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Yes psychos, all the ¡Science! shows masks do help stop viruses

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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    In a 2013 study, researchers counted the number of virus particles in the air around patients with flu. They found that surgical masks decreased the exhalation of large viral droplets 25-fold. The masks were, however, less effective against the fine viral droplets that can remain suspended in the air longer and are therefore more infectious, cutting them by 2.8 times.

    Surgical masks also afford fairly good protection for the worried well. In an oft-cited study of 446 nurses, researchers found surgical masks were as good, or nearly as good, at protecting the wearer against flu as respirators, a somewhat more high-tech, masklike device used in hospitals.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/well/live/face-masks-work-healthy-colds-flu-immunity-prevention.html


    Live influenza virus was measurable from the air behind all surgical masks tested. The data indicate that a surgical mask will reduce exposure to aerosolised infectious influenza virus; reductions ranged from 1.1- to 55-fold (average 6-fold), depending on the design of the mask.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23498357

    Of course no protection is absolute, but even cheap surgical masks do cut down the amount of viruses both entering and exiting the body. Given that, it seems incredible that the highly paid experts are recommending against wearing masks.

    “It seems kind of intuitively obvious that if you put something—whether it’s a scarf or a mask—in front of your nose and mouth, that will enhancement out some of these viruses that are floating around out there,” says Dr. William Schaffner, professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University. The only problem: that’s not effective against respiratory illnesses like the flu and COVID-19. If it were, “the CDC would have recommended it years ago,” he says. “It doesn’t, because it makes science-based recommendations.”
    https://time.com/5794729/coronavirus-face-masks/

    The science seems to disagree with the people who fucking love science. What on earth is going on? This seems like psychopathy to me?

    Is it just ego?

    “Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!” tweeted Dr. Jerome Adams, the U.S. Surgeon General, on Feb. 29. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”

    This doesn't make a lick of sense. I genuinely think doctors and nurses think they have some secret powers that make equipment and medicines only work for them, and no one else. Hence the prescription system, medical licensing, etc.
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  2. #2
    CandyRein Dark Matter


    I think this is a helpful video ..

    Have a great day ..

    :)
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by CandyRein I think this is a helpful video ..

    Have a great day ..

    :)

    "keep a metre away"?

    Corona has been proven to travel several metres.

    The comments on that video are also helpful, and rip the video apart. The video has zero reference to science or studies or anything. So masks are bad because the virus accumulates on them as opposed to in your lungs? And then maybe get virus on your hands, as opposed to your lungs? That's literally what she says at 2:10.

    Candy, by sharing videos like this you are giving bad advice to people, and cannot possibly believe this.

    Of course you don't, because you'll wear a facemask as soon as you are confronted with an airbourne disease. Bad advice is only for us, not for you.

    OTOH this is a fair article:

    In 2008, Makison Booth set out to discover to what extent surgical masks could protect wearers. She hooked up one of her dummies to a resuscitation machine, “so it breathed”, she says. She then sealed it in a cabinet and sprayed tiny airborne droplets – a simulated sneeze – containing influenza at it while it wore a series of protective masks.

    Different designs of surgical mask were tested, including the standard strip of fabric, a duck-bill-shaped one and a 3D moulded one. “They conferred a low level of protection to the wearer,” she says, diplomatically. The virus was found inside all the masks, but they had provided something like a six-fold decrease in the amount of virus exposure.

    Wearing a substandard mask may at least deter wearers from self-contaminating by putting their hands to their noses or mouths, but we can self-contaminate by touching our eyes, too. “We know that in the markets in Wuhan,” says MacIntyre, “they found coronavirus all over the surfaces, so someone walking through could touch it and contaminate themselves.”

    Makison Booth also tested disposable enhancementing facepiece (FFP) respirators. They are designed to enhancement tiny particulates, and are recommended in the UK for professionals working under possible exposure to airborne diseases. These provided 100 times more protection than going barefaced.

    However, truly protecting yourself isn’t as simple as buying any old FFP. There is a dizzying array on offer, with confusingly similar names, and in the west they are more likely to be marketed for pollution than disease. “N95” types are heavily promoted online. Makison Booth says this is the US equivalent of the UK’s second-most-effective model, imaginatively called the FFP2. However, she says, “we recommend the use of an FFP3 [the highest protection available] because it will enhancement out more particles”. The US versions are tested only for dry particulates, she says, but the UK FFPs are tested against liquid in aerosols, too. Before you buy any mask, make sure it has a CE certification mark, which indicates conformity with EU health, safety and environmental protection standards.

