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Piracy and streaming have ruined music
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2020-02-07 at 1:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by Narc If you was an 80s child like me then your tape collection would always look something like this
lol, just noticed in that top pic the leanard cohen tape was made in 2013. So some people still doing this now.
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And then after you there were casual idiots who's collection consisted of only CD-rs.
Piracy has been an issue for a very long time.
The point of this thread is about digital file piracy and streaming and how having instantaneous unlimited access to music takes away from the value of it.
Of course, the same can be said for a bootleg collection of tapes and CD-rs, you're never going to feel as strongly about that music as a genuine fan who owns the actual copy. -
2020-02-07 at 1:39 AM UTCAlso aren't you that guy who was hilariously trying to argue that 90s pop techno was better than something like Autechre?
lol it now makes since why your taste is so poor and mainstream, you never got into music beyond radio tier garbage you recorded to tape. -
2020-02-07 at 2:24 AM UTCSome bands actually encourage the open sharing of their music. Being able to publish your own music via the net is among the best tools artists have to get themselves recognized. Unfortunately, this also increased competition to get paid gigs.
Supply and demand of musicians is the problem, not piracy. -
2020-02-07 at 2:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by Corona-chan And then after you there were casual idiots who's collection consisted of only CD-rs.
Piracy has been an issue for a very long time.
The point of this thread is about digital file piracy and streaming and how having instantaneous unlimited access to music takes away from the value of it.
Of course, the same can be said for a bootleg collection of tapes and CD-rs, you're never going to feel as strongly about that music as a genuine fan who owns the actual copy.
Musics value is not in it's market it is in it's soul. Music has no soul today because producers tell the artists what to create. And that is why music sucks/is dead.
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2020-02-07 at 3:18 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-02-07 at 6:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Musics value is not in it's market it is in it's soul. Music has no soul today because producers tell the artists what to create. And that is why music sucks/is dead.
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You're listening to the wrong kind of music if you think the bulk of modern musicians answer to producers.
This is a major issue and it's not limited to mainstream/commercial bands. -
2020-02-07 at 1:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Corona-chan And then after you there were casual idiots who's collection consisted of only CD-rs.
Piracy has been an issue for a very long time.
The point of this thread is about digital file piracy and streaming and how having instantaneous unlimited access to music takes away from the value of it.
Of course, the same can be said for a bootleg collection of tapes and CD-rs, you're never going to feel as strongly about that music as a genuine fan who owns the actual copy.
The problem isn't caused by people being able to download freely and easily, because that isn't even the case. When I download music I still have to pay for the devices I use, The electricity and the wifi used to download. Plus I have to spend loads of my valuable time doing so. So I am still investing something of value in obtaining it. The problem is with big businesses like record companies who are stuck in the stone age and won't commit to how music and the internet works, they don't even really understand it tho.
Back when selling recordings of an artists work became a thing the average person didn't own the sort of devices that could easily record, save and transfer media themselves. Media companies would invest in huge machinery and recording equipment and then the recordings would be sold through a store. The equipment gave them a monopoly on recording and distribution of the media. If you wanted music then you had no choice but to go to a store and buy it. But the end user paying the store directly for the media was the most convenient way back then because other companies would have to be involved like the stores, distribution and advertising agencies among others.
But modern technology has changed that. Music companies no longer have a monopoly on recording and distributing media. Anybody now can create, record, save, market and distribute media in electronic form. The internet works different, people don't expect to pay directly for files because they are aware that they are paying in different forms, by viewing the advertising on a website for instance and for paying for broadband connections etc. And all the smart new businesses who are aware of how new online marketing works understands that having millions of eyeballs on your website is very valuable, viewing adverts, linking to other sites and that. The new way media will be sold in future will be by record companies setting up a website for an artist where the fans can come and download the music for free, safe in the knowledge that it will be exactly the music they wanted and will be free of viruses. and they will make just as much, if not more by ad revenue, click throughs and from merchandising and ticket sales.
