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Scientists Predict There's 90% Chance Civilization Will Collapse Within 'Decades'

  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    From the power grid failure we've seen how many ways the whole thing collapses. From simply not having electricity, we see food distribution failure (and police guard dumpsters full of food), no gasoline for cars , roads un navigable... yet in wealthy areas there is no loss of power. Its bad enough the state is ill prepared but the people have no tools or resources for this worse case scenario.
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Heating Arctic may be to blame for snowstorms in Texas, scientists argue:

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/17/arctic-heating-winter-storms-climate-change
  3. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Massive Methane Craters in Siberia Permafrost:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/world/siberia-craters-arctic-climate-change-scn/index.html

    I've read methane is something like 80x worse than carbon for trapping heat ... and there's massive stores of methane trapped in the permafrost. Now that the permafrost is melting, these stores will continue to be released, causing an exponential increase in temperatures, causing more melting and more release, etc.
  4. Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Obbe Massive Methane Craters in Siberia Permafrost:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/world/siberia-craters-arctic-climate-change-scn/index.html

    I've read methane is something like 80x worse than carbon for trapping heat … and there's massive stores of methane trapped in the permafrost. Now that the permafrost is melting, these stores will continue to be released, causing an exponential increase in temperatures, causing more melting and more release, etc.

    Methane, I've heard, also breaks down fairly quickly. It has an atmospheric half-life under a decade. Not to say that permafrost methane sinks don't pose a threat, but any threat they pose will thankfully solve itself in (relatively) short order.
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  5. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    The climate and our global ecosystem are incredibly complex and there is much we do not understand about them. I do not come from a scientific background and thus am not very well suited to assessing the information available. When I see debates over the severity of climate change, the anguish of dealing with the massive losses that are certainly guaranteed is complicated by my confusion over what to expect. I admit, I would certainly like to believe that we are not totally doomed - but at the same time, I can't rule out the possibility, and if this is the case I would prefer to know the truth. (Or perhaps I am deluding myself here and would, in fact, not prefer to know the truth.) Either way, it seems like there is not enough certainty to make a clear assessment aside from a vague understanding that we are fucked.

    The world temperature has not dropped below average for 433 consecutive months. The last time conditions were even favorable for 400+ was during the Eocene (fifty million years ago).

    Co2 is somewhere between 413ppm and 416ppm.

    There were record high temperatures at both poles last year. And that's without any help from the ENSO. It was not an El-Nino year.

    The thermohaline circulation is slowing. Which is why there is currently an excessive freeze across America.

    Half of the ice shelves in Antarctica can disappear within a matter of hours or even minutes. They hold the ice sheet in place.

    The problem with catastrophism is that it becomes an excuse for not doing anything. Someone who's convinced that it's all going to end miserably with a whimper isn't going to bother hitting the gym tomorrow after work, let alone push for eco-friendly measures to at least curb the problem.
  6. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    How Extreme Cold Turned Into a U.S. Energy Crisis:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-15/how-extreme-cold-turned-into-a-u-s-energy-crisis-quicktake?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_source=url_link&utm_content=business

    Declining energy available, many small and medium sized businesses, restaurants, bars, travel, entertainment will be shutdown replaced with lower energy activities such as streaming media to homes. There will be product shortages, less selection, back orders, supply chain disruptions. Rolling blackouts might become a thing. People might have more money in their bank accounts but will feel poorer as costs go up faster than incomes. Large underclass of educated young people who can't afford to buy a home or start a family, they'll live with their aging parents or roommates while scraping by.

