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WTF is going on with Trump
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2018-04-11 at 11:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox I wonder if it was rigged from the beginning or if he legitimately tried to fix shit but was blackmailed into falling in line
You arrive in to work, you're scared, its a big job, and you spend 10 hours a day having people "advise" you what to do. Of course all the advise is tilted - what's good for Israel, what's good for the banks, what's good for Washington. And your advisors disagree 100 different ways about these things.
It's like the joke 2 jedis, 3 opinions. But all 3 opinions are going to be about what's best for the jedis.
On the other hand who do the goyim tax-cattle have to look out for them? No one. That's why we lose, and it's why we're always going to lose.
They kinda deserve it though for being so dumb. 2 goys, 1 opinion, and it's not about what's best for the goys.
People want 3 things:
1 a social safety net
2 higher wages
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2018-04-11 at 12:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I get the impression that he had no idea what he was really in for. When he was campaigning, he was basically just riding popular opinion among his base, when he was sworn in he was put under immense pressure from 'special interest groups' that he likely didn't expect and was forced to fold hard because he had no idea how to fight back
What kind of special interest groups? I thought they wouldn't come into play because he funded his own campaign
I always thought he got blackmailed with his family or a fukushima-style nuclear blackmail ie "you do/do not do this or all these people/your family will die" or he was just one of them from the start. He definitely used to be one of them. -
2018-04-11 at 12:11 PM UTCThey weren't able to interfere with his campaign because he self-funded, but did you really think they wouldn't get to him once he was in government?
It's not just the jedis, even though a lot of people treat 'special interest groups' as a euphemism for such, but they do have far too much control over policy through apparatus' like AIPAC. I'm talking more generally, rich and powerful people who stand to benefit from the status quo - military contractors who rely on unending war to profit, representatives of government agencies that need to invent enemies to justify their already-bloated budgets, multinational corporations that use military actions as a battering ram to open markets... There are a lot of powerful people who do not want to 'Make America Great Again' in any sense.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-04-11 at 12:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra They weren't able to interfere with his campaign because he self-funded, but did you really think they wouldn't get to him once he was in government?
It's not just the jedis, even though a lot of people treat 'special interest groups' as a euphemism for such, but they do have far too much control over policy through apparatus' like AIPAC. I'm talking more generally, rich and powerful people who stand to benefit from the status quo - military contractors who rely on unending war to profit, representatives of government agencies that need to invent enemies to justify their already-bloated budgets, multinational corporations that use military actions as a battering ram to open markets… There are a lot of powerful people who do not want to 'Make America Great Again' in any sense.
You know a lot more about this kinda stuff than I do so this probably sounds pretty stupid,
but if he refuses to give in to their demands, what's the worst that they can do? I know in most legislative situations they could just sway the rest of Congress, but the president is supposed to be in charge of military matters as commander in chief, right?
Maybe he's just totally clueless about the situation over there and the people he's trusting for intel are screwing us for their own personal benefit
Then again we've now got military commanders standing up at UN meetings talking about how it's their "constitutional right" to disobey a presidential order so it's probably just completely out of his control -
2018-04-11 at 12:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox I wonder if it was rigged from the beginning or if he legitimately tried to fix shit but was blackmailed into falling in line
lolwut? of course its rigged, western democracy has been rigged since the day it was implemented. its the media that decides who wins the election and its the same media that controls whoever they decide to give the presidency to. whoever is made president will be fully aware that if he doesn't keep the media moguls happy then they can destroy him and his career/future with just one headline, that's all it takes and is a very powerful tool.
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2018-04-11 at 12:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by GasTheKikesRaceWarNow You arrive in to work, you're scared, its a big job, and you spend 10 hours a day having people "advise" you what to do. Of course all the advise is tilted - what's good for Israel, what's good for the banks, what's good for Washington. And your advisors disagree 100 different ways about these things.
It's like the joke 2 jedis, 3 opinions. But all 3 opinions are going to be about what's best for the jedis.
On the other hand who do the goyim tax-cattle have to look out for them? No one. That's why we lose, and it's why we're always going to lose.
