To Putin or Not to Putin

2018-07-17 at 7:53 PM UTC

#101

itybit African Astronaut [daze my amino pe-tsai]

LOL

2018-07-17 at 10:26 PM UTC

#102

joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]

Originally posted by stl1 Excuse me, but haven't 4 of the last 6 Presidents (back to Reagan) been Republicans?

Reagan

Bush 1

Clinton

Bush 2

Obama

Dufus

Yes and all part of the dirty swamp in Washington controlled by the elite and globalists. Except Trump of course...overall an independent and one of the best presidents ever.

2018-07-17 at 10:30 PM UTC

#103

joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]

Difference between Archer "THE PATRIOT" and Stl1 "the patriot". Both men are placed deep in a jungle with wild animals including basic survival tools and told they have 48 hours to escape. Archer survives in reasonable time and Stl1 gets eaten by an alligater in the first hour. Lol.

2018-07-17 at 10:39 PM UTC

#104

Technologist victim of incest

Would and wouldn’t?

Yeah right, lol 😂

2018-07-18 at 2:57 AM UTC

#105

cupocheer Space Nigga [unwillingly condescend the dp]

Oh Lordy -- now the handlers are scrubbing the answers (transcript) of Putin and Trump in that press conference in Helsinki. Did they forget it was televised, videoed, streamed and broadcast live?

What a fkn bunch of retarded clowns in the White House.

2018-07-18 at 10:25 AM UTC

#106

Siouxsie_Q African Astronaut

2018-07-18 at 10:40 AM UTC

#107

RisiR † 29 Autism

Originally posted by Siouxsie_Q

Absolutely flawless execution of this hidden gem meme.

2018-07-18 at 12:39 PM UTC

#108

cupocheer Space Nigga [unwillingly condescend the dp]

Trump is Butthurt .. so docile .. Little Poot must have one hell of a package.

2018-07-18 at 1:04 PM UTC

#109

Siouxsie_Q African Astronaut

Originally posted by cupocheer .. Little Poot must have one hell of a package.

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2018-07-18 at 1:16 PM UTC

#110

aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition

Originally posted by Siouxsie_Q

the fact that he always appears so serious makes those goofy expressions even funnier

Originally posted by cupocheer Little Poot must have one hell of a package.

https://thesaker.is/the-president-of-russia-delivered-the-address-to-the-federal-assembly/

yep.

***posted wrong link

2018-07-18 at 1:17 PM UTC

#111

joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]

Originally posted by cupocheer Oh Lordy – now the handlers are scrubbing the answers (transcript) of Putin and Trump in that press conference in Helsinki. Did they forget it was televised, videoed, streamed and broadcast live?

What a fkn bunch of retarded clowns in the White House.

When are CNN, the NYT, WP, etc., going scrub all the lies and BS they told to the public in the last year...you're a bloody moron.

2018-07-18 at 1:41 PM UTC

#112

Siouxsie_Q African Astronaut

2018-07-18 at 5:03 PM UTC

#113

NARCassist gollums fat coach

Originally posted by Technologist Got a ? for ya? Could you live happily in Russia?

yeah i'd love to live in russia, it looks awesome. and some of them ruskie chicks? OMFG

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2018-07-18 at 5:08 PM UTC

#114

NARCassist gollums fat coach

Originally posted by joerell When are CNN, the NYT, WP, etc., going scrub all the lies and BS they told to the public in the last year…you're a bloody moron.

you really do love your beloved news media huh? they're like angels that can do no wrong in your eyes i'm sure, lol.

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2018-07-19 at 1:43 PM UTC

#115

Red_Woman African Astronaut

1. The 1964 Brazilian coup d'état

5) State Department, Secret Cable to Amb. Lincoln Gordon in Rio, March 31, 1964
Secretary of State Dean Rusk sends Gordon a list of the White House decisions "taken in order [to] be in a position to render assistance at appropriate time to anti-Goulart forces if it is decided this should be done." The decisions include sending US naval tankers loaded with petroleum, oil and lubricants from Aruba to Santos, Brazil; assembling 110 tons of ammunition and other equipment for pro-coup forces; and dispatching a naval brigade including an aircraft carrier, several destroyers and escorts to conduct be positioned off the coast of Brazil. Several hours later, a second cable is sent amending the number of ships, and dates they will be arriving off the coast.

