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  1. Originally posted by Nil so its settled then morality is mere social convention and not based in truth but what some people define as right.

    alright bois, it's a wrap.

    preached by the betas and practiced by the betas.
  2. Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by Nil so its settled then morality is mere social convention and not based in truth but what some people define as right.

    alright bois, it's a wrap.

    Wrong morality is purely an individual choice. Ethics are an agreed upon social convention among like minded people engaged in a cohesive group within a society.
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  3. Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    shut the fuck up speedy, you dense piece of shit.
  4. Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by Nil shut the fuck up speedy, you dense piece of shit.

    Try picking up a dictionary.
  5. Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    mo·ral·i·ty
    /məˈralədē/
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    noun
    noun: morality

    principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
    synonyms: ethics, rights and wrongs, correctness, ethicality More
    "the morality of the possession of nuclear weapons"
    virtue, goodness, good behavior, righteousness, rectitude, uprightness;
    morals, principles, honesty, integrity, propriety, honor, justice, fair play, justness, decency, probity, chasteness, chastity, purity, blamelessness
    "the past few years have seen a sharp decline in morality"
    moral standards, morals, moral code, ethics, principles of right and wrong, rules of conduct, standards/principles of behavior, ethos, mores, standards, ideals
    "orthodox Christian morality"
    antonyms: immorality
    a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.
  6. Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Nil I never said money wasn't "real", it's just that if one person says you're reprehensible it's about as valid to me if 100,000 say it. Yes you will reap the consequences but they're not right just more numerous.

    It doesn't matter how many people say it, just whether or not it can be resolved logically. The same as money..
  7. Originally posted by Nil
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny —————–In memory of Jim "fuck latino" Carrey—————–

    Seeing that as of late the word 'morality' has been everybody's favourite, even surpassing the word faggot in its usage, from being politely served on a silver platter by scantily claded Siamese ladyboys, to it being violently flung around by apes and barbarians and especially those barbarian apes,

    morality it seems, has become all the rage in this part of the internet unterbelly. And yet, yet it seems like everyone that used the word have not the faintest idea of what it is, are, or what the word means.

    This is tragic and this tragic tragedy which afflicts this place I shall now end; for I feel morally obligated to do so for the betterment of humanity. No further ado.

    IN THE BEGINNING

    Long before history, long before homosapiens and even longer before homosapiens discover homosexuality, at the beginning of time when disorganized organism began to organize themselves into a something with a semblance of social order, there began a something which had hitherto until then had yet have a name.

    A thing with which we now have a name for and it's what we called Álpha-bet. A thing of Álphas, and betas.

    Now as most of you who are well versed in Álpha-bet, that is to say the dynamics between Álphas and betas may have already known, betaness and betadoom aren't a something that is perpetual, that they wax and they wane according to the surge of time and the ebb of age, like your presidents and elected representives, they came, they stayed, and they went.

    Ditto is then with Álphas and betas, a beta will in due time grow up and rise to the occasion to challenge and then depose the current Álpha in place, but will then after a certain period of time grow old and weak and sink back to the lower, beta plane from whence it came from when it was juvenile, to be replace by another beta that had risen up into the rank of Álphahood.

    But what does all these have anything to do with morality, or Mike Pence for that matter you might ask … to this my answer is

    clench your teeth and grab your ankles hard for the answer will come to you in another few inches.

    As you all may have already known, elections are good and democracy is great, but as good as ellections are and great as democracy is …. we can't have elections all day and evry day as that will not only be counter productive and costly, it is also dangerous in such a way that it will render democracy into something much, much worse than africcans' perpetual cycle of 'revolutions', a never ending cycle of replacing old dictators with a new one.

    Now, the same thing it is with Álpha-bets, the Álpha-beta dynamics. Just as we can't have ellections evry day or every week as that will grind the government to a screeching halt, socialized animals too can't have Álpha-beta competitions all day evry day as that will also screech their food procurement to a grinding halt.

    So in the mean time, in the time between Álpha-beta competitions, the betas of that society will have to find a way to co-exist along side the Álpha in a conflict-free and productive way for the greater good of that specific society and long term survival of that particular species as a whole.

    And it was in this void that it came to being :

    THE HERD MENTALITY.

    Now obviously in order to be able to co-exist peacefully along side the Álpha of the pack and to avoid potential conflicts, the herd of betas would need to have a very different set of mentality from the Álpha,

    the beta herd as a collective would have to be very subserving, docile, pacifist, and effeminated. Pussies according to contemporary, physiologically accurate nomenclature. And over time, over the course of generations and after tedious processes of natural selection, this set of beta sub-behavior eventually became permanently encoded into the DNA, and thus became ingrained into our psyche and our sub-consciousness.