They kinda deserve it though for being so dumb. 2 goys, 1 opinion, and it's not about what's best for the goys.
People want 3 things:
1 a social safety net
2 higher wages
3 no immigrants
the people want whatever the media tells them they want.
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2018-04-11 at 12:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist lolwut? of course its rigged, western democracy has been rigged since the day it was implemented. its the media that decides who wins the election and its the same media that controls whoever they decide to give the presidency to. whoever is made president will be fully aware that if he doesn't keep the media moguls happy then they can destroy him and his career/future with just one headline, that's all it takes and is a very powerful tool.
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I don't know, all mainstream media outlets except fox news (and even they had a lot of negative things to say) came out very strongly against trump from the beginning of the campaign and he still won
I think the majority of Americans are finally starting to realize that the tv is not their friend, it sure took them long enough -
2018-04-11 at 12:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox I don't know, all mainstream media outlets except fox news (and even they had a lot of negative things to say) came out very strongly against trump from the beginning of the campaign and he still won
I think the majority of Americans are finally starting to realize that the tv is not their friend, it sure took them long enough
these media people have been playing this game for a very long time, they are masters at manipulation and making you think what they want you to and not even realize what they are doing.
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2018-04-11 at 1:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox You know a lot more about this kinda stuff than I do so this probably sounds pretty stupid,
but if he refuses to give in to their demands, what's the worst that they can do? I know in most legislative situations they could just sway the rest of Congress, but the president is supposed to be in charge of military matters as commander in chief, right?
Maybe he's just totally clueless about the situation over there and the people he's trusting for intel are screwing us for their own personal benefit
Then again we've now got military commanders standing up at UN meetings talking about how it's their "constitutional right" to disobey a presidential order so it's probably just completely out of his control
just quickly think about this - for all the different presidents and shifts of power between the two major parties the US has had since WWII, does it seem strange to you that the country's trajectory, specifically in terms of foreign policy, hasn't changed much at all?
The president doesn't really have as much power as most people think - executive orders are a thing, but if he ruled exclusively through those he'd rightly be called a dictator and would likely have his legitimacy challenged.
Political power in 'liberal democracy' comes from financial power. Trump sort of upset the apple cart by funding his own campaign; powerful (see: backed by big business) political groups have typically been able to control who runs and what message they deliver by buying them out. What happened to Sanders is a pretty good example - he couldn't have reasonably run as an independent to begin with; independents are not invited to presidential debates and get very little media attention. His only real option was to sign up with the Democrats, and when his platform crossed party lines, they gave him the shaft, even though he represented their best chance at the presidency.
The same thing happens in all levels of government. 'Lobby groups' spend money to bring politicians on their side and work to grant them recognition and power, furthering their careers as long as they tow the 'party line', and when they don't, it's not uncommon for their careers to be ended by well-publicised scandals.
The people that 'control' the president and upper-echelons of government have near-unlimited resources - sure it's possible he could be assassinated or his family threatened, but that's an extreme last line. It'd be much easier to manipulate him through pride, greed, assorted desires, guilt, any number of human weaknesses.
To give a specific example, my reading of the current situation of possible strikes on Syria is that he's being fed information that Assad is ABSOLUTELY slaughtering civilians, that Russia is shielding him and helping build Iran as a regional hegemon, and that asking for further information is questioning the 'brave men and women of our intelligence agencies' - he's encouraged to lash out and talk shit about 'Animal Assad' because he then has to follow through with action or risk 'looking weak', he's assured.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-04-11 at 2:39 PM UTC
Trump clearly hates Washington and being there. I've never been there but the place is clearly a pit of snakes - or worse, bug-men, and when you have a group of people like that all convened together you get a sort of hive-mind going.
What he liked is going around giving speeches about what he would do, or hamming it up for the crowd for the wrestling.
Not too many of the sort of people who watch wrestling in the Whitehouse. Just a bunch of soibois (word-enhancement that Lanny) and politic nerds (the lowest form of nerd).