6) CIA, Secret Memorandum of Conversation on "Meeting at the White House 1 April 1964 Subject-Brazil," April 1, 1964
This memorandum of conversation records a high level meeting, held in the White House, between President Johnson and his top national security aides on Brazil. CIA deputy chief of Western Hemisphere operations, Desmond Fitzgerald recorded the briefing given to Johnson and the discussion on the progress of the coup. Defense Secretary reported on the movements of the naval task force sailing towad Brazil, and the arms and ammunition being assembled in New Jersey to resupply the coup plotters if necessary.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB118/index.htm#docs
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v31/d198

The operational files of the CIA remain classified still today.

2. 1953 Iranian coup d'état
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB126/iran980600.pdf
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/19/cia-admits-it-was-behind-irans-coup/
http://iran.sa.utoronto.ca/coup/web_files/markcoup.html
https://www.webcitation.org/5hOKk6ByB?url=http://web.payk.net/politics/cia-docs/published/one-main/main.html

3. Guatemalan coup d'état 1954
Code-named Operation PBSUCCESS, the first in a series of U.S.-backed authoritarian rulers in Guatemala. Nearly four decades of civil war followed, inlcuding the genocide of the Maya people.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/index.html
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB32/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/11/world/clinton-offers-his-apologies-to-guatemala.html
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1741-5705.2006.00282.x
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/cia-guatemala5_b.html
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/docs/doc01.pdf
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/19971017.htm

4. Salvadoran Civil War from 79-92 - USA contributed to the conflict by providing large amounts of military aid to the government of El Salvador during the Carter and Reagan administrations. By 1983, US officers took over positions in the top levels of the Salvadoran military, and were running the war.
http://ucdp.uu.se/#country/92
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/search/node/El%20salvador

5. Chile 1970-1973
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20000817/index.html
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/latin_america/chile.htm
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20000817/07-01.htm

6. Argentina's Dirty War
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB185/index.htm
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB133/index.htm
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB73/

Americans can now read for themselves some of the noxious lessons the United States Army taught to thousands of Latin American military and police officers at the School of the Americas during the 1980's. A training manual recently released by the Pentagon recommended interrogation techniques like torture, execution, blackmail and arresting the relatives of those being questioned.
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/28/opinion/school-of-the-dictators.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20080830014629/http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/teaching-torture/1495/
https://web.archive.org/web/20170913215702/http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestoryamericas/2012/09/201292081054585410.html

U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice vowed that Obama would "announce a comprehensive effort to declassify additional documents, including for the first time military and intelligence records … to underscore our shared commitment to human rights."
This is fine rhetoric, but whether the U.S. plans to declassify truly meaningful information that will hold the guilty accountable remains to be seen.
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/26/opinions/obama-argentina-dirty-war-andersen/index.html

As far as I know, there are still a lot of CIA classified documentation on the subject.

7. Cuban Project (aka Operation Mongoose), Bay of Pigs and all the assassination attempts from Fidel Castro to Patrice Lumumba, and other foreign leaders.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32112745.pdf
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20000817/08-01.htm
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB157/index.htm

8. Iraq 1997-2004
http://proquest.libguides.com/dnsa/iraq97

I could go on and on. Syrian coup d'état 1949; CIA Tibetan program 51-56; Indonesia 57-58; The Bangkok Plot 1959; Bolivian coup d'état in 1961 and 1971; Ghana coup d'état inn 1966; Cambodian coup in 1970; Afghanistan 1979-1989; Angola 1980-1992; Nicaragua 81-87; Chad 1982; Haiti 1991 and 2004;Iraq 1996; Serbia 2000; Syria 2011-2017 (Timber Sycamore, a classified weapons supply and training program run by the CIA).

- "Family jediels" Memorandum to the CIA management committee, on the activities conducted by or under the sponsorship of the Office of Security, May 1973
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/family_jediels_full_ocr.pdf

- Digital National Security Archive (DNSA): CIA Covert Operations III: From Kennedy to Nixon, 1961-1974
https://proquest.libguides.com/dnsa/cia3

Also, check Operation Gladio (stay-behind) in NATO countries. Their activities and the CIA involvement in it.

Ah, and let me know when/if/how the USA will be held accountable for all this.

No hurry. I'm not holding my breath.

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2018-07-19 at 2:41 PM UTC

#116

aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition

the hand-written notes in the KUBARK manual are pretty funny in a dark sort of way

"do not threaten to kill a prisoner, because if they do not comply it will be seen as an empty threat, in which case you must enact it"

last part scribbled out, written underneath

"DO NOT DO THIS IT'S ILLEGAL"

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Red_Woman

2018-07-19 at 4:16 PM UTC

#117

joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]

Where is the NIS coup.

2018-07-19 at 4:43 PM UTC

#118

Red_Woman African Astronaut

International Law and USA.

United States relationship with the International Court of Justice.

