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An introduction to music for the philistines of NIS
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2020-01-12 at 8:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal Those songs you just posted are pop rock.
There is nothing "rule breaking" about them.
It's hilarious that those are your examples.
They are rule breaking.... I detailed explicitly how they break the rules. This just further shows you have absolutely no fucking idea what music theory is. People have been 'breaking the rules' for centuries.
Like I said, it's a language, not a stringent set of rules. If you can't discuss how your 'noise' music is different in an objective, factual way (as opposed to "durrrr ur music bad mine good") then you really have no comprehension at all of what you're trying to lecture everyone here on. Give me a progression example. Tell me in what ways they break key (and if you think those songs aren't in any specific key... lol).
But I know you can't do that. This is basically like trying to have a conversation with someone who cannot speak and knows no language, yet is adamant that their nonsensical babbling is the best form of communication. Although in that scenario the person wouldn't be able to communicate their retard ideas. I unfortunately don't have that luxury with you. -
2020-01-12 at 8:46 PM UTCMy whole point and the point of this thread was to disregard music theory and any expectation of what music should be.
It's the philosophy of bands such as Throbbing Gristle and those they have influenced and inspired, and they were neither the first to adopt that mindset.
Music as you understand it is limited and confined to a box.
My whole point is to embrace music as sound art rather than a skill. -
2020-01-12 at 8:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal Mexican, listen to this.
An example of a musician not defined by music theory, or rules.
Truly "rule breaking" music.
But go ahead and tell me how your boomer pop is more avant garde.
150 BPM is a really common BPM, steady meter the whole song too
Has a very basic triad. I think Cmaj? Might be wrong but that's definitely a triad.
The singing sounding stuff at around 7min in is literally just a basic 1-5-6-4 chord progression
I think you just like it because it sounds weirdThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-01-12 at 8:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal My whole point and the point of this thread was to disregard music theory and any expectation of what music should be.
It's the philosophy of bands such as Throbbing Gristle and those they have influenced and inspired, and they were neither the first to adopt that mindset.
Music as you understand it is limited and confined to a box.
My whole point is to embrace music as sound art rather than a skill.
"Your" point is sooooo ground breaking -
2020-01-12 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal My whole point and the point of this thread was to disregard music theory and any expectation of what music should be.
It's the philosophy of bands such as Throbbing Gristle and those they have influenced and inspired, and they were neither the first to adopt that mindset.
Music as you understand it is limited and confined to a box.
My whole point is to embrace music as sound art rather than a skill.
My point is that you literally don't understand what music theory is. It applies to all music. It is the framework of what sounds good to our ears. It's a language. Even when you 'break the rules' (meaning, the rule of harmonics) there's a term or definition for it, like the parallel octaves I was talking about. Or playing one note off key. -
2020-01-12 at 9 PM UTCLike I said earlier, you're just trying to excuse your complete lack of musical ability by dismissing the reliable language by which all professional composers speak.
Bill Krozby says he plays by ear. Doesn't mean he isn't good. But I'm willing to bet that a lot of his chord progressions follow established music theory concepts, because that's what sounds good.
If you want real 'noise' that doesn't follow any established rules, go listen to traffic. Or better yet, play in it. -
2020-01-12 at 9 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace My point is that you literally don't understand what music theory is. It applies to all music. It is the framework of what sounds good to our ears. It's a language. Even when you 'break the rules' (meaning, the rule of harmonics) there's a term or definition for it, like the parallel octaves I was talking about. Or playing one note off key.
You still don't understand the point I was making -
2020-01-12 at 9:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal You still don't understand the point I was making
Which is...??
I already showed you how you were wrong about 'breaking the rules' by showing you classics I knew you'd shit on.
Then I pointed out how your 'noise' that 'breaks all da rulez yo' is really just weirdo sounding music but does in fact follow established concepts in music theory.
So really... what's your point? Because if you've been paying attention, we have already established that the 'rules' of music theory are constantly 'broken'. -
2020-01-12 at 9:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace If you want real 'noise' that doesn't follow any established rules
A genre like that already exists, it's called harsh noise.
There are no rules, it's all improvised.
Anyways, this thread isn't about noise, it's about making music without considering theory, rules or any notion of what music is or should be. -
2020-01-12 at 11:17 PM UTCYeah, bad music.
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2020-01-12 at 11:34 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 11:39 PM UTCLol. So it all stems down to a dude just listening to the shittiest music he can find and then calling everyone else normies because they dont like shitty music.
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2020-01-12 at 11:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Do you listen to anything that's actually good
Originally posted by mmQ Lol. So it all stems down to a dude just listening to the shittiest music he can find and then calling everyone else normies because they dont like shitty music.
Man it must suck to be you two -
2020-01-12 at 11:59 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-01-13 at 12:01 AM UTCMust suck to only like one genre of obscure shitty music
I'll stick with my Frank Sinatra thanks -
2020-01-13 at 12:02 AM UTC
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2020-01-13 at 12:02 AM UTC
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2020-01-13 at 12:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal If you genuinely think Fennesz is shitty you should kill yourself, I'm not even joking.
Loo Fennesz might literally be the shittiest music I've ever had the displeasure of listening to. I'm not even joking either. I remember playing it for my special education cousin whose IQ is sub 75 and he kept clapping and laughing and thought it was the best thing ever.