    There is little point in wearing one without testing that it fits properly, and most manufacturers sell fit-testing kits. “Areas such as the bridge of your nose to your cheek and under the chin are often places where air will leak through, rather than going through the enhancement material,” says Makison Booth.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/31/our-face-mask-future-do-they-really-help-beat-flu-coronavirus-and-pollution
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  4. #4
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    I’m not wearing the masks because they are pourous ... which is why you can breathe in them and you don’t suffocate with it on right lol

    common sense ..you can breathe in it..do you think it’s helping..?


    Those mask are not made for that they are to protect from bodily fluids..

    I’m sure there are masks specifically made to do that.. but that facial guard for bodily fluids...
    It’s not a magic mask..

    I’m not wearing that chit...


    I wish you the best

    Again

    Have a good day
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    OK so air enhancements don't work, got it.
  6. #6
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    I’m sure that would work like a gas mask maybe..which is why I said

    I’m sure they have mask for that .. not a facial guard with open sides ...wth

    Ya know ..Wear it.. sure it’s gonna save you

    My apologies:)
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    What are you on about open sides?

    Constantly changing arguments.
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    No one will admit "oh I was wrong" either.
  9. #9
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    I’m not arguing with you Star Trek 🤣

    I have not changed anything I said..

    The mask are porous..the side are not glued to the side of your face .. you don’t think air is goin through

    Use your brain..wear tho.. I’m not

    And have a good day
  10. #10
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    OK.

    Thanks for posting your helpful misinformation video in this thread.
  11. #11
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    No problem..enjoy your Corona ;)
  12. #12
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by CandyRein No problem..enjoy your Corona ;)

    A mask is going to give me corona virus?

    Of course.

    Masks only protect medical professionals.

    Magic.
  13. #13
    A College Professor Naturally Camouflaged [your moreover breastless limestone]
    OP has to justify being one of those weirdos that wears his dental dam in public
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  14. #14
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    I can’t argue this common sense all night Star Trek.. I don’t live with my mom and I have things to do this Friday

    But if you can show me one instance where those masks are used in a medical setting to protect from a virus and not bodily fluids ok

    Use your brain..



    This is what you need as protection something much more than a surgical mask ..



    I’ll check back later
    Smile and be safe ..

    :)
  15. #15
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by CandyRein I can’t argue this common sense all night Star Trek.. I don’t live with my mom and I have things to do this Friday

    But if you can show me one instance where those masks are used in a medical setting to protect from a virus and not bodily fluids ok

    Use your brain..



    This is what you need as protection something much more than a surgical mask ..



    I’ll check back later
    Smile and be safe ..

    :)

    You want as good as you can get. Ideally isolated air supplies, hermetically sealed suits, etc.

    But if you can't get that you make do with the best you can get.

    Suggesting people go without any protection whatsoever for no good reason is .... pretty fucked up, and that's exactly what is being suggested by those who claim to know better, like you.

    And you make this about me and insult me and my life?

    I feel like I'm talking to a dumb stoner. I'll get corona virus if I wear a mask. Hur dur.
  16. #16
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    Say that magic happens... all the Corona has Not entered through the mask

    You gonna take the mask of with an ungloved hand because you don’t know chit lol

    And guess what .. it’s on your hands and everything you touch

    An a baby like you would stick your hand right in your mouth

    Remain ignorant at home with mom thinking you know everything
  17. #17
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by CandyRein Say that magic happens… all the Corona has Not entered through the mask

    You gonna take the mask of with an ungloved hand because you don’t know chit lol

    And guess what .. it’s on your hands and everything you touch

    An a baby like you would stick your hand right in your mouth

    Remain ignorant at home with mom thinking you know everything

    So it's on my hands as opposed to being in my lungs.

    It's on my hands.

    As opposed to being in my lungs.

    It isn't absorbed through the digestive tract. It isn't absorbed through the hands. It isn't absorbed through the face even.

    It's a corona virus. It's a respiratory tract infection. It is absorbed through the respiratory tract.

    Go get stoned again and hand out some more pills it's all you can do.
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  18. #18
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Public: "There's an epidemic of an airbourne virus! What shall we do?!?!"

    Expert: "D-don't wear a mask. You might get some on your hands"
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  19. #19
    CandyRein Dark Matter
    I’m not wearing it...

    You do what you want lol

    You’re super pissed and you’re scared.. I don’t think I can say anything to change that ..

    And I’m not even gonna try.. it’s your life...

    I’m with Japanese people right now unmasked and fearless ..

    And the hibachi show is about to begin..

    *shrugs*

    Later lol
  20. #20
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by CandyRein I’m with Japanese people right now unmasked and fearless ..

    So brave.

    Though you're pretty much admitting that wearing a mask is showing fear.

    So that's why you don't want us to wear masks. Moral reasons, not scientific ones.

    But the whole point in wearing a mask at our age, at which corona is survivable, is to avoid transmitting it, especially on to vulnerable populations.

    You obviously don't care about that too much.
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