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World to hit temperature tipping point 10 years faster than forecast

  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker I deny it and have yet to be funded. Of course my denial is based on listening to this song for 50 plus years as they move the goal post every five. Which kind of makes it like the little boy who cried wolf, except in this case there never will be a real wolf.

    In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically used by the cause's leaders.
  2. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Obbe In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically used by the cause's leaders.

    At least you understand what you are.
  3. Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    So is this global kabal of scientists, working to prove obvious things that are easily proven, in league with the international kabal that organized the most elaborate election swindle in the history of the world?

    Wow that's so crazy that only the most naive and gullible people are privy to this information too.
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  4. Originally posted by Obbe In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically used by the cause's leaders.

    It's much simpler than that. We simply don't trust the credibility of your data. Period. End of story.
  5. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ It's much simpler than that. We simply don't trust the credibility of your data. Period. End of story.

    Who cares what you trust? The facts don't change just because you want to bury your head in the sand.
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  6. Originally posted by Obbe Who cares what you trust? The facts don't change just because you want to bury your head in the sand.

    Nothing you've stated can't be used on all you in reverse.
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  7. Nile bump
    I'm going to need to see the facts.
  8. "The facts". Whose facts?
  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    In May 2020, as the world was convulsed by the coronavirus pandemic and global infections topped 4 million, a strange video began appearing in the feeds of some Facebook users. “Climate alarm is reaching untold levels of exaggeration and hysteria,” said an unseen narrator, over a montage of environmental protests and clips of a tearful Greta Thunberg. “There is no doubt about it, climate change has become a cult,” it continued, to the kind of pounding beat you might hear on the soundtrack of a Hollywood blockbuster. “Carbon dioxide emissions have become the wages of sin.”

    The video’s reach was relatively small: according to Facebook data, it was viewed somewhere between 15,000 and 20,000 times. But over the following weeks more videos came, each one experimenting with slightly different scripts and visuals. All focused on the supposed irrationality and hypocrisy of climate campaigners, and the hardship they wanted to inflict upon society’s most impoverished communities. “Those who demand action on climate change continue to fly around in private jets from one virtue-signalling climate conference to the next,” stated one, against a backdrop of Leonardo DiCaprio and Prince Harry delivering speeches from lecterns. “Is this fair?” Another video took aim at the idea that countries should be transitioning towards “net zero” carbon dioxide emissions, calling it an “unnecessary and swingeing plan that hits the poor and costs the earth”. In total, between May and July, the advertiser spent less than £3,000 disseminating 10 videos. Collectively, they were viewed more than half a million times.

    At one stage, users hovering over the logo of that advertiser – a UK organisation called The Global Warming Policy Forum, or GWPF – were informed by Facebook that it was a “Science Site”. The GWPF is not a science website: it is the campaigning arm of a well-funded foundation accused by opponents of being one of Britain’s biggest sources of climate science denial.

    The videos being tested by the GWPF in the spring and summer of 2020 were part of a strategic pivot away from explicit climate crisis denialism, and towards something subtler – a move being pursued by similar campaigners across the world. Welcome to a new age of what the atmospheric scientist and environmental author Michael E Mann has labelled climate “inactivism”: an epic struggle to convince you not so much to doubt the reality of climate crisis, but rather to dampen your enthusiasm for any attempts at dealing with it.
  10. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Nile I'm going to need to see the facts.

    They've already been posted, you've already ignored them, remember you useless junkie?

    Originally posted by Narc Like I said I dont listen to any of it, I make my own mind up based on my own observations.

    Nobody cares what you, or spectral, or speedy parker think about this.
  11. Nile bump
  12. Originally posted by Obbe In May 2020, as the world was convulsed by the coronavirus pandemic and global infections topped 4 million, a strange video began appearing in the feeds of some Facebook users. “Climate alarm is reaching untold levels of exaggeration and hysteria,” said an unseen narrator, over a montage of environmental protests and clips of a tearful Greta Thunberg. “There is no doubt about it, climate change has become a cult,” it continued, to the kind of pounding beat you might hear on the soundtrack of a Hollywood blockbuster. “Carbon dioxide emissions have become the wages of sin.”

    The video’s reach was relatively small: according to Facebook data, it was viewed somewhere between 15,000 and 20,000 times. But over the following weeks more videos came, each one experimenting with slightly different scripts and visuals. All focused on the supposed irrationality and hypocrisy of climate campaigners, and the hardship they wanted to inflict upon society’s most impoverished communities. “Those who demand action on climate change continue to fly around in private jets from one virtue-signalling climate conference to the next,” stated one, against a backdrop of Leonardo DiCaprio and Prince Harry delivering speeches from lecterns. “Is this fair?” Another video took aim at the idea that countries should be transitioning towards “net zero” carbon dioxide emissions, calling it an “unnecessary and swingeing plan that hits the poor and costs the earth”. In total, between May and July, the advertiser spent less than £3,000 disseminating 10 videos. Collectively, they were viewed more than half a million times.

    At one stage, users hovering over the logo of that advertiser – a UK organisation called The Global Warming Policy Forum, or GWPF – were informed by Facebook that it was a “Science Site”. The GWPF is not a science website: it is the campaigning arm of a well-funded foundation accused by opponents of being one of Britain’s biggest sources of climate science denial.

    The videos being tested by the GWPF in the spring and summer of 2020 were part of a strategic pivot away from explicit climate crisis denialism, and towards something subtler – a move being pursued by similar campaigners across the world. Welcome to a new age of what the atmospheric scientist and environmental author Michael E Mann has labelled climate “inactivism”: an epic struggle to convince you not so much to doubt the reality of climate crisis, but rather to dampen your enthusiasm for any attempts at dealing with it.

    Did you know that real science is not established? Real science is never settled. By its very nature, it is a working of differing opinions. As soon as one side of the discussion is stifled, limited, banned, deleted, edited, harassed, or criminalized, it's no longer real science. That's the tell, if you want to know if you are dealing with actual fraudsters.

    "The truth doesn't mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."
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  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Did you know that real science is not established? Real science is never settled. By its very nature, it is a working of differing opinions. As soon as one side of the discussion is stifled, limited, banned, deleted, edited, harassed, or criminalized, it's no longer real science. That's the tell, if you want to know if you are dealing with actual fraudsters.

    "The truth doesn't mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

    Ask SpectraL how his computer works.

    "The science isn't settled."
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  14. lockedin Tuskegee Airman
    The author of this post has returned to nothingness
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  15. Originally posted by lockedin he has a demonstrably poor understanding of that too

    Not true. I have decades of know-how under my belt.
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  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Not true. I have decades of know-how under my belt.

    Real know-how is never under your belt.
  17. lockedin Tuskegee Airman
    The author of this post has returned to nothingness
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  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Look at what Exxon Mobil did in the 80s. They designed a ship that at the time was state of the art to measure pollution levels in the atmosphere at sea. They found that continued use of fossil fuels and the increase of use over the next decades would have a huge impact on our climate. They decided to burry the report and actively fund denial campaigns. All for short term gains.

    Lots of articles about this here is one https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
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  19. Nile bump
    It's snowing outside right now. Seems settled to me lol.

    It's cold ur wrong, get over it
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