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AGAIN, BLM and Anti-fa are not organizations, and do not have a singular message or group

  1. #61
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Nil No I would obviously be apart if a transnational jedi conspiracy. Yes thats the reasonable take.

    Your little what if story does nothing to refute the evidence that BLM and ATIFA are funded by Soros.
  2. #62
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    As one peaceful protester noted, “Spontaneous riots broke out in 38 cities in US with ‘spontaneously’ identical shirts, masks, signs and chants.” Public officials in Minneapolis reported “an estimated 3/4 of those arrested are not from here.”
  3. #63
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
  4. #64
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    BLM’s major financial supporters include:

    Airbnb – $500,000 to BLM and the NAACP
    Anastasia Beverly Hills fashions – $1 million pledged, $100,000 donated so far to groups including BLM
    Bad Robot Productions – film studio involved in Star Trek, Star Wars, and Mission Impossible, $10 million pledged to “anti-racist” groups. BLM among the first recipients
    BTS, a Korean pop group – $1 million, matching donations from fans
    Cisco, electronics giant – $5 million to groups including BLM and its own Fighting Racism and Discrimination fund
    DECIEM cosmetics – $100,000 to NAACP and BLM
    Democracy Alliance – another Soros-linked group, added BLM to its annual $500 million donor list
    Door Dash – food delivery company, $500,000
    Ford Foundation and Borealis Philanthropy – Left-wing groups that established a $100 million donor fund
    George Soros’ Open Society Foundation – $33 million
    Glossier cosmetics – $500,000
    Pokemon Company – owners of the popular card game and its characters, $100,000
    Scopely – mobile phone game developer, $1 million to BLM, NAACP, and Equal Justice Initiative
    Spanx – undergarment manufacturer, $100,000 to groups including BLM
    Square Enix computer games – $250,000 to BLM, also matching employee donations
    Ubisoft computer games – $100,000 to NAACP and BLM
    The Weeknd – Canadian R&B singer, $250,000
  5. #65
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    According to an investigation by The Washington Times, O’Reilly said, “George Soros since 2015 has given Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation 33 million dollars
  6. #66
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    'F*** black lives!': Trump supporters scream 'white power' in parade

    Academic recorded rally in support of president, featuring profanities 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-north-carolina-confederate-rally-b511700.html
  7. #67
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Your little what if story does nothing to refute the evidence that BLM and ATIFA are funded by Soros.

    I think youre view isn't totally wrong just a little too simple. I mentioned co-opting earlier. Perhaps there's a faction fronting a message that spontaneously gained traction to get an easy gig for a minute and just managed to get the copywriter first.

    Shiiit if I were right wing I'd just start trademarking and getting copywrite in any new slogan popping up.
  8. #68
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    N U A N C E
  9. #69
    rabbitweed African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Obbe 'F*** black lives!': Trump supporters scream 'white power' in parade

    Academic recorded rally in support of president, featuring profanities 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-north-carolina-confederate-rally-b511700.html

    good bot
  10. #70
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Nil I think youre view isn't totally wrong just a little too simple. I mentioned co-opting earlier. Perhaps there's a faction fronting a message that spontaneously gained traction to get an easy gig for a minute and just managed to get the copywriter first.

    Shiiit if I were right wing I'd just start trademarking and getting copywrite in any new slogan popping up.

    Ignore the evidence in favor of pet theories
  11. #71
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Ignore the evidence in favor of pet theories

    Never said you were wrong, just that your view probably isn't the whole picture. But as I said you are simple.

    Then again I wouldn't be surprised if some people rioting weren't state affiliated in some way.
  12. #72
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Nil Never said you were wrong, just that your view probably isn't the whole picture. But as I said you are simple.

    Then again I wouldn't be surprised if some people rioting weren't state affiliated in some way.

    By simple if you mean smarter enough to make choices that don't lead to me needing welfare like you do then yes, I'm simple.
  13. #73
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker I'm simple.

    it's not your fault, you can't help it.
  14. #74
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Nil it's not your fault, you can't help it.

    You do realize you just talked to yourself right?
  15. #75
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by CASPER Yeah because antifa and BLM are subject to all kinds of “atrocities”.

    I didnt say anything about all of them being violent, or even that anything should be “done” about it. I said the premise- that unarmed black people are killed on a daily basis by police (who they believe are just a proxy for white people) is a complete lie. And its fuelling people who really just hate the white working class. A bunch of criminals getting shot doing dumb violent criminal shit isnt a cause worthy of burning cities. And the handful that arent arent a number large enough that its indicative of a larger trend. Im not going to gather a bunch of rednecks with fishing boats a d trawl nets because 2 people got attacked by sharks here last year.