    And eversince humanity became civilized and literated, this herd mentality began to beget many a names.

    Of one, they call it Morallity.

    THE ORIGIN OF MORALITY

    With the advent of writtings humanity, the beta herd, like their Álpha lords, began to record and store all the knowledges they've acquired over their life time into a retrieveable format, knowledges that the beta herd thought to be useful, important, or paramount to their collective wellbeing, security or even as far as their very existence are concerned.

    In the begining, these were nothing more than personal notes, ramblings and musings, advisories, reminders, and simple warnings to other fellow betas on how not to behave, but over time, and over the generations these simple writtings eventually morph into more sophisticated fables and allegories, before finally metamorphosising into compendiums of biblical length and scope of what is and is not virtue.

    But these great volumes of beta herd's literary works were not of the same as those produced by the Álphas that dealt mainly with manly wars and grotesque conquests and the glorification of rapes and pillages. Far from it, as had been pointed out earlier, the beta herd, due to the codes in their DNA, were inherently predisposed towards pussyficism. They instinctively revel in the partaking of beta-oriented herd activities just as birds instinctively make nests from weeds and spiders weave nets with their asses;

    Thus the entire collection of literary works of these betamenschen contained nothing but the glorification of pussificism, the preaching and the propagation of beta traits like cowardism-for-the-greater-good, unrestrained tollerance, surrenderism, over empathy with and for the victims, strong aversion towards pain and suffering of other humans and animals alike, the unquenchable desire for compliance and conformity, but above all, the desire to be a proud member of a collective body, The Herd. To belong.

    As the beta herd were living in a society which the Álphas have built, it's only natural for their vast compendiums of virtue to end up in the possession of Álphas. And due to the beta herd's inherent betaness in everything they do, literary endeavours included, it's only natural that these vast compendiums of virtues churned out by the beta herd had little impact upon the the society at large, even amongst their own in the beta herd, so in the end, these great collections of beta literatures remained inert, impotent, and forgoten; sitting there and gathering medieval dusts in obscure corners of the libraries with which the Álphas have built with the proceeds of wars and the slave labors of the conquered. And it was here that a strange twist of fate occured that will forever change the course of humanity.

    BY THE ÁLPHAS, FOR THE bETAS.

    Somehow and somewhere, as if per fate or per chance, the inert and ever impotent books of beta Virtue finally caught the attention of an Álpha. Fueled by raging curiosity, the Álpha studied these vast literature of betadoom intensely and in great detail; and what he read shook him to the very core of his foundational beliefs. How could a significant portion of the populace, people around him that he meets and interacts everyday, live by such pussified worldview ? He investigated further.

    The Álphas needless to say, have a mentality that is fully the opposite, completely different and entirely foreign to these beta menschen. The Values and Virtues preached by these beta menschen thru their beta literatures went against everything that the Álpha stood for and held true. All these nonsences enraged him verily.

    But instead of opposing these abominable beta ideologies, after long and careful deliberation with himself, the Álpha, realizing the potential power of these beta herds' sentiments and the usefulness of this beta herd mentality in the service of protecting and maintaining the current Álpha-beta status quo, did not only decided to tollerate these beta-worldviews, but had taken a step further by becoming himself the champion and high priest of the betamenschen's beta creed.

    In prehistoria, the Álphas of a society would have to constantly flash their teeth, wave their fists and brandish their clubs as means to keep the beta herds in line, and to remind them of where everybody was in the pecking order. The betas of course, upon receiving the stimuli of violence and potential conflict, cowed with fear and instinctively became docile and subserving, and ever tollerant.

    But thanks to the advent of literacy and written language, the Álphas of the modern day are having it much more easier. They needed only to simply retreat to their study room, or bedroom, or the patio, wherever they feel comfortable, and by means of an i-nkhorn or a quill or an i-mac, weave and forge all the beta sentiments which they have harvested from the field of beta literature and out comes the magical codes of conducts that will keep the beta herds perpetually in line and perpetually subservient.

    The Álphas, bestowed with their natural ability to lead and endowed with great literary prowess, achieved this task with relative ease and just like that, millions of betas were swayed.

    After all, what the Álpha preached as virtues and moralities (appropriate herd behavior) were not a something that were entirely new or foreign to the beta herds, for these beta sentiments were already ever-present deep in the hearts and minds of the beta masses. And now that their inherent, hitherto supressed betaness had not only been validated by the Álphas, but vindicated even, the repressed betas stormed out of their closet they've been hiding in all these while by the millions !

