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2017-06-18 at 6:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL But when they use government agents as doppelgangers, then the agents can milk the press and their gullible audiences for public sympathy for their illegal gun bans, posing as distressed parents for maximum return for years after. The agent will be on TV right away and cry and everyone else will have a big cry, and then the sheeple fall right into line all the more easily to have their rights and liberties and freedoms robbed from them. It's an information war, and they know it, and we know it.
still way easier and more discreet to choose a 'lone gunman', drug/hypnotize/brainwash/suggest him, and then let the real parents milk the press with genuine outpourings of grief and garner public sympathy for the gun bans. that way is far cheaper and the only weak link in the chain is dead.
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2017-06-18 at 6:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist still way easier and more discreet to choose a 'lone gunman', drug/hypnotize/brainwash/suggest him, and then let the real parents milk the press with genuine outpourings of grief and garner public sympathy for the gun bans. that way is far cheaper and the only weak link in the chain is dead.
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This is what seems to have happened with the San Bernardino shooter and probably Dylan Storm Roof or whatever his name was -
2017-06-18 at 6:41 AM UTCthe amount of actors speckies method would involve would cost a fortune and you'd only need one to decide to go all 'edward snowden' and you'd be seriously fucked. that shit would topple a whole civilisation.
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2017-06-18 at 6:43 AM UTCi know if i was one of those actors i would be thinking how much i could make if i wrote a book. so you'd have to pay them tens of millions to keep that quiet.
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2017-06-18 at 12:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist the amount of actors speckies method would involve would cost a fortune and you'd only need one to decide to go all 'edward snowden' and you'd be seriously fucked. that shit would topple a whole civilisation.
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No, people will do almost anything for even $50/day. People have no pride today. As long as it's money, they'll work for peanuts no problem. If one won't, the next one will. -
2017-06-18 at 12:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL No, people will do almost anything for even $50/day. People have no pride today. As long as it's money, they'll work for peanuts no problem. If one won't, the next one will.
people like that would most definitely sell the story. for people who can exercise absolute discretion, that costs literally millions. for something of this magnitude at least.
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2017-06-18 at 12:52 PM UTCjust accept your argument has been completely and utterly annihilated here.
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2017-06-18 at 1:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist people like that would most definitely sell the story. for people who can exercise absolute discretion, that costs literally millions. for something of this magnitude at least.
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Pretty much this. The government could just fucking pass stricter gun control laws themselves, they happen to be the ones who MAKE THE FUCKING LAW. I don't think it's feasible to spend millions of dollars, repeatedly, on multiple false flag shooting involving needing to trust hundreds of random people, when they could simply avert all of that nonsense and pay off the president to just write-up some stricter gun control.
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2017-06-18 at 1:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Pretty much this. The government could just fucking pass stricter gun control laws themselves, they happen to be the ones who MAKE THE FUCKING LAW. I don't think it's feasible to spend millions of dollars, repeatedly, on multiple false flag shooting involving needing to trust hundreds of random people, when they could simply avert all of that nonsense and pay off the president to just write-up some stricter gun control.
Maybe it's fun to entertain the thought of these elaborate hoaxes, but it's just thst- entertainment.
well they do want to win elections still, but they're prolly not gonna risk the gas chamber doing it. if they did then they're gonna be way smarter than to trust their entire fate to a whole bunch of actors. you'd wanna make damn sure you got all your loose ends tied up.
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2017-06-18 at 1:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist people like that would most definitely sell the story. for people who can exercise absolute discretion, that costs literally millions. for something of this magnitude at least.
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Most of them, they just tell them they are participating in a simulation to get them to do it. After the hoax is completed, they monitor all their phone calls, texts, movements, etc., to find out if they are talking. If they are talking, then they are threatened, intimidated, and generally just made to fear for their lives and the lives of their families. I mean, who wouldn't be scared when your own government threatens to kill you and your family if you keep talking? Not many. So they just take the wiser and more cowardly route and shut the fuck up. Easier. Safer. Other troublemakers are paid off, and they like having loads of cash to spend, so they keep quiet. There are many, many ways to keep people's mouths shut when you are the government and have access to everything and can control those people's entire lives. It doesn't matter how many. The shadow government can easily handle them all, one way or the other. -
2017-06-18 at 2:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Most of them, they just tell them they are participating in a simulation to get them to do it. After the hoax is completed, they monitor all their phone calls, texts, movements, etc., to find out if they are talking. If they are talking, then they are threatened, intimidated, and generally just made to fear for their lives and the lives of their families. I mean, who wouldn't be scared when your own government threatens to kill you and your family if you keep talking? Not many. So they just take the wiser and more cowardly route and shut the fuck up. Easier. Safer. Other troublemakers are paid off, and they like having loads of cash to spend, so they keep quiet. There are many, many ways to keep people's mouths shut when you are the government and have access to everything and can control those people's entire lives. It doesn't matter how many. The shadow government can easily handle them all, one way or the other.
