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Using the Philospher's stone to make Gold

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    There is a book on this at alchemy.ws

    The hardest part is getting a hot enough furnace to transform the gold.

    Questions welcomed.

    "Ask and ye shall receive"
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    it's a metaphor for self-improvement through esotericism
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    Ghost Black Hole
    you can use gold instead of mercury for the al/hg reduction used to make amphetamines

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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    lolwut

    why are those parts pixellated
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    Meikai African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra lolwut

    why are those parts pixellated

    It's like you've never read a hentai doujin before.
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    Meikai African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra it's a metaphor for self-improvement through esotericism

    I don't think that's purely the case, alchemists were manifestly performing actual chemical experiments even if those experiments were far from rigorous by modern standards and more akin to banging rocks together. If it's a metaphor, it's probably one they thought was true in both a physical and metaphysical/metaphorical sense.

    And of course, they have since been theoretically vindicated by our ability to actually transmute elements in the modern era. I think it might actually be more realistic to transmute lead to gold than for human beings to achieve a metaphysical golden quality.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    I believe that it was originally a metaphor for ascension beyond the purely physical, but that some people were more interested in the physical than the metaphysical and chose to interpret it as such.

    We can't transmute lead to gold; they're discrete elements.

    Originally posted by Meikai I think it might actually be more realistic to transmute lead to gold than for human beings to achieve a metaphysical golden quality.

    yeah, probably.
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    Meikai African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra We can't transmute lead to gold; they're discrete elements.

    I'm not a fancy book learning type, but I feel pretty safe in saying you can. Just not in substantial quantities like alchemists envisioned. Literally every element to ever exist was transmuted either from hydrogen by natural processes or artificially by humans. Apparently lead to gold transmutation has been done already by way of bismuth? Too lazy to look further into it, but yeah. Entirely theoretically possible with our current understanding of physics, and potentially already been done.

    Maybe metaphysical gold can only be transmuted in equal measure - mere atoms of gold at an immense cost.
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    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra lolwut

    why are those parts pixellated

    sometimes they have to do that because there are identifying things on the glassware like university of scottsdale arizona or a company name which would bring a lot of unwanted attention if law enforcement got cute and wanted to back track whoever published these clandestine photographs.
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    Sophie Pedophile Tech Support
    Originally posted by Meikai I'm not a fancy book learning type, but I feel pretty safe in saying you can. Just not in substantial quantities like alchemists envisioned. Literally every element to ever exist was transmuted either from hydrogen by natural processes or artificially by humans. Apparently lead to gold transmutation has been done already by way of bismuth? Too lazy to look further into it, but yeah. Entirely theoretically possible with our current understanding of physics, and potentially already been done.

    Maybe metaphysical gold can only be transmuted in equal measure - mere atoms of gold at an immense cost.

    Yee, i don't remember the exact element either but it was some heavy metal like molybdenum. IIRC they used a particle accelerator to forcefully transmute the metal into gold.
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    Originally posted by Meikai I'm not a fancy book learning type, but I feel pretty safe in saying you can. Just not in substantial quantities like alchemists envisioned. Literally every element to ever exist was transmuted either from hydrogen by natural processes or artificially by humans. Apparently lead to gold transmutation has been done already by way of bismuth? Too lazy to look further into it, but yeah. Entirely theoretically possible with our current understanding of physics, and potentially already been done.

    Maybe metaphysical gold can only be transmuted in equal measure - mere atoms of gold at an immense cost.

    Appears you are talking about Glenn Seaborg. He made gold from bismuth. It may be the best metal for the operation.Further research suggest this is correct!!! Bismuth is like lead but much less toxic..think pepto bismal. In the medieval times it was called "silver in process" meaning the earth would soon make it into silver
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    Originally posted by aldra I believe that it was originally a metaphor for ascension beyond the purely physical, but that some people were more interested in the physical than the metaphysical and chose to interpret it as such.

    We can't transmute lead to gold; they're discrete elements.



    yeah, probably.

    Such transmutation is possible in particle accelerators or nuclear reactors, although the production cost is currently many times the market price of gold.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesis_of_precious_metals
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    Originally posted by CutterLegendaryNinja Such transmutation is possible in particle accelerators or nuclear reactors, although the production cost is currently many times the market price of gold.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesis_of_precious_metals

    or you can say golds are undervalued.
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Funny how the goose never had a problem with it.
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    Robert Mugabe African Astronaut
    Read up on John Dee and his side kick who specialized in trying to source it. He failed in his endeavours and died.

    /THE END.
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    As soon as people can make gold, gold will be worthless.
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    Zanick victim of incest [my p.a. supernal goa]
    as a philosophical statue, i have the requisite stone & the inclination to use it

    because of my ontological skepticism, however, i've eaten all the gold

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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    If water could be used as gas, water would be $4/gallon.
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    Robert Mugabe African Astronaut
    Originally posted by -SpectraL If water could be used as gas, water would be $4/gallon.

    Not for unleaded water.
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Robert Mugabe Not for unleaded water.

    If you could fuel your car on air, the air would become billable.
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