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2021-08-13 at 1:57 AM UTCWOW ok I didn't know Vinny was a Lanny alt!
I'll give a full report with references in the morning.
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2021-08-13 at 2:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 PRESS RELEASES
AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19
JUN 11, 2021
CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.
The national AMA survey is the first to specifically collect data on practicing physicians’ COVID-19 vaccination rates. The survey was conducted June 3–8 and showed an increase of more than 20 percent for physicians who have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to a May 2021 Medscape poll.
“Practicing physicians across the country are leading by example, with an amazing uptake of the COVID-19 vaccines,” said AMA President Susan R. Bailey, MD. “Physicians and clinicians are uniquely positioned to listen to and validate patient concerns, and one of the most powerful anecdotes a physician can offer is that they themselves have been vaccinated. You can take it from your doctor: the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. With COVID-19 vaccines readily available and approved for all people 12 years old and up, we urge you to get vaccinated—take the single most important step you can to protect yourself, your family, and end the COVID-19 pandemic.”
The American Medical Association. That's funny. ZERO credibility.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-08-13 at 2:26 AM UTCIn 2021, the AMA published a plan to dismantle "structural racism" which would encourage "explicit conversations about power, racism, gender and class oppression, forms of discrimination and exclusion", and utilize critical race theory.[88][89] The plan asserts that people of different backgrounds should not be treated the same, and commits to "dismantle white supremacy", stating: "intergenerational wealth has mainly benefited and exists for white families".[89]
In an AMA podcast in 2021, the host "questioned whether structural racism exists", and tweeted "No physician is racist". This led to the resignation of the deputy editor of JAMA, and its editor being suspended.[88]The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-08-13 at 3:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ In 2021, the AMA published a plan to dismantle "structural racism" which would encourage "explicit conversations about power, racism, gender and class oppression, forms of discrimination and exclusion", and utilize critical race theory.[88][89] The plan asserts that people of different backgrounds should not be treated the same, and commits to "dismantle white supremacy", stating: "intergenerational wealth has mainly benefited and exists for white families".[89]
In an AMA podcast in 2021, the host "questioned whether structural racism exists", and tweeted "No physician is racist". This led to the resignation of the deputy editor of JAMA, and its editor being suspended.[88]
no AI then,
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2021-08-13 at 4:04 AM UTCI have a couple private doctors I see and they are totally against COVID
In fact my fav doc I see literally told me that he didn’t wear a mask on purpose right when the pandemic started and he literally got in on purpose to see how bad it was and to get the antibodies and to see how bad it was so that she had an idea of how to protect his children from it
He literally said he got a slight headache and that was literally it, same as his wife and his kids had zero symptoms
He refused to get the vaccine because he hypothesized that the antibodies are better than the experimental scary science thing “vaccine” which should just be called medication not vaccine
My point is find your own doctors you can trust because these mainstream doctors and doctors that watch mass media are totally brainwashed.. my docs watch the least amount of tv they can and get most of their info from certified clinical studies and trials which is how it should be
But what do my m.d. doctors know, I mean they only spent years training to be come doctors with I’m sure plenty of microbiology and microviology training
But ur right just listen to what fauchi says I’m sure that’ll keep us safe , it’s worked wonders so far for those whole follow the states directions and took the vaccine
I mean who cares if u can spread it to others and possibly kill them as long as you won’t get sick except maybe a tiny bit if I catch it again
What a fucking flawless plan fsuchi and Biden
Such a bulletproof plan
NOT!!!
This whole thing is a fucking joke to them and as long as they are alive nothing else matters to them and it’s pretty fuckin pathetic and sad
How anyone can be glad to agree with them is beyond me and those people, *cough* stl1. Just to name one but there are quite a few people ... fucking sadThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-08-13 at 4:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by AngryOnion Which one?
I have posted tons of papers in the last few days.
This one:
Originally posted by AngryOnion Association of Myocarditis With BNT162b2 Messenger RNA COVID-19 Vaccine in a Case Series of Children.
Question What are the findings on cardiac imaging in children with myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination?
Findings In this case series of 15 children who were hospitalized with myocarditis after receipt of the BNT162b2 messenger RNA COVID-19 vaccine for 1 to 5 days, boys were most often affected after the second vaccine dose, 3 patients had ventricular systolic dysfunction, and 12 patients had late gadolinium enhancement on cardiac magnetic resonance imaging. There was no mortality, and all but 1 patient had normal echocardiogram results on follow-up 1 to 13 days after discharge.
