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Carfentanil hitting the streets
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2016-09-03 at 6:34 PM UTCJust in time for the Crouton ban
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...ng-the-streets
[SIZE=12px][FONT=Georgia]A powerful drug that's normally used to tranquilize elephants is being blamed for a record spike in drug overdoses in the Midwest. Officials in Ohio have declared a public health emergency, and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration says communities everywhere should be on alert for carfentanil.[/FONT]
This should be good. Wonder if it's actually carfentanil. Maybe this will help show how harmful the war on drugs actually is.
If people could just buy heroin legally and shoot up in peace without the government breathing down their necks, none of this fentanyl overdose bullshit would be happening.[/SIZE] -
2016-09-03 at 7:09 PM UTCThe problem is that fentanyl is just so damn easy to make. The starting material can be obtained cheaply in 100kg quantities legally. If you are a badass chemist that is good at not dying from risky synthesis then there are a LOT of organized crime groups looking to hire you for top dollar. It's not like meth where they steal your synthesis and murder you because most people realize how dangerous this stuff is and they don't even want to be in the same room as it.
Heres how it works for an organized crime group and why they never stop when they start making fent
1. start growing weed and reselling drugs like coke, meth, heroin, benzos and psychedelics
2. use the weed growing profit to obtain property and start cooking crack and pressing pills
3. use the hard drug profits to start a methlab
4. use the methlab profits to get cars and property
5. buy a bunch of heroin and resell it
6. use the heroin profits to start a fent lab
7. start printing your own currency because a fent lab is better like owning a money tree -
2016-09-03 at 7:40 PM UTC
The problem is that fentanyl is just so damn easy to make. The starting material can be obtained cheaply in 100kg quantities legally. If you are a badass chemist that is good at not dying from risky synthesis then there are a LOT of organized crime groups looking to hire you for top dollar. It's not like meth where they steal your synthesis and murder you because most people realize how dangerous this stuff is and they don't even want to be in the same room as it.
Heres how it works for an organized crime group and why they never stop when they start making fent
1. start growing weed and reselling drugs like coke, meth, heroin, benzos and psychedelics
2. use the weed growing profit to obtain property and start cooking crack and pressing pills
3. use the hard drug profits to start a methlab
4. use the methlab profits to get cars and property
5. buy a bunch of heroin and resell it
6. use the heroin profits to start a fent lab
7. start printing your own currency because a fent lab is better like owning a money tree
I couldn't have something like that on my conscience. If I were to cook something up for resale purposes it would probably be racemorphan. -
2016-09-03 at 7:40 PM UTCOne of my mates got one of the fent analogues and sold it to a smack dealer. He sold it on, someone OD'd, I assume they didn't die but I fucking told him that was going to happen. They did get raided tho by the fuzz
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2016-09-03 at 7:56 PM UTC
One of my mates got one of the fent analogues and sold it to a smack dealer. He sold it on, someone OD'd, I assume they didn't die but I fucking told him that was going to happen. They did get raided tho by the fuzz
Lol, did the dealer tell the cops where he got it or did they raid him just for buying it or what? -
2016-09-03 at 8:38 PM UTCI'm not sure, all I know is someone OD'd out the front of where they live from it and the next day the house got raided and my mate and the smack dealer were searched. The smack dealer was arrested but my mate wasn't. I warned him it was a bad idea and someone would fuck up from it cos it's so strong
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2016-09-03 at 10:48 PM UTC
I'm not sure, all I know is someone OD'd out the front of where they live from it and the next day the house got raided and my mate and the smack dealer were searched. The smack dealer was arrested but my mate wasn't. I warned him it was a bad idea and someone would fuck up from it cos it's so strong
Damn.
Yeah, fent analogues are things that you keep to yourself at all times. -
2016-09-03 at 10:51 PM UTCI fucking told him so many times it was a bad idea. But no, he wouldn't listen. And he ended up nearly killing someone and getting strip searched for it. Worst thing about it? Nigga wouldn't even let me have a sample of it
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2016-09-03 at 11:14 PM UTCI don't see how conscious has anything to do with it. Its not like you discovered the A-bomb. Fentanyl has been around since the 80's. I don't trust OC 80's for shit these days..or at least Im not dumb enough to snort or eat one with zero tolerance when its probably 80mg morph equivalent of fent. The people that make fake 80s seem to know what they are doing and use IV soluable binders (unlike the actual manufacturers of oxy)
Its not really the manufacturers fault that some teenager eats one pill and gets drunk and does some coke and dies horribly, thats probably the dealers fault. Similar things have happened with pharmacy grade pills in the past.
I dont think anyone would disguise fent as heroin/oxy if opiates were legal because you could just sell 100mg stamps of fent as is or cut it and make scramble.
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2016-09-03 at 11:27 PM UTC
I don't see how conscious has anything to do with it. Its not like you discovered the A-bomb. Fentanyl has been around since the 80's. I don't trust OC 80's for shit these days..or at least Im not dumb enough to snort or eat one with zero tolerance when its probably 80mg morph equivalent of fent. The people that make fake 80s seem to know what they are doing and use IV soluable binders (unlike the actual manufacturers of oxy)
Its not really the manufacturers fault that some teenager eats one pill and gets drunk and does some coke and dies horribly, thats probably the dealers fault. Similar things have happened with pharmacy grade pills in the past.
I dont think anyone would disguise fent as heroin/oxy if opiates were legal because you could just sell 100mg stamps of fent as is or cut it and make scramble.
Because as the manufacturer I would know that dealers are going to be shitty. Knowing that and still going through with it would place some of the blame on me.
Diacetylmorphine and racemorphan are better and easier to make anyway -
2016-09-03 at 11:58 PM UTCI've sold fentanyl to responsible adults before its no big deal
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2016-09-05 at 2:15 PM UTCSo has anyone actually tried this shit? Sounds like it could be good if it is long-acting.
Edit: Never mind, whoever wrote that article is clinically retarded, apparently it only lasts slightly longer than fent. Not interested lolI've sold fentanyl to responsible adults before its no big deal
I guess I just don't know any "responsible adults." Responsible enough for that shit anyway. That and the fact that I have no interest in it myself means I've never attempted it. Doesn't sound like a hard synth.
I would like to try etorphine one day though -
2016-09-05 at 4:32 PM UTCYea these people weren't responsible adults. Nobody in the UK really knows what fentanyl is unless they spend time on sites like this. Mainly I just didn't want him getting in more trouble cos he's only just finished community service. He did get raided but cos he had nothing that was the end of it, I was trying to warn him that shits too strong for noobs to be shooting. I was trying to look out for him, but he made money and nothing else happen with the police so alls well that ends well, I guess
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2016-09-06 at 2:06 AM UTC4-fibf probably
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2016-09-06 at 6:09 PM UTCFuck you could probably just sell a potent poison to someone and when they die be like "oh well it was fentanyl". and keep all the fentanyl for yourself.