    A civilization in decline.
  7. Originally posted by Obbe Half of the ice shelves in Antarctica can disappear within a matter of hours or even minutes. They hold the ice sheet in place.

    people who say this have never tried to thaw a fish or understand how sciences work.
  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Earth has 9 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis: "There's no faking it on this one"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/climate-change-9-years-john-kerry/
  10. Do you want someone to read that?
  11. Originally posted by I Live In Your Crawlspace Secretly4 Do you want someone to read that?

    do you want someone to answer thjs ?
  12. Donald Trump Black Hole
    Originally posted by Obbe Earth has 9 years to avert the worst consequences of climate crisis: "There's no faking it on this one"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/climate-change-9-years-john-kerry/

    Is this article from 1990?
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  13. A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    op you little sleuth faggot who follows me around NIS go back to your daddy jeff hunter and suck his dick like the little whiny bitch you are with these crap threads

    copy pasta douche , go kick rocks
  14. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Again and again, “human nature” is fatalistically invoked as one of the reasons for the impending collapse of the world. The deeds of mankind are determined by “drives and instincts”; as such, they are inevitable and irreparable. It is of course a truism that human nature is behind all human actions. This, however, does not make all deeds unavoidable — not those perpetuated by individuals or communities. It would be intellectually absurd for anyone to argue that the prevailing culture and way of life in his era, the direction life has taken in his age, has been unavoidable.

    For example, the well-known statement by a Finnish prime minister that economic growth, the EU, EMU, competition and information technology are the sole options in this epoch and for this country, is foolish. These options have nothing to do with historical inevitability: they are arbitrary choices made by a small group of individuals — small, yet amazingly powerful and influential in its folly.

    Even a brief glance at history brings forth a vast spectrum of alternatives. The human species has developed a huge variety of cultures and ways of life. Now, at the brink of global ruin, the most interesting of these cultures are those that are preserving, life-affirming and humble towards nature, and which adopt a conservationist approach to natural resources. It is a notable fact that similar cultures include not only the local societies that still flourish in parts of Africa, Australia and the rain forests of Brazil and Indonesia, but also what were once dominating societies. This was, for instance, the case with the Neolithic culture that ruled Europe a few thousand years ago: a culture that did not go to war and, most importantly, was in control of technology (then a useful tool rather than a master).

    The urges and instincts of humans do not vary only according to geographical distribution: even the same population — Finns, for instance — might be at one time furiously devoted to killing other men (Germans, Poles, Hungarians, etc.) and getting its own population killed; and at another time (e.g. the 1990s), seek to preserve human life with an hysterical lack of common sense (through incubators and rescue helicopters, with no regard for costs). One must be unflinchingly attentive and open-minded in assessing the cause- effect relations, connections and influences on the lives of various cultures, of different stages in the same culture, as well as changes in the spiritual climate. A complete detachment from the confusing spell of one’s own age, an ability to perceive the tendencies of that age objectively, externally, by comparative means, are an absolute requirement. Knowledge of history is critical for thinking, but most essential of all is to be able to examine one’s own epoch — the only epoch one is capable of influencing.

    What will an objective historian of his own time, an observer of human movements, a cultural anthropologist, make of contemporary Western culture? No doubt, what he will find is a truly unique spirit and way of life that has exceeded all bounds. Western culture, pervaded by capitalist market economy, knows no historical parallels in terms of greed and frenzy: even the slightest humility it has turned into its opposite, particularly in its relation to nature (but also in the relationships it fosters between humans). So far, it is the lowest point ever reached by humanity.

    Never in history has economy — money — played such a central role in culture as in the countries leading world culture today. Never before has the kind of vile, hellish gambling connected to stocks, exchange rates, basic interests, prime rates, investment funds, options, derivatives, trading incomes, annual profits and other similar variables spread from a limited band of crooks to the very core of society.

    Never before in history have natural resources been so depleted. Almost the entire globe has already been stripped bare. The few resources that still remain — oil in the Barents Sea, wood in Siberia, Karelia and the Pacific Islands — are being preyed upon by crooked claws striking with unparalleled efficiency (Finnish claws, as always, are even longer and more crooked than those of others). Construction, the suffocating of green land, knows no boundaries; nor do the production, transfer and consumption of goods, or the bolting of tourists from one place to another.

    Never before in history have the distinguishing values of a culture been things as concretely destructive for life and the quality of life as democracy, individual freedom and human rights — not to mention money. Freedom here means the freedom to consume, to exploit, to tread upon others. All rights, even the most seemingly beautiful — women’s rights, children’s rights, rights for the disabled — only express one thing: ME, ME, ME. Pure selfishness has been given a new name: “self-realisation”, now considered the noblest of all morals. Words like responsibility, duty, humility, self-sacrifice, nurturing and care are always spat upon, if they still happen to be mentioned.