Unfortunately big companies can't change their ways so easily, they have millions invested in machinery, thousands of staff who are trained and have contracts, plus other contractual agreements keeping them stuck in their ways, stuck in the past. Soon new upstarts will come and using modern methods will blow all the old dinosaurs out of the water, its inevitable. The dinosaurs tho are desperately trying to keep a grip as long as possible, this is why you see all this anti-piracy legislation and stuff, the bullshit propaganda being spread around that has clearly got into your dumb little brain hikkifag. But its no good blaming the early adopters for your lack of understanding coupled with the fact that you are growing up now and your musical tastes will inevitably change and broaden as you grow. Just learn to move with it hikkifag, its not a bad thing, you've nothing to be scared of from a little bit of change, that's just how life goes, it always will do.
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2020-02-07 at 1:44 PM UTC
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2020-02-07 at 7:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc The problem isn't caused by people being able to download freely and easily, because that isn't even the case. When I download music I still have to pay for the devices I use, The electricity and the wifi used to download. Plus I have to spend loads of my valuable time doing so. So I am still investing something of value in obtaining it. The problem is with big businesses like record companies who are stuck in the stone age and won't commit to how music and the internet works, they don't even really understand it tho.
Back when selling recordings of an artists work became a thing the average person didn't own the sort of devices that could easily record, save and transfer media themselves. Media companies would invest in huge machinery and recording equipment and then the recordings would be sold through a store. The equipment gave them a monopoly on recording and distribution of the media. If you wanted music then you had no choice but to go to a store and buy it. But the end user paying the store directly for the media was the most convenient way back then because other companies would have to be involved like the stores, distribution and advertising agencies among others.
But modern technology has changed that. Music companies no longer have a monopoly on recording and distributing media. Anybody now can create, record, save, market and distribute media in electronic form. The internet works different, people don't expect to pay directly for files because they are aware that they are paying in different forms, by viewing the advertising on a website for instance and for paying for broadband connections etc. And all the smart new businesses who are aware of how new online marketing works understands that having millions of eyeballs on your website is very valuable, viewing adverts, linking to other sites and that. The new way media will be sold in future will be by record companies setting up a website for an artist where the fans can come and download the music for free, safe in the knowledge that it will be exactly the music they wanted and will be free of viruses. and they will make just as much, if not more by ad revenue, click throughs and from merchandising and ticket sales.
Unfortunately big companies can't change their ways so easily, they have millions invested in machinery, thousands of staff who are trained and have contracts, plus other contractual agreements keeping them stuck in their ways, stuck in the past. Soon new upstarts will come and using modern methods will blow all the old dinosaurs out of the water, its inevitable. The dinosaurs tho are desperately trying to keep a grip as long as possible, this is why you see all this anti-piracy legislation and stuff, the bullshit propaganda being spread around that has clearly got into your dumb little brain hikkifag. But its no good blaming the early adopters for your lack of understanding coupled with the fact that you are growing up now and your musical tastes will inevitably change and broaden as you grow. Just learn to move with it hikkifag, its not a bad thing, you've nothing to be scared of from a little bit of change, that's just how life goes, it always will do.
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sounds like pirated article from torrentfreak. -
2020-02-07 at 8:03 PM UTClol
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2020-02-07 at 9:01 PM UTCMake your own music like I do, stop relying on other's work you lazy faggits.
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2020-02-07 at 9:38 PM UTCNot everyone has the kind of mind geared toward creating music. And even if you did it would be way too time consuming to make every musical track that you listen to yourself. Plus I often enjoy listening to a great female vocalist with a very sweet voice which is something I personally could never recreate.
I mean like I enjoy art, I enjoy listening to musical art and watching the visual art of music videos, but I am not the least bit minded in that createful way that's well geared toward producing it myself.
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2020-02-07 at 9:40 PM UTCI like music.
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2020-02-07 at 9:43 PM UTC
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2020-02-07 at 9:45 PM UTCLol yeah that's the same sound they make when they fuck.
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2020-02-07 at 11:37 PM UTC
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2020-02-08 at 12:11 AM UTCI do say the author of this article has poor taste, and a rather large Zionest looking snout.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-02-08 at 12:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Video games still have some creative hope. Like when a smaller designer gets it's first title picked up by a big distro house such a EA.
Wtf are you talking about? All innovation in games industry in past two decades have come from amateur modders. Once a concept is proven to work in a mod (counter-strike for example) they get bought up and it goes mainstream. A newer example would be PUGB.
Same goes for music and for movies. Those who are already professional are not allowed to experiment with gameplay. They've got a script corporate hands them which they must stick to. -
2020-02-08 at 2:24 AM UTC
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