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why is satan so mean?

  1. #21
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by -SpectraL He created the army to bring justice to his enemies, much like you or I would use a battle hammer to pound down our enemies in battle. He created his heavenly government so that his will would not appear arbitrary and tyrannical, but would be open and transparent to all, so that all things could be examined by all and understood fully by all, for their own benefit, rather than his. He could easily and immediately do away with all that and simply assume total control and total power, regardless of anyone's complaints, but he would rather obedience and loyalty come from the heart rather than the head.

    doesn't that seam rather redundant when he directly created both?
  2. #22
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by aldra doesn't that seam rather redundant when he directly created both?

    All things he created for his own pleasure. What he takes is his to take, and what he gives is his to give. Not a single one of us comes into this world with a single thing but our own skin, and not a single one of us can leave with anything more.
  3. #23
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    God created his heavenly government in order that law can be justly calculated and applied, for all to witness. He is a God of fair justice.
  4. #24
    Originally posted by -SpectraL God created his heavenly government in order that law can be justly calculated and applied, for all to witness. He is a God of fair justice.

    And mercy. He's not just about justice or we'd all be fucked.
  5. #25
    Originally posted by -SpectraL All things he created for his own pleasure. What he takes is his to take, and what he gives is his to give. Not a single one of us comes into this world with a single thing but our own skin, and not a single one of us can leave with anything more.

    Originally posted by -SpectraL God created his heavenly government in order that law can be justly calculated and applied, for all to witness. He is a God of fair justice.

    Way off. Creation eludes understanding. Law and order cannot exist without chaos. The nature of God eludes you.

    Originally posted by Dargo And mercy. He's not just about justice or we'd all be fucked.

    You are fucked, and your concepts are meaningless. God is beyond any mortal comprehsion.
  6. #26
    SpectraL. It is really hard to ever tell if you're being disingenuous or sincere. You've destroyed your own reputation and credibility, and entrenched yourself in your persona hard that Ifind it hard to ever believe you're making a genuine effort.
  7. #27
    He's not mean, he's just playful. :)
  8. #28
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon SpectraL. It is really hard to ever tell if you're being disingenuous or sincere. You've destroyed your own reputation and credibility, and entrenched yourself in your persona hard that Ifind it hard to ever believe you're making a genuine effort.

    Well, and it's like he's taken Christianity and added a touch of Scientology or other weird shit to it.
  9. #29
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon SpectraL. It is really hard to ever tell if you're being disingenuous or sincere. You've destroyed your own reputation and credibility, and entrenched yourself in your persona hard that Ifind it hard to ever believe you're making a genuine effort.

    Every post you make just drags this community down further, of all the people pulling on the chain you are the one putting in more effort than anyone. Steering your loved ones straight into oblivion

    Originally posted by Dargo Well, and it's like he's taken Christianity and added a touch of Scientology or other weird shit to it.

    Spectral is a Trianglist, through and through.
  10. #30
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by -SpectraL All things he created for his own pleasure. What he takes is his to take, and what he gives is his to give. Not a single one of us comes into this world with a single thing but our own skin, and not a single one of us can leave with anything more.

    what I mean is that if what you're saying is true, God's more or less just programmed us and thrown us into the ring to bounce off of each other and the walls.

    given that everything we have and everything we ever do is a product of his design, why would he need to create structures like armies and governments? seems like building a robot, then trying to program its to go back in its box instead of just putting it away when you're done out of some retarded moral gymnastics.
  11. #31
    Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump Every post you make just drags this community down further, of all the people pulling on the chain you are the one putting in more effort than anyone. Steering your loved ones straight into oblivion

    You are boring and it kills you that even your best attempts at seeming "hhe so randum tringalings" fail. You're never going to be as interesting as being. Just give up.
  12. #32
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Dargo And mercy. He's not just about justice or we'd all be fucked.

    Well, that's an interesting comment. And it's true that he does have mercy, but that is not his motivating or defining principle. Rather, he operates on the principle of justice. An evening of the scales. If so much is on the left, then so much needs to be on the right. So when he destroys someone, it is not because he is without mercy, it is because he will always balance the scale of justice in each and every instance. You could almost say he has "no choice" but to balance the scales of justice. Each of us earns our own weight on his scales, and he simply pays each one their own due.
  13. #33
    Bitch you cray cray
  14. #34
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by aldra what I mean is that if what you're saying is true, God's more or less just programmed us and thrown us into the ring to bounce off of each other and the walls.

    given that everything we have and everything we ever do is a product of his design, why would he need to create structures like armies and governments? seems like building a robot, then trying to program its to go back in its box instead of just putting it away when you're done out of some retarded moral gymnastics.

    It all hinges on the concept of free will. If he forced, or designed, his creations to obey no matter what, they would only be robots, and not true individuals with choices available to them. His enjoyment comes from the voluntary gratitude humans display when they develop a healthy relationship with him, and so there must be systems designed to manage such input and occurrence.
  15. #35
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by -SpectraL It all hinges on the concept of free will. If he forced, or designed, his creations to obey no matter what, they would only be robots, and not true individuals with choices available to them. His enjoyment comes from the voluntary gratitude humans display when they develop a healthy relationship with him, and so there must be systems designed to manage such input and occurrence.

    that's just pure masturbation
  16. #36
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    None of us can approach or even talk to the Grand Judge directly, as we are already condemned persons, belonging to the offspring of Adam, a confessed criminal who has already received full judgement and sentence for his wicked acts. But Jesus had an idea. If the scales of justice MUST balance with God, and since Adam was a perfect man who sinned, then the only way to balance the scale back to even, allowing us all another chance to make direct contact with God, is if a perfect man were to NOT sin. The sinless man would cancel out the sinful man, thus enabling us all to make claim to Adam's initial inheritance in his heavenly court of justice. So Jesus freely volunteered and was recreated into a human and came to Earth to cancel Adam's sin in God's court of law and justice.
  17. #37
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by aldra that's just pure masturbation

    I may have used the term "voluntary gratitude" loosely. What I should have said instead was that he wants to share what he has to offer with creation, but not have it be a mandatory situation, where the creation has no choice but to obey. This provides him pleasure when the creation willing subjugates themselves to his guidance and direction, while the creation gains personal satisfaction and prosperity from the relationship as well. A mutual companionship to the benefit of both parties. Humans are the apex of his creation, and what makes us so special is we, each of us, have the power and choice of free will. No machine has that. Every machine is carefully programmed to carry out predetermined functions. Not so with the human creation. Each human carries in his, or her, own hands their own destiny, which is something unique to all of his other creations. We are created in his image, in that we each also have the choice and the power available to us to decide what our future will be, just as he has the freedom and the power to decide what his future will be.
  18. #38
    snab_snib African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Dargo And mercy. He's not just about justice or we'd all be fucked.

    no

    he is not merciful
  19. #39
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by aldra w…God's more or less just programmed us..

    Yes, but as I explained, it's more than just programming, in the case of the human. Even now,today, scientists are attempting to build an artificial intelligence which is truly independent of its own programming.
  20. #40
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by snab_snib no

    he is not merciful

    He has mercy where it can be permitted through genuine justice.
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