Meaning COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis may have a benign short-term course in children; however, the long-term risks remain unknown
Full story here.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2783052?guestAccessKey=76e27816-102d-48c2-924b-53c21e5a7b53&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=081021
Some of the issues are pointed out here:
Originally posted by Lanny There is no attempt to identify causation in the paper you linked. It's sorta assumed (which is pretty questionable) based on these two papers which are cited:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2781601
https://www.regenhealthsolutions.info/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Symptomatic-Acute-Myocarditis-in-Seven-Adolescents.pdf
Here's some quotes from them:
^ This seems to be the only reason anyone is even asking this question in the first place as the incidence rate is so low that it wouldn't otherwise even warrant investigation. So scary "experimental gene therapy"'s greatest indictment here is that maybe it poses the same risk another widely administered vaccine with decades of history of use in human children.
In light of this, what do you honestly think the policy implications of this study should be?
I guess the thing that’s aggravating here is you just posted yet another paper but two out of two times I’ve bothered to interact with the things you’ve posted it’s proven to be a waste of time. The first one was a shady news outlet claiming to be reporting on some report out of Israel that wasn’t identified in any verifiable way and I couldn’t find in like an hour of searching. Then there’s this one where the article you linked isn’t saying what you said it says. Like I’m open to looking at evidence that challenges my ideas here but it’s a waste of my time if you’re not going to be even slightly critical of what constitutes evidence. -
2021-08-13 at 11:36 AM UTCThis is just a secret info war designed to sort you better
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2021-08-13 at 4:47 PM UTCMake 'em
All
Get
A shot
The Wall Street Journal.
Job Postings Requiring Vaccination Jump in Past Month
Eric Morath
Vaccination is increasingly a requirement to be hired, as employers ranging from accounting and software firms to schools and restaurants are asking applicants to be inoculated against Covid-19.
The share of job postings stating that a new hire must be vaccinated have nearly doubled in the past month, according to the job search site Indeed. The total number remains low, roughly 1,200 postings requiring a vaccination per million in the first week of August. But that is well up from about 600 in early July, and about 50 per million job postings in early February.
Many of the postings don’t explicitly name Covid-19 as the vaccine required for employment, said Indeed economist AnnElizabeth Konkel, who wrote the report, but broader context of the job descriptions suggested most employers were referring to the coronavirus vaccine, as opposed to other shots. Early this year, before Covid-19 vaccines were widely available in the U.S., very few job postings outside of healthcare positions indicated a vaccination requirement, she said.
“While the number of postings requiring a vaccine is still low, it’s a trend that’s really taking off,” Ms. Konkel said. “I think a growing number of employers are trying to keep workers safe and do not want to shut down again this winter....They see vaccines as the way out of this pandemic.”
The increased number of job postings requiring vaccination comes at a time when the number of coronavirus cases is surging because of the fast-spreading Delta variant. Employers ranging form the federal government and state of California to McDonald’s Corp. and Walt Disney Co. are saying that at least some of their workers must soon be vaccinated against Covid-19 to report to worksites, or in some cases face frequent testing or other requirements.
Consumer sentiment in the U.S. soured early this month as Americans grew more worried about the spread of the Delta variant of the Covid-19 virus, according to a University of Michigan survey released Friday.
The university’s index of consumer sentiment fell sharply to 70.2 in the first half of August, down from 81.2 in July. Consumers reasoned that the economy’s performance would weaken in coming months, said Richard Curtin, the survey’s chief economist, adding, “the extraordinary surge in negative economic assessments also reflects an emotional response, mainly from dashed hopes that the pandemic would soon end.”
The decline was widespread across income, age, and education subgroups and across regions, and it covered all aspects of the economy, including personal finances, inflation and unemployment, the university said in a statement.
The share of job postings, per million, in the education sector that required a vaccination rose to 2,166 in July from 33 in February, according to Indeed. In food service, the rate per million rose to 814 in July from 43 in February. The rate per million for accounting rose to 1,184 from 39, and in software development the rate increased to 438 from four.
The postings are advertisements intended to attract applicants and don’t necessarily reflect the company’s policy toward existing workers. Some postings simply state “vaccine required,” while others give more specific details or offer alternatives, such as frequent testing and mask wearing.
Ms. Konkel said there is no evidence in Indeed data that job searchers are looking specifically for positions that require or don’t require vaccinations. She said some job postings mention that the existing staff have been vaccinated or that the company is offering a small bonus to workers willing to be vaccinated.
Participation in the labor force fell during the pandemic, when some would-be job seekers had concerns about interacting with the public or had heightened family-care responsibilities, and others chose to retire. But Jonathan Meer, a labor economist at Texas A&M University, said he doesn’t think vaccine requirements will have a significant impact on the number of adults willing to take jobs.