Since 1946, the United States has had an uneasy relationship with the International Court of Justice (ICJ or World Court or Court). On the one hand, the United States embraces the rule of law within its own society and, in principle, within the international system of states. The United States has been and remains an active participant in cases before the Court, appearing before it several times, more than any other state, even in recent years. On the other hand, the United States has never been willing to submit itself to the plenary authority of the Court, and has typically reacted negatively to decisions by the Court that are adverse to U.S. interests. As is well known, in reaction to decisions that were reached by the Court, the United States refused to participate in the proceedings on the merits of the case brought by Nicaragua in 1984, withdrew from the Court’s compulsory jurisdiction in 1986, and recently terminated its acceptance of the Court’s jurisdiction over disputes arising under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations.

The belief in the sovereign equality of all states is a fundamental principle of U.S. engagement in the international system. The international legal system, which the United States has done much to promote, is constructed around the concept of “the state”, and the concept of all states having the same fundamental rights and obligations as an incident of their statehood. As asserted in the General Assembly’s famous Declaration on Principles of International Law:….

The United States accepts that in the plenary bodies of international organizations, and at international negotiations of new treaties, tiny states in terms of territory or population (such as Nauru) are entitled to the same formal status as behemoths (such as China).
At the same time, the conflicting vision of American exceptionalism pushes back against such notions of equality. Thus, in constructing a U.N. Security Council, the United States should be a permanent member with special rights and privileges that protect it from Security Councilaction. When establishing a World Bank or International Monetary Fund, a weighted voting system should be created that protects U.S. influence in the development of international economic policy. More recently, when creating international criminal tribunals, those that are focused on a particular country (e.g. Lebanon, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, or the former Yugoslavia) are acceptable, but an International Criminal Court is not unless the United States has an ability to preclude prosecution of its nationals. In other words, this antinomy notes the conflict between a vision of international law and institutions in which all states participate as equal sovereigns, and a vision of exceptionalism by which the United States habitually reaches for policies and
structures that it alone controls, or that applies generally to states but not to itself.

A second antinomy of significance arises from the conflict between accepting an international system fundamentally predicated on the equality of all states, and, at the same time, insisting (formally and informally) upon special prerogatives for major powers, most the United States itself. While there are links with the “realism” line of thinking discussed above, exceptionalism is a somewhat different concept, in that whether a realism or institutionalism outlook is taken, the United States is often captivated by a belief that it simply should not be treated just like every other state.

https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1902&context=faculty_publications

Military and Paramilitary Activities in and against Nicaragua (Nicaragua v. United States of America) 1986

On 9 April 1984, Nicaragua filed an Application instituting proceedings against the United States of America concerning a dispute relating to responsibility for military and paramilitary activities in and against Nicaragua. One of the measures required the United States to immediately cease and refrain from any action restricting access to Nicaraguan ports, and, in particular, the laying of mines. On 18 January 1985, the United States announced that it intended not to participate in any further proceedings relating to this case.

In its Judgment of 27 June 1986, the Court rejected the justification of collective self-defence advanced by the United States and stated that it had violated the obligations imposed by customary international law not to intervene in the affairs of another State. The Court also found that the United States had violated certain obligations arising from a bilateral Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation of 1956 and that it must make reparation for all injury caused. The amount of that reparation was to be fixed in subsequent proceedings. In March 1988, the United States maintained its refusal to take part in the case. In September 1991, Nicaragua informed the Court that it did not wish to continue the proceedings. The case was removed from the Court’s List.

http://www.icj-cij.org/files/case-related/70/070-19860627-JUD-01-00-EN.pdf
http://www.icj-cij.org/en/case/70/judgments
http://www.haguejusticeportal.net/index.php?id=6245
https://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/41/a41r031.htm
http://repository.un.org/handle/11176/163990
http://www.refworld.org/cases,ICJ,4023a44d2.html

Yeah, let's hold super powers accountable for meddling in the affairs of other states. For waging wars, coup d'état and breaking all international conventions. How? Who the hell cares?!

Important thing is to get on your high horse and shout, pointing fingers at others. But never hold yourself to your own best standarts.
Oh the nerves and the hypocrisy.

2018-07-19 at 4:45 PM UTC

#119

itybit African Astronaut [daze my amino pe-tsai]

It happens on both sides of the aisle here Alba

How are you hon?

2018-07-19 at 4:58 PM UTC

#120

Red_Woman African Astronaut

Originally posted by itybit It happens on both sides of the aisle here Alba

How are you hon?

Everywhere my dear, everywhere.

I'm good. How have you been? I wish I could chat with you more often.

I have looked for Westy on Zocalo as well, but no signs of him. Sigh.

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