    For all their mistakes, even such recently buried ideologies as fascism and socialism, both of which emphasized communal values and contained restrictive norms, were on a higher ethical level. The same goes for Christianity: only a while ago the Church spoke of fear of God, of humility, and of the need to counter sin with virtue, altruism, and care for one’s neighbour. Now this yes-man of an institution, hankering after earthly power, is promoting only forgiveness and mercy. How tremendously distant this feels from the guideline “we came not to be served, but to serve” that only a few decades ago the Church was following!

    Cultural anthropology is familiar with failed, merciless cultures, in which fear and terror rule the life of man. These cultures have only developed in small areas, lasted for a short period of time, and have never threatened the whole biosphere. Now, all those countries that hold sway over the Earth are experiencing the most uncontrollable, menacing and cruel of all ages.

    When such a colossal amount of faults have been piled on human culture that the whole human society has become one uniform, giant Fault, the resoluteness of an attentive and mindful guardian of life is truly put to the test. How to unravel this chaos, how to fight against some flaw when it is linked to a thousand other flaws? The market economy of contemporary capitalism — this veritable religion of ruin, global destruction and extinction — might seem overwhelming. Many are crushed, and choose to end their own lives. Many more surrender, paralysed, and attempt to find a tiny hovel of their own, a place where they can keep busy and cover their ears. It would be easy to draw a long list of such people among our “Green”, “environmentalist” brothers and sisters.

    And yet... History, and history alone, will strengthen the faith of he who strives to keep his wits about him and use his energy to change the course of the world. Enormous, stunning changes have taken place even within single cultures or regions: some of these positive changes, aimed at improvement.

    A reasonable man will thus always choose his models from history. The known history of mankind is already so vast that it contains all the positive exemplars required. The past will always provide the best guidelines when fighting for the future. But if the future is fashioned after a madman’s belief in progress and development, delusions and science fictions, the game is most certainly over.
  15. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Drop in egg quality and sperm counts due to endocrine disrupters:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/opinion/sunday/endocrine-disruptors-sperm.html

    BPA free doesn't matter because there's also BPS and other endocrine disrupters aka synthetic hormones.

    Plastics even leech this stuff at room temperature. This doesn't just happen in cold or hot temps. We can't use plastic with food unless we want to continue this mass experiment of dumping synthetic hormones on everyone except for people in the developing world.

    Cows were being given rBST and other hormones to produce larger cows or cows with higher milk output. Though "no link was ever found" between cow hormones and humans, the cow industry stopped using them for some reason...hmmm.

    Now we're seeing issues with phalates and PFCs causing all kinds of endocrine disruptions because our water supply is hopelessly tained with both the chemicals themselves and microplastics where they leech from. If you're drinking tap water, you're drinking a credit card's worth of microplastics weekly

    Scientists already know how damaging PFCs are because they have been doing studies on whales and their population collapses. Turns out these chemicals don't break down in nature, and accumulate in fat & liver cells. Whales blubber, livers, and even their milk have toxic levels of this stuff. Whales are functionally extinct at this point, as the PFCs continue to accrete up the food chain to them, they'll reach a point of no return.
  16. Ghost Black Hole
    Condom industry is sweating
  17. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Freshwater fish in 'catastrophic' decline:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56160756

    Conservation groups said 80 species were known to have gone extinct, 16 in the last year alone. Millions of people rely on freshwater fish for food and as a source of income through angling and the pet trade. But numbers have plummeted due to pressures including pollution, unsustainable fishing, and the damming and draining of rivers and wetlands.

    The report said populations of migratory fish have fallen by three-quarters in the last 50 years. Over the same time period, populations of larger species, known as "megafish", have crashed by 94%.
  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
  19. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    I sometimes wonder if obbe even reads all the stuff he copy/pastes
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  20. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra I sometimes wonder if obbe even reads all the stuff he copy/pastes

    Who is more to be pitied, a writer bound and gagged by policemen or one living in perfect freedom who has nothing more to say?
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