There were more than 10 million unfilled jobs at the end of June, a record on data back to 2000, and more than the number of unemployed job seekers, according to the Labor Department. And many employers say they can’t find enough workers to fill positions.
“The labor market is tight enough that there will likely be employers who are willing to overlook vaccination status,” he said.
Nearly 30% of adults in the U.S. haven't received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The shots are widely available at no cost to recipients. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 14% of respondents to a July survey said they would “definitely not” be vaccinated against Covid-19.
Steven Jenkins, 37 years old, is among those who say they won’t be vaccinated. The Fort Collins, Colo., resident said he was fired two months ago from a security job he recently started after he refused to wear a mask and subsequently engaged in an argument over the matter with his boss.
Mr. Jenkins, who remains unemployed, said he won’t take a job that requires him to be vaccinated or wear a mask. He said he has natural immunity from the virus because he’s recovered from a Covid-19 infection and that it is his right to not be vaccinated over concerns about the shot’s long-term effects.
“The job market doesn’t look too good for me because I won’t wear a mask, and more companies here in Colorado are requiring it,” he said. “We live in a sissy culture. Do you get wet if I don’t have an umbrella? Why do you care if I’m not vaccinated, if you are?”
Doctors and public-health officials have said unvaccinated people are far more likely to contract Covid-19 and face more severe outcomes than those who are vaccinated, but given the highly contagious nature of the Delta variant, even some fully vaccinated people exposed to the virus are at risk of breakthrough infections.
Many large employers are requiring vaccines for current employees.
McDonald’s Corp. said Wednesday that all of the company’s U.S. corporate employees, but not restaurant workers, must be fully vaccinated by Sept. 27. “A resurgence of infections caused by Covid-19 variants has many of us uneasy,” McDonald’s Global Chief People Officer Heidi Capozzi said in the message to U.S. employees. “We’ve heard from many of you that you would feel more comfortable returning to the office if you had more certainty your colleagues were vaccinated.”
United Airlines and Tyson Foods Inc. are among the companies requiring all employees to be vaccinated. Others, such as Walmart Inc., have said white-collar workers must be vaccinated. Last month President Biden said federal workers, including those in the military, would be required to receive a vaccine or face testing.
Labor unions are somewhat split on vaccine requirements. The union that represents United’s pilots and the largest federal workers union have said such a policy should be negotiated in collective bargaining, but the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA and American Federation of Teachers are encouraging members to get vaccinated.
Other employers such as General Electric Co., Caterpillar Inc. and Snap-on Inc. have said they won’t require workers to get shots. U.S. employers can require that all workers physically present in a workplace be vaccinated against Covid-19, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission said earlier this year.
Michael Farren, an economist at George Mason University’s right-leaning Mercatus Center, said if workers see their refusal to become vaccinated as a threat to their career, they could change their views. He added that vaccine verification systems are weak, and that those who refuse to take the shot may lie or forge documentation to remain employed.
“Some employers will require vaccines to limit the potential for production disruptions, or to cater to customers’ desires,” he said. “In the same way, some employers will not require vaccines as a way of indulging their own social preferences, or to cater to customers with those social preferences.” -
2021-08-13 at 6 PM UTCMaking it
A shame that foreigners like Schwarzenegger and Vindman are the ones who
Go and remind us all what
A true patriot is
The Week
Arnold Schwarzenegger asks if Americans are 'really this selfish and angry' after his rant against anti-maskers
Brendan Morrow
Arnold Schwarzenegger is continuing to call out those "schmucks" refusing to wear a mask or get vaccinated against COVID-19.
The former Republican governor of California earlier this week blasted anyone who claims that wearing a mask infringes upon their freedom, telling them "screw your freedom" and that "you're a schmuck for not wearing a mask." He expanded on that in an essay for The Atlantic on Friday, saying he stands by his rant, while acknowledging it may have been "a little much."
Schwarzenegger goes on to write, though, that some responses he received to his rant "really worried me," as "many people told me that the Constitution gives them rights, but not responsibilities," and they apparently "feel no duty to protect their fellow citizens." In response to this sentiment, he calls on Americans to reflect on the fact that "our country began with a willingness to make personal sacrifices for the collective good."
"When I look at the response to this pandemic, I really worry about the future of our country," he also writes. "We have lost more than 600,000 Americans to COVID-19. Are we really this selfish and angry? Are we this partisan?"
Schwarzenegger in the essay also writes that it "doesn't bother me" that some have accused him of being a RINO, or a Republican In Name Only, because of his stance.