    There has to be a deterrent to people committing crime. Social workers prancing around the hood aint it. Plenty of urban youth break the cycle and become productive because they dont want to go to prison like their family members. I mean lol why the fuck did i give up making tens of thousands extra dollars a year? It certainly wasnt entirely for a clean conscience. I was tired of being stopped and paranoid and wondering if i had bail money set aside, or if this person was a UC.

    I mean whats your solution to crime then, if not police? Vigilantism? Surely you recognize someone has to deal with it? The same people wanting to abolish police are hilariously the same people up in arms about ahmaud arbery, NEWSFLASH: thats going to be every single day if people have to deal with crime themselves.

    What? That isn't what you said. You are entitled to your dopinion but it's a consent pushing narrative and a dangerous position subject to overreach. You literally live in the Country that has FOR DECADES lead the world in incarceration. Does it lead the world in crime? Well, only in violent gun crime for non Venezuelan countries. It is obviously not working, any idiot can see that. It's a system where urban youths are part of a pipeline that sends them to prison, essentially becoming a ward of the state on and off for their entire lives. That's how the system works and it's apparent to everyone. Adding more police does not "solve" the issues you have. I don't care if it's black, white, brown, whoever people, I don't care if they're getting killed, molested, tarred and feathered or let go with a pat on the head: the system is broken and isn't doing what it's supposed to be doing. Duh.

    I just agree with the "defund the police" motif. The good thing about BLM is they actually seem to have an objective. "Occupy wall street" was retarded because they had no idea what their solution was and none of them had jobs. Slashing law enforcement budgets will not send a wave of crime across the nation AND WHO CARES IF IT FUCKING DOES???? ARE YOU A CITIZEN OR A DOG FACED PONY SOLDIER??? ARE YOU A HUMAN OR AN AGENT??? Freedoms are so hard to get back when they're taken away. Idk I could write about this for a long time, it's sad you think this way, or anyone does really.

    Your country is so stupid, They believe scientists are lying to them about global warming and a virus and all kinds of things but think it's great their government takes their money then spends it training people to police them and act as an arm of the state. How the fuck can people believe in government's altruistic intent but not believe in science? What the fuck is wrong with the world? It makes my head hurt. Defund the police. I want my money going to better things. Why is that controversial?
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  16. #76
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Because nobody has any suggestions as to how to deal with crime otherwise.

    Who cares if theres a wave of crime? The victims of crime care. Go figure.
  17. #77
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Sudo The good thing about BLM is they actually seem to have an objective. "Occupy wall street" was retarded because they had no idea what their solution was and none of them had jobs.

    lol wut

    literally the opposite is true

    OWS was a sustained, nonviolent obstruction that was actually creating a political effect until it got infiltrated and fragmented to fuck.

    BLM has no realistic goals and is primarily an outlet for rich white kids to (violently) virtue signal
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  18. #78
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by aldra lol wut

    literally the opposite is true

    OWS was a sustained, nonviolent obstruction that was actually creating a political effect until it got infiltrated and fragmented to fuck.

    BLM has no realistic goals and is primarily an outlet for rich white kids to (violently) virtue signal

    OWS invented the idea of the "Oppression Stack" and was the first time intersectionality made it into the mainstream. OWS is basically indirectly responsible for the rise of SJWs and the cancel culture of today. OWS was a bunch of lazy stoners sitting around being mad because rich people exist. OWS was not a good thing either.

    Police are good. Authority is good. ORDER IS GOOD. The disheveled masses should remain as voiceless as possible.
  19. #79
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    I didn't say I supported them, just that they were effective
  20. #80
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by aldra I didn't say I supported them, just that they were effective

    Occupy didn't do anything. The Dodd-Frank act was happening anyway and it's scaled back now. I have never seen any list of demands or anything at ALL from occupy, even the fucking BC based founders had no specific objective besides "muh inequality"

    And it was a good time for the economic climate too. BLM is decentralized enough that now police departments are hiring people to find out what "defund the police" even means and looks like.

    They're both ill conceived as political movements but BLM has been pretty fucking effective. "Occupy" was literal hippies who didn't know what they were talking about. Fuck I'm high on edibles and it's l8 I don't really wanna keep contrasting and comparing BLM and occupy because they both have very cringey aspects but the stated goals of BLM are a lot clearer than occupies. BLM stated goals seem to be accountability "ending systemic racism" and defunding the police and probly some other shit that's not going to happen. Adbusters itself literally did not have a plan or an idea when it came to occupy, plus it couldn't gather mainstream legitimacy besides raising awareness about inequality. Least thats what it seemz to me and I've read "capital" by Thomas Piketty fucking twice.

    Also, many more economic opportunities have been created as a result of BLM
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