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2019-12-19 at 10:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE CAAAAANADA
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Off topic for a second. As a fan of Sammy Hagar with Ronnie Montrose, I was pissed when Van Halen kicked out Dave and brought in Sammy
yet they made great music for much longer than when David performed. I don't live in the past yet It just didn't feel like Van Halen. They should of called it Van Hagar
Still love for Sammy and I hope he stays in remission for Cancer of the Throat. Don't want to lost another 70s-80s idol. We just lost Eddie Money to the same bullshit diseaseThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-19 at 10:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fuck Your World Off topic for a second. As a fan of Sammy Hagar with Ronnie Montrose, I was pissed when Van Halen kicked out Dave and brought in Sammy
yet they made great music for much longer than when David performed. I don't live in the past yet It just didn't feel like Van Halen. They should of called it Van Hagar
Still love for Sammy and I hope he stays in remission for Cancer of the Throat. Don't want to lost another 70s-80s idol. We just lost Eddie Money to the same bullshit disease
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2019-12-19 at 10:30 PM UTC
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2019-12-19 at 11:59 PM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 12:03 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 12:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Hey come address it in the thread when I'm there rather than being a weasely little lying dishonest faggot
I already did. For 10 pages. Then I got bored. You seem upset.
Originally posted by ORACLE I didn't say "I believe it because the CIA said it". I said that there is no reason or evidence to say they are lying.
OK. You believe that 'Russians interfered in our election'. Your only 'evidence' is accusations and innuendo from the CIA. How is "I believe it because the CIA said it" inaccurate?
Originally posted by ORACLE You just said you don't believe it because it's just an allegation at Russia.
I don't believe it because the charge relies solely on accusations from an extremely unreliable source. It's both an accusation against Russia and an attack on the legitimacy of the 2016 election.
Originally posted by ORACLE These are reports produced for the benefit of our own government apparatus, to inform our decision making on issues that are American in nature i.e. our own political process. Nobody is saying "they are your friend" cunt, there is no evidence they are lying whatsoever.
You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the CIA. Like I recommended to Tech, read about the Church Commission, how they were found to be operating largely under their own authority with no accountability, and how that function was essentially restored after Jimmy Carter left office.
The CIA's purpose is essentially to support the concept of US empire and hegemony. They have little to no accountability by design; the President and the government at large allows them to do as they please for the most part in order to accomplish goals based in concepts like the Monroe Doctrine and PNAC. The reason for this is so that the government, or the state, can more easily deny and wash their hands of serious crimes committed by the CIA which further political goals - training terrorists and 'death squads' and teaching them to kill and torture effectively in order to stifle popular proto-communist movements for example (as per the famous KUBARK manuals).
Once you understand that, you understand one of the major reasons they're at odds with Trump, more specifically his policies and general isolationist platform.
Originally posted by ORACLE Don't try to play "just want evidence" you stupid motherfucker: you don't have any reason to believe the CIA is lying here. Nobody does you. The CIA is as credible a government source as the US government is going to get. What do you want Congress to do, say "I don't believe you, show me everything"?
And we're back to this again. You're taking CIA accusations at face value and trying to shift the anus onto the one being accused because 'there's no way the CIA would ever lie, right?'
I'd still ask for evidence regardless of who was making the accusation, assuming they were the only ones who claimed to have any proof and wouldn't release it.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-20 at 12:44 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 12:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE What the shit are you babbling about you Down's Syndrome cock vampire?
Who said complaining about the rain will stop the rain? You just don't need 5 people to tell you it's raining before breaking out the umbrella.
Very stupid analogy.
It'd be more accurate if you were to say it's not raining, but one person is telling you it is and to get out your umbrella.
In which case yes I'd ask why he thinks it's raining, and when he tells me it's 'top secret' I'd tell him to go fuck himself.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-20 at 1 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 1:13 AM UTC17 intelligence agencies and the President himself insisted Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. A neutral team was sent in to investigate. They found none. They went ahead anyways. After millions of lives lost, including US soldiers, and thousands more wounded or maimed for life, those same intelligence agencies said, whoops, and that's all that was required. Then you have these idiotic morons of today taking their word for major issues without even a second thought. Just goes to show how stupid and dangerous they really are to everyone else.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-12-20 at 1:16 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 1:53 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 1:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL 17 intelligence agencies and the President himself insisted Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. A neutral team was sent in to investigate. They found none. They went ahead anyways. After millions of lives lost, including US soldiers, and thousands more wounded or maimed for life, those same intelligence agencies said, whoops, and that's all that was required. Then you have these idiotic morons of today taking their word for major issues without even a second thought. Just goes to show how stupid and dangerous they really are to everyone else.
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2019-12-20 at 1:58 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 2:09 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 2:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I already did. For 10 pages. Then I got bored. You seem upset.
OK. You believe that 'Russians interfered in our election'. Your only 'evidence' is accusations and innuendo from the CIA. How is "I believe it because the CIA said it" inaccurate?
I don't believe it because the charge relies solely on accusations from an extremely unreliable source. It's both an accusation against Russia and an attack on the legitimacy of the 2016 election.
You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the CIA. Like I recommended to Tech, read about the Church Commission, how they were found to be operating largely under their own authority with no accountability, and how that function was essentially restored after Jimmy Carter left office.
The CIA's purpose is essentially to support the concept of US empire and hegemony. They have little to no accountability by design; the President and the government at large allows them to do as they please for the most part in order to accomplish goals based in concepts like the Monroe Doctrine and PNAC. The reason for this is so that the government, or the state, can more easily deny and wash their hands of serious crimes committed by the CIA which further political goals - training terrorists and 'death squads' and teaching them to kill and torture effectively in order to stifle popular proto-communist movements for example (as per the famous KUBARK manuals).
Once you understand that, you understand one of the major reasons they're at odds with Trump, more specifically his policies and general isolationist platform.
And we're back to this again. You're taking CIA accusations at face value and trying to shift the anus onto the one being accused because 'there's no way the CIA would ever lie, right?'
I'd still ask for evidence regardless of who was making the accusation, assuming they were the only ones who claimed to have any proof and wouldn't release it.
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2019-12-20 at 2:22 AM UTC
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2019-12-20 at 2:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I mean I could go find out, but it's not really relevant. The entire basis for the 2003 war was that the Iraqi government was enriching Uranium for weapons use; and after the attack there were no uranium OR chemical weapons found.
It wasn't just uranium, it was WMD's. And saddam had ample time to move them to like Syria, which used them as well. I suspect they were found but that the media wouldn't report it because it would make Bush look good and the media look biased.
