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Anyone see the Texas Church Shooting?
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2019-12-30 at 2:08 PM UTCthose ones look like shitty high school play props. the workmanship on the first one was impressive
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2019-12-30 at 2:09 PM UTC
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2019-12-30 at 2:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra those ones look like shitty high school play props. the workmanship on the first one was impressive
i dont think its workmanship so much. someone just had a barrel and they built the rest of a gun around it. id be amazed if that was a semi auto. But it also looks to be the most dangerous of the bunch bc it appears to be top loaded like a Luger, except it looks like they just got a piece of sheet metal slid over the breach, and i doubt it locks up very well either. you can make shit like that pretty easily, but making it cycle effectively means having to use more powerful rounds which is more dangerous. Or you can use less powerful rounds that require manual cycling. -
2019-12-30 at 2:50 PM UTC
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2019-12-30 at 2:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Ah. So one gun picture vs the studies which show the majority are bought legally in the US and imported illegally throughout Mexico and South America.
Got it.
You do understand a lump of metal is just a lump of metal...it can't actually kill anyone without a human loading it, pointing it and pulling the trigger (real time or remotely).
When trying to fix a problem it's always best to go to the source of the problem, not the middle or end bit. -
2019-12-30 at 2:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson You do understand a lump of metal is just a lump of metal…it can't actually kill anyone without a human loading it, pointing it and pulling the trigger (real time or remotely).
When trying to fix a problem it's always best to go to the source of the problem, not the middle or end bit.
And the source is guns, yep. -
2019-12-30 at 2:55 PM UTC
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2019-12-30 at 2:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Who makes the guns? people…who misuse the guns..people.
Stick to picking tomatoes kid.
Guns are a weapon. They will be 'abused' to kill people (see:used as intended) as long as they exist.
I have a gun and its sole purpose is for protection. I hold a license for gun ownership and the gun is registered. None of that violates either the 2nd ammendment or the Supreme Court ruling that the right to own a gun applies only to home defense.
Nowhere does it say you get to be unlicensed and sell your guns to cartel members without registration of any sort. Republicans want it to be like the wild west because they think they're all cowboys LOL -
2019-12-30 at 3:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Dude gets shotgunned pointblack in the chest and then one minute later hops up and he's fine. Sounds legit.
Does all your knowledge of weapons come from movies?
1) Theres a bagillion different combos of shot shell and barrel length has a lot to do with it. He probably had to seriously shorten the barrel to out it under his coat, which means if he was using any kind of pellet ammo instead of buck, a lot of it is going to be stopped by the sternum.
2) unless you shoot someone in the head, they stay alive for anywhere between a few seconds to hours. The movies where you drop like a sack of potatoes isnt right. You adrenaline dump. The vessels in your extremities constrict. You jump up and try to get away, and its not usually until it wears off that you start feeling pain. a HUGE number of gunfights where theres not CNS damage only end when the person has leaked out so much blood that their body just stops working.
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2019-12-30 at 3:07 PM UTCI'd rather get shot from a properly made gun than a homemade jobber.
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2019-12-30 at 3:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Does all your knowledge of weapons come from movies?
1) Theres a bagillion different combos of shot shell and barrel length has a lot to do with it. He probably had to seriously shorten the barrel to out it under his coat, which means if he was using any kind of pellet ammo instead of buck, a lot of it is going to be stopped by the sternum.
2) unless you shoot someone in the head, they stay alive for anywhere between a few seconds to hours. The movies where you drop like a sack of potatoes isnt right. You adrenaline dump. The vessels in your extremities constrict. You jump up and try to get away, and its not usually until it wears off that you start feeling pain. a HUGE number of gunfights where theres not CNS damage only end when the person has leaked out so much blood that their body just stops working.
So its completely reasonable that someone would get up after being shot.
Why tell the staff there that they are not allowed to answer questions and to direct all questions to authorities? -
2019-12-30 at 3:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Why tell the staff there that they are not allowed to answer questions and to direct all questions to authorities?
maybe bc with as rabid as leftists are these days, someone would try to target them for death threats or someshit. Self incrimination? You DO realize that in the US you can be prosecuted for a self defense shoot right? Releasing pertinent info that might tip off the guys possible accomplices? something he said about ISIS thatd spook the public? Theres a bagillion reasons why, and im kind of surprised i have to spell that out. -
2019-12-30 at 3:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER maybe bc with as rabid as leftists are these days, someone would try to target them for death threats or someshit. Self incrimination? You DO realize that in the US you can be prosecuted for a self defense shoot right? Releasing pertinent info that might tip off the guys possible accomplices? something he said about ISIS thatd spook the public? Theres a bagillion reasons why, and im kind of surprised i have to spell that out.
And yet there was that time the FBI allowed the media to go right on into the "bomber's" house and film all the stuff laying around, before the investigation had even started. Go figure. -
2019-12-30 at 3:23 PM UTCYeah one thing x number of decades ago kinda has nothing to do with another
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2019-12-30 at 3:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Ah. So one gun picture vs the studies which show the majority are bought legally in the US and imported illegally throughout Mexico and South America.
Got it.
Not quite. It's certainly easier to illegally import a gun, but not so much so that people aren't willing to crank out their own homemade guns. And if you dried up the illegally imported US guns, the number of homemade ones would increase to fill the void. Maybe not completely fill the void, but it would 100% be a thing. ie "if you banned guns, criminals wouldn't have guns" is patently false. If you banned guns, criminals would have shittier guns and law abiding citizens would be defenseless. ^_^
Also, in South America especially, just imagine the cartels branching off into small arms development. Fuck, that'd be awesome. Like Bandit guns from Borderlands or something. -
2019-12-30 at 3:29 PM UTC2A TRAP 4 PREZ
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2019-12-30 at 3:37 PM UTCThey don't want to address the root problems within the populations, because that would mean actual work and they'd actually have to do their jobs. They're much too busy enriching themselves and their butt buddies for that, so out come the bandaid "solutions" and the attacks on law abiding citizens.
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2019-12-30 at 3:40 PM UTC