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An introduction to music for the philistines of NIS
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2020-01-12 at 6:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace You seem to think music theory just means "rules" and seem to believe those rules apply to music you don't like, despite you not being able to hear the difference between A minor and #G.
Why don't you tell us what's wrong with big bad music theory, hmmm?
weeeel he's just retarded, its like a gont like sploo that makes all these iq test but never does anything with his "intellect" and then overdoses on diarrhea medicine. I play guitar and bass by ear for the most part but I do recognize that learning music theory is fundamental to being more well rounded.
The guy has never played in front of anyone except his mother and his cat because too much of a coward to step out of his comfort zone. -
2020-01-12 at 6:54 PM UTCMy point is to not even think about theory at all and approach music from your own perspective
Watch that video interview of Genesis P-Orridge, maybe read some of their interviews as well. -
2020-01-12 at 6:57 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 6:59 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 7 PM UTCC'mon hikki. Let's see it.
Which one is A minor and which one is G sharp, the first or the second key?
https://vocaroo.com/4CnJcDSoVSn -
2020-01-12 at 7:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby I'm not posing as anything and I've listened to noise and industrial way before then. And I never said it was necessary. Nice try tho.
No you haven't.
You only know of one whitehouse song, which you discovered on YouTube and you didn't even know about The Gerogerigegege until 2017. -
2020-01-12 at 7:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal My point is to not even think about theory at all and approach music from your own perspective
Watch that video interview of Genesis P-Orridge, maybe read some of their interviews as well.
I asked you to tell me what's so bad about music theory. Why are you circling around and refusing to answer? What does "approach music from your own perspective" mean? Not holding a root? What type of texture does noise music have when compared to music "composed with music theory"?
Please, I'm dying to know. teach us won't you? -
2020-01-12 at 7:07 PM UTCIf you watched that video you would know what my answer is (which I have already posted numerous times today)
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2020-01-12 at 7:08 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 7:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace You haven't. And if you have, do us a kindness and say it again.
I want you to articulate it in your own words. I'm not watching any video.
yeah I'm not watching the video either. Why would I give a shit what some faggot that lives with his mother judging my musical taste thinks.. Like what if I listened to it.. and didn't like it? What if I did like it? Would it make you less of a faggot and validate you? Serious question..
You only post about video games and music most of us have already heard, yet throw out normie all the time.. who'd of thunk?
You literally have posted about having sex with women equals aids and that if you buy weed you're going to get killed by black people.. you're really out of touch but what can you expect from a guy that spends all day sitting in his room sniffing his farts.
You don't even realize that the real reason why you're so "passionate" about gaming is that you never had a father figure, your mother wanted you out of her hair because she hates you so she bought you a ps1, you cling on to eurasian because that makes it all better for you that your father left you and your bitch whore mother. -
2020-01-12 at 7:38 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 7:45 PM UTCKrotz, you haven't heard of a single band I have posted other than the most wellknown and by name only.
Tell me, what Merzbow albums have you actually listened to?
You're totally clueless about this type of music, you think that because your friend who is more sophisticated than you shared a CD-r with random songs he found on slsk and limewire that somehow makes you an OG.
You're a clown.
As for gaming, I am passionate about gaming because that technology enables people to create fantasy worlds and scenarios you can interact with.
It's an amazing art form that unfortunately has been underappreciated and misunderstood due to commercialism and soulless dullards like yourself. -
2020-01-12 at 7:53 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 8:05 PM UTCI could literally make up a band name and ask krotz if he's heard of them and his repsonse would be "oh yeah they're cool I heard one of their songs on yt".
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2020-01-12 at 8:06 PM UTC
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2020-01-12 at 8:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Relax.
He's already done that except with a band that actually does exist.
I'll try to have a conversation with him regarding these bands he's allegedly been into since middle school yet he can't name a single song or album.
The only noise song he even knows about is "why you never became a dancer" by whitehouse, which he has been posting on here for the past few years.
His understanding of this type of music is more shallow than an "essential chart" posted on /mu/.
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2020-01-12 at 8:31 PM UTCHikki are you ever going to answer my questions? They're very simple. You seem to have strong opinions on music that 'breaks the rules' so I'd like to hear you define what those rules are.
If you actually knew what music theory was, you'd recognize it was more than a language. I can tell you don't even know what the difference between A major and G# are
wanna know how I can tell?
You can't even tell me how your noise music you love so much is different. You just hear other people talk about it and latch onto those ideas without truly understanding it, then you go off spouting terms you don't understand how to use.
Music theory is more a language than anything. It's learning to speak music, and learning innately to understand what sounds good and what doesn't. To break the rules, you first have to be competent in them. You can only do so much by ear. I mean, I'm still learning after playing by ear for 5 years, but goddamn can you do some cool shit with it once you understand even the basics. It gives you a framework for which you can design your songs, whether you're following a simple progression or choosing to go outside them, it doesn't matter. Music theory isn't just about the progressions and keys. It's like learning the betabet.
Here are some examples of people "breaking the rules':
Breaks from his key of C
Double perfect intervals, breaking the rule of harmonics
same thing as above
If you think 'noise' is special in this regard... lol. You're just looking for an excuse to not actually learn how to play music. Beat on your keys all you want, but you're not getting anywhere without at least learning some basic chords and shit. -
2020-01-12 at 8:33 PM UTCThose songs you just posted are pop rock.
There is nothing "rule breaking" about them.
It's hilarious that those are your examples. -
2020-01-12 at 8:35 PM UTCAlso noise isn't a genre, it's a description.
I've posted several different types of music that someone like you who isn't knowledgeable about experimental music would assume is just "noise".
And I have already answered your question.
In fact I stated it in the OP in this thread. -
2020-01-12 at 8:38 PM UTCMexican, listen to this.
An example of a musician not defined by music theory, or rules.
Truly "rule breaking" music.
But go ahead and tell me how your boomer pop is more avant garde.