"Honestly, rhinos are beautiful, powerful animals," he writes, "so I take that as a compliment." -
2021-08-13 at 7:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny This one:
Some of the issues are pointed out here:
I guess the thing that’s aggravating here is you just posted yet another paper but two out of two times I’ve bothered to interact with the things you’ve posted it’s proven to be a waste of time. The first one was a shady news outlet claiming to be reporting on some report out of Israel that wasn’t identified in any verifiable way and I couldn’t find in like an hour of searching. Then there’s this one where the article you linked isn’t saying what you said it says. Like I’m open to looking at evidence that challenges my ideas here but it’s a waste of my time if you’re not going to be even slightly critical of what constitutes evidence.
Sorry for wasting your time.
I'm frustrated as well and post shit that I haven't fully reviewed.
I'm frustrated I can't go to my nephews birthday party because every one is scared I might get them sick. I don't have leprosy for fucks sake.
This whole thing is going to end badly for everyone.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-08-13 at 7:20 PM UTCStick it and join the cool crowd.
Remain unstuck and remain isolated and shunned. -
2021-08-13 at 8:49 PM UTC
kek, called it
that said, what is even in the boosters? is it the same as the original shot, or are they completely reformulated to induce the spike proteins carried by the new variants? because if it's the former, boosters are going to stop working very quickly -
2021-08-13 at 9:04 PM UTCIts a j3w hoax.
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2021-08-13 at 9:31 PM UTCMass population control, disguised as a pandemic. I say, if they're stupid enough to fall for it, good riddance. Cleans up the gene pool of low IQ morons.
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2021-08-13 at 11:40 PM UTC
What do we do to these unvaccinated people? -
2021-08-13 at 11:41 PM UTClast time black people let the government stick needles in them they all got syphilis
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2021-08-14 at 12:15 AM UTC
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2021-08-14 at 3:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra
kek, called it
that said, what is even in the boosters? is it the same as the original shot, or are they completely reformulated to induce the spike proteins carried by the new variants? because if it's the former, boosters are going to stop working very quickly
does it matter ?
if you have agreed to the first and second shot the 3rd will only reinforce your subservientship. -
2021-08-14 at 11:39 AM UTCWhat they do is give you sugar pill shots until at some point they figure you're good to go. Could be any shot. They'll probably wait until you're a half dozen shots in before they give you the real one to knock you off.
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2021-08-14 at 1:24 PM UTCMaking
Anti-vaxxers
Go
And pay for their own medical expenses
Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills, employer mandates
Ken Alltucker, USA TODAY
Communities with high rates of unvaccinated residents have been hit especially hard by the Delta variant, the unvaccinated representing the overwhelming majority of hospitalized patients.
People who choose not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus face greater odds of getting seriously ill and hospitalized – a decision that could risk not just their health, but their finances as employers mandate vaccination and insurance companies look at ways to pass on the costs of treatment.
More than 90% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. And because 41% of eligible Americans have not yet been fully immunized against the virus, some are pushing a new tactic – making the unvaccinated pay a larger share of their medical bills.
Advocates of the pocketbook approach say tens of millions of Americans who refuse vaccination make it riskier for everyone else, including kids who are not old enough to get vaccinated and have filled hospitals in some states. Taxpayers are on the hook for $178 billion in federal funds allocated to hospitals and health-care providers. Insurance premiums could rise across the board.
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"There's a very clear line we can draw between (refusing) vaccination and getting COVID severe enough to put you in the hospital," said Jonathan Meer, an economics professor at Texas A&M University.
"The unvaccinated are essentially asking for a handout, a subsidy for their stance, and that’s cheap talk. Standing up for your beliefs means being willing to take the consequences of them," he said.
Some health insurers already are sharing the financial pain with those sick enough to be hospitalized.
Mayor Bill de Blasio announced last week that proof of coronavirus vaccination will be required to attend indoor restaurants, gyms, and entertainment venues. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo also announced a vaccination mandate for state employees and patient-facing health care workers at state hospitals, with an option to get weekly testing. According to CDC data, New York City is now considered a "high" or "substantial" COVID transmission area.
A Kaiser Family Foundation survey last November found that 88% of people had health insurance plans that shielded COVID-19 patients from copayments, coinsurance or annual deductibles that might require families to spend $2,800 or more before coverage kicks in.
Now that vaccines are free and available to all Americans 12 and older, insurers have scaled back those waivers.
