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2020-01-16 at 12:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Yeah, still no. I watched this shit unfold when I was a kid. It had nothing to do with no CIA. He was plain looney with power, nothing more.
I agree mostly with you. Yet there is a wikileak (before wiki was taken over) that in fact in the vault 7 (unless that is just a CIA Spin) stated that the MKUltra and MK whatever were in fact real.
San Francisco was a good place for CIA to do this shit in because it was the place for flower power and the Beatnik / hippy movement.
as for french bread. It's interesting because rye and wheat grass (brought to San Francisco area in the 1800s from Europe) has ergot which is rye mold. easy to just bake that into bread. this is what was believed to cause the witch paranoia in Boston area as well. or Salem. -
2020-01-16 at 12:56 AM UTCnow they make it into $1500 migraine medicine that makes you feel like shit
i have a bunch of it in my drawer i dont use -
2020-01-16 at 12:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Yeah, still no. I watched this shit unfold when I was a kid. It had nothing to do with no CIA. He was plain looney with power, nothing more.
So was Kurz from Apocalypse now though - he was set up as a local warlord by the CIA, lost his mind and they eventually sent several people to kill him.
The movie was actually very close to what happened. -
2020-01-16 at 12:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra So was Kurz from Apocalypse now though - he was set up as a local warlord by the CIA, lost his mind and they eventually sent several people to kill him.
The movie was actually very close to what happened.
can you link me something to the actual story? I tried looking it up one time and had trouble finding non conflicting things -
2020-01-16 at 1:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra So was Kurz from Apocalypse now though - he was set up as a local warlord by the CIA, lost his mind and they eventually sent several people to kill him.
The movie was actually very close to what happened.
Yeah still a no. Ain’t nobody set Jim Jones up to do anything. His insanity started in his childhood and just continued throughout his life. -
2020-01-16 at 1:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra So was Kurz from Apocalypse now though - he was set up as a local warlord by the CIA, lost his mind and they eventually sent several people to kill him.
The movie was actually very close to what happened.
Actually I found a lot of stuff.
Just from one article.Apocalypse lies
Despite claims that Apocalypse Now - due for rerelease in an extended format - exposed the truth about the Vietnam war, it is riddled with grotesque falsehoods and scenes of breathtaking phoniness
https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2001/nov/02/artsfeatures.londonfilmfestival2001 -
2020-01-16 at 1:31 AM UTCI got this far into this critique and opinionated banter on that of the Actor Dennis Hopper
"No maybes, no supposes, no fractions. You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without, like, you know, with fractions." He even manages to splice TS Eliot into his blathering: "I'm a little man. He's, he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas." Hard to imagine worse lines spoken by a first-rate actor.'
obviously the critic didn't understand and thought it was just Hopper trying to sound hipster-tone.
you can't go somewhere without a plan and designation. going into space without fractions is just "Nowhere" because Space is infinite. but if you place fractions (or miles/Kilometers) in space then you have a designation. he did this with sort of a beat-poet verbiage thingy
Who the fuck is the critic to critique this and act like he's not saying anything of value to the story.. it's probably a prefaces to events to come. and the critic just went along for the ride without seeing all the signs.
Fucking people who dare critique the works of others as a profession and not themselves for thinking they're high and mighty. -
2020-01-16 at 2:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Actually I found a lot of stuff.
Just from one article.
https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2001/nov/02/artsfeatures.londonfilmfestival2001
That's mostly just artistic critique of the movie and doesn't refer to what I was:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Poshepny
https://unredacted.com/2016/08/30/state-declassifies-documents-on-legendary-tony-po-and-his-secret-army/ -
2020-01-16 at 2:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra That's mostly just artistic critique of the movie and doesn't refer to what I was:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Poshepny
https://unredacted.com/2016/08/30/state-declassifies-documents-on-legendary-tony-po-and-his-secret-army/
That only talks about him, doesn’t discuss the CIA killing him. As a matter of fact Tony Poe (Anthony Poshepny) is listed as dying from liver failure. -
2020-01-16 at 2:26 AM UTCThey weren't actually able to, as I understand it they sent contractors after him a few times but failed. Most of his record's still classified though so I'm just going off what I remember reading in interviews a while back
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2020-01-16 at 2:29 AM UTC
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2020-01-16 at 2:35 AM UTCHe started a church.
The founding of the People's Temple
After being affiliated with several different Indianapolis churches, Jones started his own congregation in 1955. At first, they met at 1502 N. New Jersey St., but as the congregation grew it moved to a larger building at 975 N. Delaware St., just south of 10th Street. -
2020-01-16 at 2:39 AM UTCAnd then
Accordingly, Jones preached that the Temple must move to Redwood Valley, California. In July 1965, Jones led approximately 140 members, half of whom were black, to Redwood Valley, and officially opened his church there.
From there he moved his following to Guyana -
2020-01-16 at 2:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra They weren't actually able to, as I understand it they sent contractors after him a few times but failed. Most of his record's still classified though so I'm just going off what I remember reading in interviews a while back
I don’t know what I’d believe with his info being classified. It could be classified because he went rogue and the CIA don’t want to be affiliated with him.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I tend to need a lot of evidence to go against conventional knowledge.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-01-16 at 2:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Yeah, still no. I watched this shit unfold when I was a kid. It had nothing to do with no CIA. He was plain looney with power, nothing more.
Source? oh wait but you dont have one and again you're talking out of your ass. I bet you think the moon landing was real, too. You believe anything that fits your paradigm, and your fake tits. -
2020-01-16 at 2:44 AM UTCYeah ya caught me kr0z I’m talking out my ass. I’ve seen a variety of interviews with survivors of Jonestown.
But hey, you know more than the survivors. Tell me more. -
2020-01-16 at 2:44 AM UTCThat audio of the end of Jonestown was hard to listen to.
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2020-01-16 at 2:45 AM UTC
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2020-01-16 at 2:45 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-01-16 at 2:46 AM UTCDidn't they find ol Jimmy with a bullet in his head?
