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2020-02-09 at 11:47 PM UTCArtillery in this context often refers to tanks, airplanes and ships as well.
These things do the killing in war, your rifle is a personal defence weapon. Which is also among the reasons they now use .223 caliber instead of .308. If you have a building you must clear you call in an airstrike or wait for the tanks.
Artillery only works when you don't care about collateral damage. Look how efficiently the Warsaw Uprising was suppressed. There's no need to suppress an uprising when you can just destroy the city instead.
While the second amendment today is weaker than it has ever been, it still serves it's purpose. Unless the US is willing to do what's pictured below to it's own population. In Warsaw they had no second amendment, they set up shop in garages making Sten guns instead.
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2020-02-10 at 12:01 AM UTCStandoff weapons in general.
The main issue in using such things is that they still have to be operated by soldiers whose morale will break rapidly when forced to wipe out their own people like that. The Ukrainian fight against the Eastern separatists has such a clear racial motivation to it because it HAS to -
2020-02-10 at 12:13 AM UTCArtillery is mostly used for troop support now a days. If you want to flatten a city like that then you'd use bombers to do the job.
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2020-02-10 at 12:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc There are many different types of gun and even more types of ammunition giving them many different roles. But generally you have cannon or field guns which will be generally aimed directly at the target so would be used mostly against armour and buildings. Howitzer and mortars fire shells up which then drop down on to the target, often at great distances, and work best in a suppressive role. In other words suppressing or pinning down enemy in a certain area. Other than that you could use many guns to attack towns and villages but anything bigger than a small village would only be giving you an 'harassing' type of barrage which would have a very limited effect on small groups that could be hiding anywhere in the town. Unless you had spotters who could pin point an exact building that they occupied you would be unlikely to hit them. And if you were sending a spotting unit in then they may as well just attack them themselves as they would be much more effective in doing so.
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you clearly forgot how your cities were destroyed by german artilleries.
anyway, howitzers are more of a direct fire weapon because its trajectory is straighter than mortars and artilleries which are indirect fire weapons.
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2020-02-10 at 12:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc Artillery is mostly used for troop support now a days. If you want to flatten a city like that then you'd use bombers to do the job.
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My initial point still stands, artillery and bombers are out of reach to most civilians. Thus you need the second amendment more than ever.
Germans used the Sturmtiger and Schwerer Gustav to destroy Warsaw btw, among many other things a lot of controlled demolitions.
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2020-02-10 at 9:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you clearly forgot how your cities were destroyed by german artilleries.
anyway, howitzers are more of a direct fire weapon because its trajectory is straighter than mortars and artilleries which are indirect fire weapons.
and look into how serbs used artilleries to commit 'war crimes' by leading serbnicks into killzones.
Haha laugh at the idiot
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2020-02-10 at 9:13 AM UTCthey're actually pretty effective direct fire weapons against helicopters lol
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2020-02-10 at 11:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you clearly forgot how your cities were destroyed by german artilleries.
who's cities? British cities were destroyed by the Luftewaffe, and then they barely destroyed even an 1/8 of any of our cities.
What you're all talking about is siege situation which would happen over many months. You couldn't destroy a town or even a large village in just hours or a few days using artillery.
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2020-02-10 at 11:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc who's cities? British cities were destroyed by the Luftewaffe, and then they barely destroyed even an 1/8 of any of our cities.
What you're all talking about is siege situation which would happen over many months. You couldn't destroy a town or even a large village in just hours or a few days using artillery.
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2020-02-10 at 11:33 AM UTC
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2020-02-10 at 11:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc who's cities? British cities were destroyed by the Luftewaffe, and then they barely destroyed even an 1/8 of any of our cities.
What you're all talking about is siege situation which would happen over many months. You couldn't destroy a town or even a large village in just hours or a few days using artillery.
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If you launch nukes maybe. Especially now we have some terrifying ones that could easily knock a whole state or European country. -
2020-02-10 at 11:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace If you launch nukes maybe. Especially now we have some terrifying ones that could easily knock a whole state or European country.
Lolwut? Which nukes do you know of that can knock out a whole country? Even a large city like London would need several nukes to completely destroy it.
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2020-02-10 at 11:52 AM UTC
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2020-02-10 at 11:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc Lolwut? Which nukes do you know of that can knock out a whole country? Even a large city like London would need several nukes to completely destroy it.
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Don't have time to look into it but there's a site with a map that shows you the blast radius of newer nukes. You could definitely knock out most of the UK with one of the newer ones. We've advanced a lot from simply destroying one city in the last 60-70 years. A no holds nuclear war today would be absolutely catastrophic. Billions could potentially die and we could definitely irradiate huge chunks of our planet. -
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