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2019-12-24 at 5:10 PM UTC
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2019-12-24 at 5:16 PM UTC
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2019-12-25 at 12:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by RottenRobert Democrats want a chance to call witnesses like acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
"As long as it takes," House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told CNN last week. "Even if he (McConnell) doesn't come around to committing to a fair trial, keep those articles here."
There is a lot of stone walling on the Republicans part ordered by Trump. This is political show down played out before the voting audience. Voters will make the ultimate decision during election….
Was the process in the house the type of legal process you would like taken against you in a criminal case? -
2019-12-25 at 2:48 PM UTC
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2019-12-25 at 4:25 PM UTCL
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2019-12-25 at 5:03 PM UTCEL OH FUCKIN 'ELL
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2019-12-26 at 4:22 PM UTCTrump is losing his marbles
‘I never understood wind’: Trump goes on bizarre tirade against wind turbines
President’s nonsensical rambling remarks about ‘windmills’ in segment from weekend speech raised eyebrows
Richard Luscombe in Miami
“I’ve studied it better than anybody I know,” the president asserted in a bizarre segment from a weekend speech to young conservatives in West Palm Beach, Florida, close to his winter retreat at Mar-a-Lago where he is spending the holidays.
“I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.”
Trump ripped into a range of familiar targets in a speech lasting more than one hour at the Turning Point USA student action summit, from the Democrats and House speaker Nancy Pelosi, to his recent impeachment and the so-called Never Trumpers in the Republican party who he said were “the dumbest human beings on earth”.
But it was his rambling and often nonsensical remarks about wind turbines, during a diatribe against the Green New Deal and renewable energy resources, that raised eyebrows.
“They’re made in China and Germany mostly,” Trump said of wind turbines, of which there are more than 57,000 across the US, according to the American Wind Energy Association. “But they’re manufactured tremendous if you’re into this, tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything.
“You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether it’s in China, Germany, it’s going into the air. It’s our air, their air, everything, right?”
It was unclear what exactly Trump meant, or how Trump equated wind turbines converting clean air into energy to toxic fumes fouling the atmosphere. But he did share his thoughts on their appearance.
“You see all those [windmills]. They’re all different shades of color,” he said. “They’re like sort of white, but one is like an orange-white. It’s my favorite color, orange.”
The president’s “war on wind” is not new: earlier this year he was ridiculed for his claims that wind turbines destroyed property values and caused cancer from their noise. -
2019-12-26 at 10:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by RottenRobert Trump is losing his marbles
‘I never understood wind’: Trump goes on bizarre tirade against wind turbines
President’s nonsensical rambling remarks about ‘windmills’ in segment from weekend speech raised eyebrows
Richard Luscombe in Miami
“I’ve studied it better than anybody I know,” the president asserted in a bizarre segment from a weekend speech to young conservatives in West Palm Beach, Florida, close to his winter retreat at Mar-a-Lago where he is spending the holidays.
“I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.”
Trump ripped into a range of familiar targets in a speech lasting more than one hour at the Turning Point USA student action summit, from the Democrats and House speaker Nancy Pelosi, to his recent impeachment and the so-called Never Trumpers in the Republican party who he said were “the dumbest human beings on earth”.
But it was his rambling and often nonsensical remarks about wind turbines, during a diatribe against the Green New Deal and renewable energy resources, that raised eyebrows.
“They’re made in China and Germany mostly,” Trump said of wind turbines, of which there are more than 57,000 across the US, according to the American Wind Energy Association. “But they’re manufactured tremendous if you’re into this, tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything.
“You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether it’s in China, Germany, it’s going into the air. It’s our air, their air, everything, right?”
It was unclear what exactly Trump meant, or how Trump equated wind turbines converting clean air into energy to toxic fumes fouling the atmosphere. But he did share his thoughts on their appearance.
“You see all those [windmills]. They’re all different shades of color,” he said. “They’re like sort of white, but one is like an orange-white. It’s my favorite color, orange.”
The president’s “war on wind” is not new: earlier this year he was ridiculed for his claims that wind turbines destroyed property values and caused cancer from their noise.
I understood exactly what he said. But that is because I listened to him say it instead of waiting for a liberal trash reporter to say it for him. -
2019-12-26 at 10:27 PM UTCyeah, he has a point though he rambles a lot.
