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Doesn't Prop. 187 in California prove that we are not being listened to with regards to immigration?

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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Space Nigga [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187
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    Technologist motherfucker
    Who’s we???
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Space Nigga [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by Technologist Who’s we???

    Good question.
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Space Nigga [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by Technologist Who’s we???

    Basically I am given to sense you are not allied with me or mine.

    So what should make me better disposed towards you than the average beggar in an African street?

    Nothing at all?

    Personally, I believe I can live with that.
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    We vs Us and Them

    There are so many people who hate the government for grievances real, perceived and slight.

    They are trying to prevent the government having influence in society. Kind of like that Russian election interference.

    They want migrants to come here with their cultures and identities and to not assimilate. They want to dilute western values and replace them with someone anti American.

    They are gonna win.

    The government doesn't want friends it wants lackies. That's how it works. Follow orders, salute, show no individualism or be forced to do push-ups.

    They don't know how to be friends. They want you dependent on them, fearful of them and to see them as your source of sense of self.

    The government can't win.

    Look at everything the government has painted as public enemy:

    Trade unions, ie, a true American will work 80hrs at minimum wage to make the economy function and turn me in to a millionaire

    Socialism - look after each other, share the wealth around, freedom

    Skateboarding - you can't show fun to people it will demotivate them to go to work

    The government is not friendly. It is oppressive. It offers you a sense of self that requires cult like conformity and the willingness to go to war for it. It says all the good things are bad. What are the good things?

    Go to work everyday
    Pay tax
    Bomb brown people
    Support a free market. Some guy is a billionaire you have a mortgage.
    No skateboarding

    All the values we are conditioned to hold are designed to support a system and a war machine. None of them are doing us any good, unless you enjoy wasting your life to afford $700 Gucci shoes to say your Saturday is better than mine because I'm wearing $60 Adidas. We are so insecure that a label on shoes defines our person. This is what they enforce upon us.
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    The people were stupid as shit to form government in the first place and give them ultimate power. That was the people's first and last mistake. They created a Frankenstein's monster, and now it's loose, and there's no stopping it now. Not by human hands.
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    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Originally posted by -SpectraL The people were stupid as shit to form government in the first place and give them ultimate power. That was the people's first and last mistake. They created a Frankenstein's monster, and now it's loose, and there's no stopping it now. Not by human hands.

    And the alternative to a governing body is...?
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by CASPER And the alternative to a governing body is…?

    in the US at least the constitution was meant to constrain it somewhat
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by aldra in the US at least the constitution was meant to constrain it somewhat

    They spy freely on everyone. They get other countries to do it for them, too. They are banning arms. They are banning speech. They are prosecuting free speech. They are jailing and prosecuting journalists with no due process. They are harassing lawful protests. They are waging countless illegal and immoral wars, not approved by Congress. The Constitution doesn't exist anymore. It's just a word that is bandied about, like it means something, but it really doesn't. It once did, but not anymore.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    you don't need to convince me; that's why I said meant to
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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    Originally posted by -SpectraL The people were stupid as shit to form government in the first place and give them ultimate power. That was the people's first and last mistake. They created a Frankenstein's monster, and now it's loose, and there's no stopping it now. Not by human hands.

    They believed the government cared. This is not their fault.
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by too.dark.to.see They believed the government cared. This is not their fault.

    Well, they believed wrong.
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    Most people are unable to consider that other people are bad.

    Unless they are brown people. Then they are automatically bad.
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    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Just think, it was one guy who set up the CIA - the most evil organization known to man. It was also one man who set up the FBI, another despicably evil organization, and there's no depth to its depravity. So, two men alone are responsible for all that corruption and evil over all those decades.
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    But they had to recruit.

    In order to be recruitable you had to be raised on values that share the internal culture of these organizations, not values reflective of their outward appearance.

    Who are these people and where do they come from?
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    Originally posted by aldra you don't need to convince me; that's why I said meant to

    spectral likes to preach to the choir boys.
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