they sure did a great job with edward snowden
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2017-06-18 at 2:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist they sure did a great job with edward snowden
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The odd one slips out. Then they just get the fakestream media to vilify the person as a nutjob and kook, the masses nod their stupid little heads in agreement, and they right move along and step into line. Meanwhile, the bad guys work diligently day and night to assassinate or kidnap the person. It's all about acceptable losses and returns. It's never going to be perfect. Just look at 9/11. They had a million holes in that one, but they were able to cover up most of them quite well. -
2017-06-18 at 2:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL The odd one slips out. Then they just get the fakestream media to vilify the person as a nutjob and kook, the masses nod their stupid little heads in agreement, and they right move along and step into line. Meanwhile, the bad guys work diligently day and night to assassinate or kidnap the person. It's all about acceptable losses and returns. It's never going to be perfect. Just look at 9/11. They had a million holes in that one, but they were able to cover up most of them quite well.
exactly, its not perfect and it only takes one to slip out. if you false flagged a school shooting where many kids were murdered and it came to light it was goverment sanctioned people would end up in the gas chamber ffs. there'd be revolution, nobody would trust the government at all after that. no one gonna risk that with hundreds of potential loose ends. you're off your fucking nut spektroll.
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2017-06-18 at 2:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist exactly, its not perfect and it only takes one to slip out. if you false flagged a school shooting where many kids were murdered and it came to light it was goverment sanctioned people would end up in the gas chamber ffs. there'd be revolution, nobody would trust the government at all after that. no one gonna risk that with hundreds of potential loose ends. you're off your fucking nut spektroll.
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Hah. That's funny, but not even near true. For example, the vast majority of the world's leading structural engineers have went public with their assessment that all the towers on 9/11 were brought down by controlled demolition. The world's leading experts concluded all three towers were not brought down by the impacts of the planes. And what was the result? The sheeple just nodded their heads, ignored it all, and moved right along. You give the mindless public wayyyy to much credit! Even if a bunch of people talked, that wouldn't change a thing! -
2017-06-18 at 5:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Hah. That's funny, but not even near true. For example, the vast majority of the world's leading structural engineers have went public with their assessment that all the towers on 9/11 were brought down by controlled demolition. The world's leading experts concluded all three towers were not brought down by the impacts of the planes. And what was the result? The sheeple just nodded their heads, ignored it all, and moved right along. You give the mindless public wayyyy to much credit! Even if a bunch of people talked, that wouldn't change a thing!
ok do you not understand the difference between those engineers giving their opinion and the testimony of a witness that was actually there?
if somebody who was actually recruited by the shadows came out and gave a convincing sworn testimony that he was there planting or saw the planting of explosives in the towers that day, then people would listen to that. if somebody came out and said they were employed as an 'actor' at sandy hook that day and gave a convincing testimony then people would listen. all those engineers you talk of are just speculating. that isn't proof so nobody really takes much notice.
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2017-06-18 at 6:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist …engineers giving their opinion…
Engineers don't give opinions, they give facts. And you should get yours straight, instead of offering bedtime stories. Witnesses who were there have no experience in structural engineering. The vast majority of the world's leading structual engineers state it is a fact the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition. That is a fact. -
2017-06-18 at 8:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Engineers don't give opinions, they give facts. And you should get yours straight, instead of offering bedtime stories. Witnesses who were there have no experience in structural engineering. The vast majority of the world's leading structual engineers state it is a fact the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition. That is a fact.
that doesn't make it a fact. they weren't in the towers, so they cannot say for sure. they've given an opinion based on shitty footage that was taken during the chaos. they couldn't even get to see it from every angle, so all they can do is give an educated opinion based on what little they could see.
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2017-06-18 at 8:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist that doesn't make it a fact. they weren't in the towers, so they cannot say for sure. they've given an opinion based on shitty footage that was taken during the chaos. they couldn't even get to see it from every angle, so all they can do is give an educated opinion based on what little they could see.
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