Wind power is inefficient for the amount of space it takes, requires a LOT of maintenance and the bit about fumes is a reference to the immense amount of pollution created in the process of extracting and refining 'rare earth' magnets like neodymium.
most 'green' technologies are only green on one side of the supply chain. -
2019-12-26 at 10:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra yeah, he has a point though he rambles a lot.
Wind power is inefficient for the amount of space it takes, requires a LOT of maintenance and the bit about fumes is a reference to the immense amount of pollution created in the process of extracting and refining 'rare earth' magnets like neodymium.
most 'green' technologies are only green on one side of the supply chain.
A hear the blades become fragile over time, and apparently they're so big and tough they're next to impossible to recycle, which is lulzy.
But once the neodymium is refined it's there forever, and can be recast, etc, especially if it's used in a big generator motor. -
2019-12-26 at 10:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra yeah, he has a point though he rambles a lot.
Wind power is inefficient for the amount of space it takes, requires a LOT of maintenance and the bit about fumes is a reference to the immense amount of pollution created in the process of extracting and refining 'rare earth' magnets like neodymium.
most 'green' technologies are only green on one side of the supply chain.
He was also touching on the fact that those wind turbines would fail economically if that industry wasn't receiving major tax funded subsidies. -
2019-12-26 at 10:30 PM UTCdon't they lose their magnetism over time? most magnets do, generally slowly, but I've never really looked into it
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2019-12-26 at 10:32 PM UTC
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2019-12-26 at 10:44 PM UTCLike they push electric cars like no tomorrow, but they don't tell people the electricity people use for their electric cars is generated by fossil fuels. Just a huge shell game, and we're all being played like a fiddle.
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2019-12-26 at 10:46 PM UTCthe most promising 'green' energy sources are probably geothermal and tidal, which interestingly enough get a LOT less airtime than wind turbines and solar
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2019-12-26 at 11:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra don't they lose their magnetism over time? most magnets do, generally slowly, but I've never really looked into it
Originally posted by aldra the most promising 'green' energy sources are probably geothermal and tidal, which interestingly enough get a LOT less airtime than wind turbines and solar
The tidal thing looks promising as part of a larger solution. -
2019-12-26 at 11:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Like they push electric cars like no tomorrow, but they don't tell people the electricity people use for their electric cars is generated by fossil fuels. Just a huge shell game, and we're all being played like a fiddle.
Electric cars are more energy efficient than internal combustion engine ones, and even when efficiency losses from generation and transmission are taken into account (and something like 75% of energy is lost in those two) you still come out ahead.
Originally posted by aldra the most promising 'green' energy sources are probably geothermal and tidal, which interestingly enough get a LOT less airtime than wind turbines and solar
Hard to find places where geothermal is practical. Tidal just gets fucked up by the sea. And both those are very location sensitive, and require complex engineering to install, and engineers are expensive. Hence we tend to prefer energy sources that can be mass produced in a factory.
Wind works fine, but we'll probably see a big storm flip over a bunch of wind turbines before very long. They are supposed to survive something like a once in a century storm - which isn't much of a brag.
Solar I guess works if you have a sunny climate. There is also solar thermal as well as photovoltaics. They keep trying it here, which is a bad joke. -
2019-12-26 at 11:14 PM UTCHow about solar farms? Anybody know the pros and cons here
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2019-12-26 at 11:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by RottenRobert How about solar farms? Anybody know the pros and cons here
In theory they can produce a lot of electricity, but they also require a lot of maintenance, a lot of space and from memory, even the best-quality solar panels only last about 5 years before their efficiency drops -
2019-12-27 at 1:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Electric cars are more energy efficient than internal combustion engine ones, and even when efficiency losses from generation and transmission are taken into account (and something like 75% of energy is lost in those two) you still come out ahead.
Hard to find places where geothermal is practical. Tidal just gets fucked up by the sea. And both those are very location sensitive, and require complex engineering to install, and engineers are expensive. Hence we tend to prefer energy sources that can be mass produced in a factory.
Wind works fine, but we'll probably see a big storm flip over a bunch of wind turbines before very long. They are supposed to survive something like a once in a century storm - which isn't much of a brag.
Solar I guess works if you have a sunny climate. There is also solar thermal as well as photovoltaics. They keep trying it here, which is a bad joke.
Wind works but it costs more much more to produce the same amount of energy as from a source like coal. That is why the government has to subsidize the operation and construction of "wind farms".