    And just like that, an entirely new genre of mob appeared out of thin air, coalesced, condensed and crystalized before our very eyes and replaced the mob that came before it;

    The Beta Bolshevik is now here.

    And without any ado, the beta bolshevik as the new mob in town began to take hold and shape the society that they have just taken over. But unlike the previous mob that was a mob of betas ruled directly by a few Álphas at the top, the new beta bolshevick is made up entirely and exclusively of beta menchens that self-police and self-regulate according to all the principles, criterias and advisories that the Álpha menshevicks had laid out for them.

    The beta bolshevicks did these not because they have an or any affinity for the Álpha menshevick, for they aren't even aware that the Álpha menshevick exists, but rather out of their own propensity for peace and stability as a collective entity, the herd, and to the best of their beta knowledges, the only way to achieve that is by adhering to every and all the teachings and principals laid out for them by the Álphas and the literatutes they have created.

    And these sets of rigid doctorines and values with which the beta bolshevicks regulate and police themselves with,

    Morality is what it is known.

    The approved behavior of the herd is what it is.

    fixed
  8. Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator It doesn't matter how many people say it, just whether or not it can be resolved logically. The same as money..

    just because you can reduce your conduct to a logically consistent formalism doesn't give it anymore legitimacy then a thou shalt or an I want. Where does good fit in "if p then not t?" in matters of conduct you can swap the results and the mirror would be just as consistent.
  9. Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Nil just because you can reduce your conduct to a logically consistent formalism doesn't give it anymore legitimacy then a thou shalt or an I want. Where does good fit in "if p then not t?" in matters of conduct you can swap the results and the mirror would be just as consistent.

    It only needs the legitimacy of all parties involved having any set of moral premises (even if it is to be completely immoral). What EVER you use to determine how you "ought" behave, can be resolved.
  10. Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator It only needs the legitimacy of all parties involved having any set of moral premises (even if it is to be completely immoral). What EVER you use to determine how you "ought" behave, can be resolved.

    Then why bother?
  11. Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Nil Then why bother?

    Because it's what everyone involved deems worth bothering with?
  12. GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    You should all kill yourselves.
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  13. Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by Nil

    https://www.diffen.com/difference/Ethics_vs_Morals
  14. Originally posted by benny vader yea … but theres nothing natural, apex or beta about obese niggers and faggots consuming a fuck ton of factory made ground beef of cow and non-cow origins and reconstituted chickens substrates.

    nothing.

    if anything its carnality against the order of nature.

    you want to be a natures apex predator ???

    take off your clothes and your vietnamese made bomber jacket, make yourself some spear and go into your british woods and hunt yourself some british meats.

    Definitely Benny/Vinny's best post
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  15. Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Jυicebox Definitely Benny/Vinny's best post

    What a faggot, we are apex because society is awesome, I have a dedicated fucker killer who always kills their ass for me.
  16. It was still a hilarious post though
  17. WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by gadzooks Wut?

    I'm basically saying the exact opposite.

    I truly believe in the legal principle that everyone should have the right to a fair trial.

    I could actually see myself being a criminal defense attorney for that exact reason.

    Very few people have the constitution for it though because they would feel morally conflicted about representing someone whom they believe to be guilty of some especially heinous crime.

    My point was that, while I may believe my client to be guilty, and I may find their actions to be morally condemnable, I am still not betraying my own ethical or moral principles within this particular scope of morality.

    Thus, morality and ethics are still one and the same concept.

    The 1st time I Google it... and this is what I get...
    Ethics vs. Morals. ... While they are sometimes used interchangeably, they are different: ethics refer to rules provided by an external source, e.g., codes of conduct in workplaces or principles in religions. Morals refer to an individual's own principles regarding right and wrong.

    At least put in some effort, if you're gonna be wrong. They are different. If they were the same fuckin concept... you wouldnt need 2 different words for them.
  18. WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by Nil shut the fuck up speedy, you dense piece of shit.

    Ur another stupid person, apparently. Didn't even bother to Google it yourself, to see that ur wrong. Retard.
  19. WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Wrong morality is purely an individual choice. Ethics are an agreed upon social convention among like minded people engaged in a cohesive group within a society.

    The troll actually said something truthful, for a change. Good job Speedy.
  20. Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by WellHung The troll actually said something truthful, for a change. Good job Speedy.

    Everything I say is true. It's only trolling when it's true and pisses someone off.
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