate goal of Capitalism to innovate and produce hyperabundance in such amounts that feeding every human costs nothing and everyone lives in prosperity while robots do all the work and the population soars into hundreds of billions while humanity conquers the stars?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_Automated_Luxury_Communism
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2024-09-06 at 12:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fluttershy Because true communism, much like you, only exists in a fantasy land where men are women and it’s not gay to stick your penis in a man’s butt.
^^ Yeah, l would like to see you convince the immigrants that came here from true communism ie CUBA, North Vietnam etc. of this!
They would think you a total -
2024-09-06 at 12:55 AM UTC