I hear he goes to his home in Florida whenever he can. -
2018-04-11 at 6:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovery No, he won't. I've never seen a president so universally mocked and abhorred, even by those who initially supported him, not to mention the insane amounts of controversy around him. And not just making fun of disabled people. The fucker is almost proven to have colluded with Russia. Even if that miraculously ends up being disproven (pretty much impossible at this point), the damage is done and completely irreparable by now even for his most hardcore supporters.
The real problem is that the next guy will likely end up being even crazier and stupider.
All wrong. His approval rating is over 40%, similar to most of Obama's second term. Support from his base is unwavering despite all the scandals. The Russia investigation is a witch hunt and zero concrete evidence of collusion has turned up. You've been brainwashed by left wing media.
No president in recent US history has lost reelection during a period of economic growth, so if the market doesn't crash before then he'll most likely win in 2020. People vote with their wallets, plus infighting between the neoliberal/berniebro/idpol factions of the democratic party will seriously harm their chances of running a candidate who can challenge Trump. -
2018-04-11 at 7:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I get the impression that he had no idea what he was really in for. When he was campaigning, he was basically just riding popular opinion among his base, when he was sworn in he was put under immense pressure from 'special interest groups' that he likely didn't expect and was forced to fold hard because he had no idea how to fight back
like i siad, the swamp that he said hell drain had drained him instead.
not 3days after he said hes pulling out os syria chemicals happened. -
2018-04-11 at 7:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox You know a lot more about this kinda stuff than I do so this probably sounds pretty stupid,
but if he refuses to give in to their demands, what's the worst that they can do? I know in most legislative situations they could just sway the rest of Congress, but the president is supposed to be in charge of military matters as commander in chief, right?
Maybe he's just totally clueless about the situation over there and the people he's trusting for intel are screwing us for their own personal benefit
Then again we've now got military commanders standing up at UN meetings talking about how it's their "constitutional right" to disobey a presidential order so it's probably just completely out of his control
being president is just like being a king or queen in your country ; on a leash. -
2018-04-11 at 7:07 PM UTC
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2018-04-11 at 7:08 PM UTCits 4d chess bromo, he's got this.
if you really wanted a good president you'd elect me and have me gaurded at all times by guards that gaurd my friends that advise me. I'm not corrupt at all and I'm a man of the people -
2018-04-11 at 7:09 PM UTCits 4d chess bromo, he's got this.
if you really wanted a good president you'd elect me and have me gaurded at all times by guards that gaurd my friends that advise me. I'm not corrupt at all and I'm a man of the people
Originally posted by aldra I get the impression that he had no idea what he was really in for. When he was campaigning, he was basically just riding popular opinion among his base, when he was sworn in he was put under immense pressure from 'special interest groups' that he likely didn't expect and was forced to fold hard because he had no idea how to fight back
I honestly wonder why no one told him about this prior. he had years to prepare for this. -
2018-04-11 at 8:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra How dare he try to mount a deterrent against the country that bombed north korea literally until there was "nothing left to bomb", then used biowarfare tricks they learned from absorbing Unit 731 when China finally forced them out. That's not even touching on the annual 'military exercises' aimed at destroying NK AGAIN and specifically timed to interfere with their rice harvests.
NK has been willing to negotiate with the US, but the US has never been willing to negotiate, only make demands.
This guy is threatening the pacific and pacific coast line. You're down under not giving fucks about waking up inside a virtual lightbulb like the moths that make their way inside. You're a young caterpillar hoping the bird grabs your fellow species.
this fucking analogy isn't going anywhere. I quit you aussie bastard >:[ -
2018-04-11 at 8:06 PM UTC
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2018-04-11 at 8:07 PM UTC
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2018-04-11 at 8:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by BeigeWarlock This guy is threatening the pacific and pacific coast line. You're down under not giving fucks about waking up inside a virtual lightbulb like the moths that make their way inside. You're a young caterpillar hoping the bird grabs your fellow species.
this fucking analogy isn't going anywhere. I quit you aussie bastard >:[
I can threaten to nuke the whole world all I want, that doesn't mean I actually have the power to do it
