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2021-01-26 at 4:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny nope. your confused about how much power (in watt) 'some intensive software' uses.
It's not the power the software is using...it's the power the hardware is using... the software is merely making the hardware "work"so you finally admit you doesnt know what a 90% load on a psu looks like.
No
Your English comprehension is failing you again...That's not what I said at all... -
2021-01-26 at 11:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson
It's not the power the software is using…it's the power the hardware is using… the software is merely making the hardware "work"
(tucker carlsons ooooooo) oooooooo, so you mean bitcoin mining isnt an energy intensive activity, its the hardware that mines bitcoins that is power hungry.No
Your English comprehension is failing you again…That's not what I said at all…
so i'll ask again : how does one load ones cpu with precisely 90% load.
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2021-01-27 at 1:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny (tucker carlsons ooooooo) oooooooo, so you mean bitcoin mining isnt an energy intensive activity, its the hardware that mines bitcoins that is power hungry.
so i'll ask again : how does one load ones cpu with precisely 90% load.
please answer empirically.
you can do a rough estimate based on your CPU/GPU's settings; ie. you can over/underclock the voltage and run a program that'll spin them at max- or near-max load. you can probably use a multimeter to test actual PSU load if you have one that's good enough to not melt at 500+W
more math than I care to do for something like this though -
2021-01-27 at 1:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny (tucker carlsons ooooooo) oooooooo, so you mean bitcoin mining isnt an energy intensive activity, its the hardware that mines bitcoins that is power hungry.
so i'll ask again : how does one load ones cpu with precisely 90% load.
please answer empirically.
I don't think you know what empirically means
(by means of observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.)
But sure.
Logically would be:
You check the specs of the power supply and which each rail is capable of handling (watts or amps is find just convert as necessary).
Then check the specs of your hardware...cpu for example might have a max power requirements of 65W, Graphics card 200w etc etc, do the math as I said about 3 pages ago.
empirically would be:
Being familiar with your equipment and knowing what a near full load is from your own observations and experience. -
2021-01-27 at 1:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I don't think you know what empirically means
(by means of observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.)
nope. its you who doesnt understamd what it means. refer back to post #7.But sure.
Logically would be:
You check the specs of the power supply and which each rail is capable of handling (watts or amps is find just convert as necessary).
Then check the specs of your hardware…cpu for example might have a max power requirements of 65W, Graphics card 200w etc etc, do the math as I said about 3 pages ago.
empirically would be:
Being familiar with your equipment and knowing what a near full load is from your own observations and experience.
yea, none of this contradicks with my claim that you dont know what a 90% load on a 600W psu looks like.
because you cant describe what a computer doing 540W of work looks like. you have no idea. -
2021-01-27 at 1:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you can do a rough estimate based on your CPU/GPU's settings; ie. you can over/underclock the voltage and run a program that'll spin them at max- or near-max load. you can probably use a multimeter to test actual PSU load if you have one that's good enough to not melt at 500+W
more math than I care to do for something like this though
i know.
ive pondering about this problem during my younger days when i just discover computers. how does loads a specific load even;y onto a psu.
specifically how to load all wires with X amount of load. -
2021-01-27 at 1:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny nope. its you who doesnt understamd what it means. refer back to post #7.
yea, none of this contradicks with my claim that you dont know what a 90% load on a 600W psu looks like.
because you cant describe what a computer doing 540W of work looks like. you have no idea.
You don't need to describe what it looks like...you just need to do the math...your question of 'what it looks like' is irrelevant.
but yes...you could take a photo of the PC when it's at 90% load and say "this is what it looks like"..wouldn't do you much good though.
It's like saying what does an upset stomach look like and posting a pic of a dude. -
2021-01-27 at 1:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny i know.
ive pondering about this problem during my younger days when i just discover computers. how does loads a specific load even;y onto a psu.
specifically how to load all wires with X amount of load.
wtf...doesn't matter what amount of load is on the wires...the wires are already capable of holding more of a load than the PSU is capable of (per electrical regulations).
Again...you simply do the research as to the power requirements of each piece of hardware and which rail they are going to be using...then distributing the load accordingly.
Stick to your abacus Asian. -
2021-01-27 at 2:05 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson
You don't need to describe what it looks like…you just need to do the math…your question of 'what it looks like' is irrelevant.
see. i said empirically, and you keep telling me to do the meth.but yes…you could take a photo of the PC when it's at 90% load and say "this is what it looks like"..wouldn't do you much good though.
It's like saying what does an upset stomach look like and posting a pic of a dude.
kenneth pinyan definitely had a very upset-ed stomach. -
2021-01-27 at 2:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson wtf…doesn't matter what amount of load is on the wires…the wires are already capable of holding more of a load than the PSU is capable of (per electrical regulations).
Again…you simply do the research as to the power requirements of each piece of hardware and which rail they are going to be using…then distributing the load accordingly.
Stick to your abacus Asian.
no, not really. modern psu have multiple electronic transformers (power switches) for different rails. just because you load a 12v rail with 90% load doesnt mean the psu is being loaded to 90% of its capacity. -
2021-01-27 at 2:10 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:12 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:13 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no, not really. modern psu have multiple electronic transformers (power switches) for different rails. just because you load a 12v rail with 90% load doesnt mean the psu is being loaded to 90% of its capacity.
Did you miss the part where I said you distribute the load over each rail? -
2021-01-27 at 2:14 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:16 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson You can still do the mAth and show it empirically by taking a photo of the PC (after you've done the math). The observer of the photo wont have awareness of the math you did.
and yet im the one who doesnt understand what empirical means.
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I don't think you know what empirically means
(by means of observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.)
im pretty sure mathing something is theoretical. -
2021-01-27 at 2:20 PM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 2:20 PM UTCincorrect yet again...
