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  1. #41
    Splam African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cheyes Fucking lol

    Source?

    I first noticed that I had migraines while tripping a few years ago

    House MD self induced a migraine then cured it with LSD!
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gxunk
  2. #42
    Cheyes Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Splam House MD self induced a migraine then cured it with LSD!
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gxunk

    that's mushrooms.

    also that's cluster headaches, which is well documented.

    not lsd and migraines. totally different kinds of headaches.
  3. #43
    also that's a tv show
  4. #44
    Splam African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Cheyes that's mushrooms.

    also that's cluster headaches, which is well documented.

    not lsd and migraines. totally different kinds of headaches.

    Pretty sure he took LSD in that episode for a migraine. You should watch it.

    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace also that's a tv show

    I know
  5. #45
    It's mushrooms that have been proven for cluster migranes

    not LSD.

    Just because you saw it on a TV show (if you even did) doesn't make it real.
  6. #46
    Cheyes Tuskegee Airman
    basically lsd would do the same thing for migraines that ergotamine and triptans would, which is vasoconstriction of brain vessels, so like ergotamine it would work for some and not for others. ergotamine does not help me, imitrex and other triptans make them significantly worse. LSD is too complicated of an experience to get into why it has the effects that it does, but they have generally caused lots of hurty, and I didn't know those hurty things along the way were migraines until after my final trip thus far. then it all made sense finally

    so since ergotamine makes my headaches worse, and LSD is made out of ergotamine, it makes sense that it could in theory make them worse apart from just amplification of everything. It does not occur the whole time though, it only occurred for part of the trip, which corresponds with how I generally have migraines everyday but only during part of the day.

    Now for cluster headaches there is a much bigger case for psychedelics, possibly including LSD but most famously psyilocybin(sp) as a means of treatment, but I'm unaware of how cluster headaches work, but I know it's differently than migraines.
  7. #47
    Cheyes Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace It's mushrooms that have been proven for cluster migranes

    not LSD.

    Just because you saw it on a TV show (if you even did) doesn't make it real.

    cluster migraines dont exist

    there are migraine headaches

    and cluster headaches

    some unlucky bastards have both, but they are exclusive conditions
  8. #48
    Originally posted by Cheyes cluster migraines dont exist

    there are migraine headaches

    and cluster headaches

    some unlucky bastards have both, but they are exclusive conditions

    no
  9. #49
    Cheyes Tuskegee Airman
    also, the cause of cluster headaches is basically entirely unknown. the only consistently highly effective treatment is oxygen, and there are no approved drugs for it.

    even the case for psychedelics being effective for CH is quite controversial and there are no studies on it. That said, I do believe there is probably some way we don't know of that mushrooms are attenuating things for cluster headache, but to say it's "impossible to have a migraine on LSD" is just retarded
  10. #50
    Cheyes Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace no

    you dont know what you're talking about

    cluster migraine doesnt exist. they work completely differently. this is elementary
  11. #51
    Splam African Astronaut
    Well my grand fat uncle Joe said he had a headache that wouldn't go away for a week - then he microdosed on acid and it went away!
    Just because something isn't scientifically proven doesn't mean it doesn't work. Research is mostly banned on LSD anyways. Only starting to open up on psilocybin.
  12. #52
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Does it really feel like a dream or not real? DMT always felt very real to me. Like an actual memory and feeling of having been somewhere for a long, long time; a trip in every sense of the word.

    It feels as real as anything. I would always literally forget who I am, what this world is, the trip would become my reality. What I meant was that after the experience, trying to recall the trips is very similar to trying to recall a dream after you wake up - within moments your memory becomes foggy. Back when I used to experiment with salvia extracts I found using calea ternifolia would help with that.

    Also I meant what I said about this experience feeling creepy. It really is like pulling back the veil and seeing something very complex and weird and incredibly fucked up under the surface of our reality.
  13. #53
    It's only 24 steps for a 1% yield synthetically

    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/ol800101v/suppl_file/ol800101v-file001.pdf
  14. #54
    Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood It's only 24 steps for a 1% yield synthetically

    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/ol800101v/suppl_file/ol800101v-file001.pdf

    How does salvia work?
  15. #55
    it's a kappa-opioid agonist
  16. #56
    Cheyes Tuskegee Airman
    what's known is that it's a KOR

    but how it actually works is almost entirely unknown, as that can't really account for most of it
  17. #57
    cigreting Dark Matter
    Originally posted by Grylls wel i remember wen i got saliva all ovr ur dik wen i suked it u fagit

    m8 4 dat coment im gona sneak in ur granmums house wen u slepin n cum in ur ashole til it flows ova u faget
  18. #58
    Originally posted by Obbe If you smoke it wrong it just makes you sort of fuzzy headed for a few minutes. If you smoke it correctly it will make you forget who you are and what reality is and will send you on a trans-dimensional trip, you will perceive things and will not be able to comprehend them, time will dilate and you will spend an eternity in this other world and finally as you start to come back to reality a friend may ask you how you are doing or what it was like, and you will try to describe it but all that will fall out of your mouth is a mess of nonsense. Within a few minutes everything returns to normal and you can speak again, but you will quickly start to forget the details of your trip and it will seem more like a dream.

    That happens to me sober sometimes
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