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  1. #21
    We'reAllBrownNosers African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box you seem to have the same general taste that I do, you would probably also enjoy Grenache and Syrah. Merlot, cab, malbec, grenache, syrah, those are my five basic red wine grapes that don't do me wrong. Of course there are hundreds of varietals, some very obscure and limited to region, but you can't go wrong with the "basics", so to speak.

    once you get the grape types you like you should hone in on some regions, france, italy, california, chile, and spain are my top five. not only are there differences in the soil ("terroir") but different countries have different standards of doing things. Italy and France are pretty traditional but also experiment with and use high tech stuff, Californians are either uber scientific or are meditating outside naked with their grapes. Australians are almost all about technology, consistent good wine but nothing special, no soul. you get the idea.

    the most important thing is age though. the difference between 1 year and 5 years is pretty huge, the difference between 5 and 10 is light years. 10-15 is the sweet spot for red wine, any older than that and you're really gambling. Not all wines are meant to age forever. But god damn, a 13, 14 year old bottle of wine is an entirely different affair than a normal table wine, it is pure ambrosia.

    don't get caught up in the trap of buying big brand names for stupid money! One of my favorite wines/good deals is a Cali Syrah/Mourverdre/Grenache (Oak Meadow), 2003, $9.99! Have had many similarly tasty and priced wines from Chile. Finding amazing, underappreciated wine for wino tier prices is a lot of fun. I'm pretty sure most people that spend $50-$70 on a bottle of 3 year old wine have never had a proper glass of wine.

    Don't you live on greyhound buses/side of the road though?
  2. #22
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box you seem to have the same general taste that I do, you would probably also enjoy Grenache and Syrah. Merlot, cab, malbec, grenache, syrah, those are my five basic red wine grapes that don't do me wrong. Of course there are hundreds of varietals, some very obscure and limited to region, but you can't go wrong with the "basics", so to speak.

    once you get the grape types you like you should hone in on some regions, france, italy, california, chile, and spain are my top five. not only are there differences in the soil ("terroir") but different countries have different standards of doing things. Italy and France are pretty traditional but also experiment with and use high tech stuff, Californians are either uber scientific or are meditating outside naked with their grapes. Australians are almost all about technology, consistent good wine but nothing special, no soul. you get the idea.

    the most important thing is age though. the difference between 1 year and 5 years is pretty huge, the difference between 5 and 10 is light years. 10-15 is the sweet spot for red wine, any older than that and you're really gambling. Not all wines are meant to age forever. But god damn, a 13, 14 year old bottle of wine is an entirely different affair than a normal table wine, it is pure ambrosia.

    don't get caught up in the trap of buying big brand names for stupid money! One of my favorite wines/good deals is a Cali Syrah/Mourverdre/Grenache (Oak Meadow), 2003, $9.99! Have had many similarly tasty and priced wines from Chile. Finding amazing, underappreciated wine for wino tier prices is a lot of fun. I'm pretty sure most people that spend $50-$70 on a bottle of 3 year old wine have never had a proper glass of wine.

    Yeah I've been pretty diligent about my trying out new stuff. Yeah wine a 2 years old or less, i n not wild about unless I'm already drunk. I did try a syrah that was good. Layer cake 2014 Argentinean malbec. 7 deadly Zins red zin from Lodi. The sanctuary pinot noir. Menage a Trois 2015 California red blend. The bottles of Sanctuary pinot noir.

    Yeah it sounds like we have very similar tastes. I like complex, but I also don't want to have to choke it down.

    You have any other standbys that they generally have at ralphs/trader joes?
  3. #23
    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by CASPER Yeah I've been pretty diligent about my trying out new stuff. Yeah wine a 2 years old or less, i n not wild about unless I'm already drunk. I did try a syrah that was good. Layer cake 2014 Argentinean malbec. 7 deadly Zins red zin from Lodi. The sanctuary pinot noir. Menage a Trois 2015 California red blend. The bottles of Sanctuary pinot noir.

    Yeah it sounds like we have very similar tastes. I like complex, but I also don't want to have to choke it down.

    You have any other standbys that they generally have at ralphs/trader joes?

    trader joes is a good place to get pretty good wine at reasonable places. I generally avoid the ralphs tier grocery stores unless I'm buying gallons of carlo rossi (absolute best bang/buck). there's a brand they carry at trade joes called Epicuro, lovely Italian wine with Negroamaro and Aglianico grapes (the Primitivo/Zinfandel is not bad but isn't the best). $4.99 a bottle. several french bordeauxs in the $4-$6 range. those are all pretty decent but they're going to be pretty young, maybe find a 5 year old if you're lucky.