Insurers eliminated pandemic perk
Major insurers such as Aetna, Anthem Blue Cross and UnitedHealth Group discontinued fee waivers as vaccines became widely available, as first reported by Kaiser Health News. Humana still covers out-of-pocket costs for older adults on its Medicare plan, but the insurer does not shield out-of-pocket costs for those covered by employer-sponsored plans.
Experts say patients hospitalized with COVID-19 could face significant bills as a result –and those patients are mainly the unvaccinated. Immunized people rarely are hospitalized with breakthrough infections, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of state and federal data.
"Now you probably will have to pay a lot of money if you get hospitalized," said Cynthia Cox, a vice president and director for the Kaiser Family Foundation's program on the Affordable Care Act. "That’s a very direct cost to people because of their lack of vaccination."
Still, some doubt the prospect of high medical bills will persuade many vaccine resisters to get immunized.
"The person who is holding out against the vaccine doesn’t have the same risk-benefit calculation as someone who gets the vaccine," said Erin Fuse Brown, director of the Center for Law, Health & Society at Georgia State College of Law. "They think the chances they are seriously going to be affected by COVID are pretty small to begin with."
Insurance surcharges for the unvaccinated?
Under the Affordable Care Act, health insurers that pay the bulk of hospital bills are not allowed to charge higher premiums for people who are sick or have a chronic health condition.
But insurers are allowed to charge more for smokers and tobacco users. Employers routinely offer premium discounts or incentives for nonsmokers or for those who meet wellness goals such as undergoing a physical exam.
"People have looked at those wellness plans as being a way insurers may be able to either reward people for getting vaccinated or penalize people for not getting vaccinated," Cox said.
So far, employers have been slow to offer incentives to encourage workers to get vaccinated. Of more than 300 employers surveyed by Mercer in July and August, only 10% said they offered a financial incentive.
It may take time for companies to use those wellness plans to push employees to get vaccinated, Cox said.
Companies turn to 'no jab, no job' policies
The unvaccinated are facing increased pressure from employers to get immunized or submit to frequent testing.
Wednesday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom said all California teachers and school employees must be vaccinated or undergo regular testing. California, New York City and Washington, D.C., have announced that public employees must get vaccinated, or they must wear masks and submit to weekly testing.
Several private employers, including Tyson Foods and United Airlines, have announced vaccine mandates. The National Football League has pressured players to get vaccinated, saying teams will be forced to forfeit games and paychecks in the event of an outbreak among unvaccinated players.
Tyson Foods requires all of its U.S. employees to get vaccinated against COVID-19.© Melissa Melvin, AP Tyson Foods team members receive COVID-19 vaccines Feb. 2 from health officials in Wilkesboro, N.C. Tyson Foods requires all of its U.S. employees to get vaccinated against COVID-19.
Nearly 14% of U.S. employers now require staff to be vaccinated in order to work at a company site, Mercer said. That's a dramatic shift from May, when fewer than 1% were mandating vaccinations, and only 8% said they would consider it.
Even more employers will likely mandate vaccinations once the Food and Drug Administration moves beyond emergency use authorization to full approval and licensing of the vaccines, said Dr. Art Caplan, head of the division of medical ethics at NYU Grossman School of Medicine.
The "no jab, no job" policy likely will convince more employees to get immunized rather than lose income or face the prospect of expensive medical bills, Caplan said.
"A lot of people who are hesitant, or resisters, say, 'You can’t make me vaccinate,'" Caplan said. "The problem is, they live in a very capitalistic society which says, 'I don’t have to hire you if you don’t do what I want for safety.'"
Those who choose tests over vaccines could pay, too
Beyond the prospect of medical bills and job loss, the unvaccinated might face more scrutiny when applying for life or disability insurance. People who apply for such coverage often need to undergo physical exams or answer detailed questions about their health, including vaccination status, Caplan said.
"That’s where you can expect to see penalties for non-vaccinators," Caplan said.
Fuse Brown said those who choose to meet employer mandates by getting tested periodically may see big bills, too.
Health insurance companies typically pay for coronavirus tests to diagnose or treat somebody if they have symptoms or had contact with an infected person. However, the federal Families First Coronavirus Response Act does not require insurers to pay for tests used to monitor workplace safety or for public health surveillance, said Kristine Grow, a spokeswoman for America's Health Insurance Plans, which represents commercial health insurers.
Fuse Brown said the cost of weekly tests "could add up fast" if an employer passes the bill to workers who choose not to vaccinate.
"Financially," Fuse Brown said, "that’s a bigger immediate cost that I think could change minds."
IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME ! ! !
Make the
Assholes have to
Go
And dig into their wallets for their obstinance and selfishness