    I don't think you can find truly excellent, well aged wine at cheap prices at grocery stores. Anything approaching good is probably going to be at least $30 if not $50+ which is way too much to spend on a bottle of wine. Shelf space dictates big brands are going to inch out others(trader joes is less bad about this but not the best). You have to go to liquor stores and wine stores. Start with the local liquor stores, although maybe not in the ghetto. you could probably also just look online but finding a good wine in a store is like finding a good book in a library.
  4. #24
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Yeah a few years ago I bought some $15 or so bottles. I tried the older bottles and the 2018 bottles back to back and there was a noticeable difference. Id have to look at the
    lAbel at home if I saved it. But I got a $10.99 bottle of borDeaux and it was pretty good.
  5. #25
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers Alcohol is crap. Too addictive, but if you're going to do it, get a good french or italian wine.

    So addiction is crap. Not alcohol.
  6. #26
    men who enjoy wines need to pinch their testicles to check if they've been crushed or disconected.
  7. #27
    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny men who enjoy wines need to pinch their testicles to check if they've been crushed or disconected.

    are you a scotch fan? or maybe bud light is more to your taste
  8. #28
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box are you a scotch fan? or maybe bud light is more to your taste

    i prefer the woody tastes of whiskeys but not man enough to drink them straight, so i had them watered down to the abv of beers or strong beers.
  9. #29
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny men who enjoy wines need to pinch their testicles to check if they've been crushed or disconected.

    Vikings and sword wielding motherfuckers drank fucktons of wine. Honestly the drunk is just way more enjoyable, just without pissing yourself.

    Beer is a complete waste of time trying to get drunk with, and anything higher than 80 proof just hits me like a train and leaves me with pulsing migraines next day.
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  10. #30
    vikings are now extinct.
  11. #31
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Yeah see...as much as I would LIKE to love whiskey, it tastes like shit to me. I would much rather have a beer than watered down whiskey. I drank jack Daniels till I puked pretty much every weekend of the first 3 years of high school, so the mashy smell of jack just turns my stomach. That and the smell of orange flavored vodka.

    Like if something takes a little getting used to, I'm cool with that. But I'm over forcing myself to like shit I obviously hate. Then again, first 20 times I had wine, it was just sour, rancid tasting, bitter stuff. Wasn't until I bought a few bottles for the holidays and tried some decent stuff that I realized I liked it.

    I wish there was like a whiskey/scotch tasters pack of like 20 different kinds. Just a shot each to mix with water, and see if anything is to your liking.
  12. #32
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny vikings are now extinct.

    No I'm not.
  13. #33
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    They didn't even make the playoffs.
  14. #34
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    i too have been deriving great pleasure from the local sport contest
  15. #35
    Originally posted by CASPER Yeah see…as much as I would LIKE to love whiskey, it tastes like shit to me. I would much rather have a beer than watered down whiskey. I drank jack Daniels till I puked pretty much every weekend of the first 3 years of high school, so the mashy smell of jack just turns my stomach. That and the smell of orange flavored vodka.

    Like if something takes a little getting used to, I'm cool with that. But I'm over forcing myself to like shit I obviously hate. Then again, first 20 times I had wine, it was just sour, rancid tasting, bitter stuff. Wasn't until I bought a few bottles for the holidays and tried some decent stuff that I realized I liked it.

    I wish there was like a whiskey/scotch tasters pack of like 20 different kinds. Just a shot each to mix with water, and see if anything is to your liking.

    whiskeys are like tea or coffee, not everyone can learn to like it. cognac is good too, if it wasnt for the price.

    one of the worst i ever tasted was jaggermister or however its spelled. seconded by gin. i should have known, if it starts with g, its gonna taste gay.

    Originally posted by CASPER No I'm not.

    whens the last time you spoke viking to anyone ?
  16. #36
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Yeah see vodka or gin is one of the few things I'll drink. Except most vodka tastes like rubbing alcohol. Gin i only drink with lime and tonic, which covers any weird taste pretty well. With a ton of lime, once I drink a strong one, gin n tonic just tastes like bitter sprite to me.
  17. #37
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Viking isn't a spoken language it is the will imposed by a man's mere stare or presence. You will know when you are in the presence of a viking.
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  18. #38
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    You will feel his presence and will immediate either feel intense camaraderie and brotherhood, or you will feel dread and intense vuknerability...a mouse beneath a millstone. If it is the former, he may acknowledge you with a simple nod. If the latter, as is dictated by our DNA, he might make a kissy face and your buttocks will pucker in response. An involuntary reflex to a fearful, ancient knowledge.
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  19. #39
    Originally posted by CASPER Yeah see vodka or gin is one of the few things I'll drink. Except most vodka tastes like rubbing alcohol. Gin i only drink with lime and tonic, which covers any weird taste pretty well. With a ton of lime, once I drink a strong one, gin n tonic just tastes like bitter sprite to me.

    homosexuality confirmed.

    Originally posted by CASPER Viking isn't a spoken language it is the will imposed by a man's mere stare or presence. You will know when you are in the presence of a viking.

    show me your swords and horned helmets.
  20. #40
    CASPER Soldier of Fourchin
    Just a protip: never ask a viking to "show you his sword". That's basically asking for the kind of attention I described above. You might as well ask him "Has the meat spoiled?" LOL.
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