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2019-12-18 at 8:01 AM UTC
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2019-12-18 at 10:53 AM UTC
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2019-12-18 at 10:54 AM UTC……………………..….TRUMP IMPEACHMENT DAY…………………………………
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2019-12-18 at 12:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Last cell is actually poignant
it's the reason why US-flavoured capitalism hasn't fallen apart yet. There's an expression that the US is a nation of 'millionaires in waiting', that so many people endure relentless exploitation because they've been convinced that someday, if they work hard enough, they'll be on the other end of the saucepan handle.
I don’t believe that’s true at all. You have your money hungry people, but many are content to have a home and job security. Now these trump supporters may be stupid enough to believe they’re going somewhere, but they’re not. They’re stuck in their station in life waiting on trump to “save them”. Not gonna happen. -
2019-12-18 at 12:05 PM UTCScron,
Pay up. Trump will be impeached today.
PAY UP BUB!😁 -
2019-12-18 at 12:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist I don’t believe that’s true at all. You have your money hungry people, but many are content to have a home and job security. Now these trump supporters may be stupid enough to believe they’re going somewhere, but they’re not. They’re stuck in their station in life waiting on trump to “save them”. Not gonna happen.
lazy people who enjoy doing nothing and waiting for handouts arent trupm supporters.
trump is wellknown as an employee, ie, a boss.
and bosses are as we all know, antithesises to lazy people every where.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-18 at 12:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by RottenRobert ……………………..….TRUMP IMPEACHMENT DAY…………………………………
i just love all the "SHEEPLE" and how they "think" they're so informed on chit- but really havent a "real" fuq'n clue!
if you really knew your chit about how the government was ran... you'd realize what is "really" gonna happen!
Dumbos. -
2019-12-18 at 1:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra At this point it's frustrating that you people cannot understand what factors of the situation are important and just fall back on cold-war era programming; "Russia bad!" any time they're mentioned even in passing. Russia's not even relevant to this conversation, we were talking about the credibility of the US intelligence services and Falco deflected saying "we should believe them because Russia is worse". I literally spent 10 pages asking him for evidence for "Russia interfering in our elections" in the last thread and he finally came out with "because the CIA said so", which is just mind-numbing. You don't have to have an opinion on Russia at all to know it's not wise to take any intelligence agency at face value.
You goobers seem to think this is a zero-sum game where you have to back US or Russian intelligence agencies - NEITHER IS YOUR FRIEND, and you're going to get burned if you start trusting them just because they're attacking someone you don't like.
Hey come address it in the thread when I'm there rather than being a weasely little lying dishonest faggot
I didn't say "I believe it because the CIA said it". I said that there is no reason or evidence to say they are lying.
You just said you don't believe it because it's just an allegation at Russia.
Except it ain't: none of these are some kind of national indictment being taken to an international court to prosecute the country of Russia. It's pretty much not even about Russia itself in this context.
These are reports produced for the benefit of our own government apparatus, to inform our decision making on issues that are American in nature i.e. our own political process. Nobody is saying "they are your friend" cunt, there is no evidence they are lying whatsoever.
They specifically mention that the evidence is available but classified and not presented in the condensed reports, which is HOW FUCKING EVERYTHING WORKS. No intelligence agency is just gonna serve up their method of procurement
What YOU are asserting is that the CIA is playing some kind of deep state game to misinform our other institutions because... Because what, they want to make Russia look bad? No, YOU give evidence homo. Give evidence that the CIA is lying to our own government or a motive or something. Dishonest cunt.
No there is no super Solid Snake Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell CIA conspiracy to lie to Congress because they just want to fuck Trump. Zero evidence to believe it. This is just more QAnon retardation.
Don't try to play "just want evidence" you stupid motherfucker: you don't have any reason to believe the CIA is lying here. Nobody does you. The CIA is as credible a government source as the US government is going to get. What do you want Congress to do, say "I don't believe you, show me everything"?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-18 at 1:09 PM UTCSimple question: if tomorrow the CIA releases a report on the spiciness of various brands of salsa to inform a vote on salsa tariffs, would you think it's a reliable report or not?
If not, why not? Is it because they've lied in the past for stuff like COINTELPRO? Please say yes so I can rip you a new sphincter. -
2019-12-18 at 1:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Simple question: if tomorrow the CIA releases a report on the spiciness of various brands of salsa to inform a vote on salsa tariffs, would you think it's a reliable report or not?
If not, why not? Is it because they've lied in the past for stuff like COINTELPRO? Please say yes so I can rip you a new sphincter.
I'd find other "sauces" before making a decision. -
2019-12-18 at 1:14 PM UTC
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2019-12-18 at 1:15 PM UTCOur government runs on information from our intelligence agencies. Obviously a basic assumption we have for its functioning is that they are not straight up lying to us. Nobody is saying "believe everything". But no, it's not reasonable nor beneficial to just assume these lying jut cuz.
The proper channels and checks and balances already exist. The CIA is not a partisan organisation, it just can't be. Everything in the universe gets whistleblown these days and the only then remotely close on this is QAnon tardation -
2019-12-18 at 1:17 PM UTCOracle, i dont't know how far i'd go to say the CIA is reliable... its better, now, since many of the Clinton hinchmen got "booted"👍🏻
i'm still leary tho! 😳
ahhhhhh, whoaaaaaaa!!! hold up!!!
our "gooberment" does too, straight up lie to us!! and OFTEN. come now...
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2019-12-18 at 1:19 PM UTCAnyone who blindly believes one source, no matter what "side" it favors is an idiot.
(You don't need to research that statement, it's the truth...) -
2019-12-18 at 1:21 PM UTC^^ and he NEVER fibs!
hey,... wasup JIGGYMON. -
2019-12-18 at 1:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr Oracle, i dont't know how far i'd go to say the CIA is reliable… its better, now, since many of the Clinton hinchmen got "booted"👍🏻
i'm still leary tho! 😳
It's as reliable a source as anyone is going to get on the subject of FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE . Who else would even be able to tell you or investigate it?
If this was some kind of allegation in the UN to raise sanctions or some shit then yeah, everyone else should say "we will not act on this without further information". But it ain't. The ot people it's trying to inform is our own government and public. If someone thinks they are doing some deep state conspiracy, show me how, otherwise fuck off with trying to discredit official information.
More Trumpist propaganda to break down the American public's faith in our institutions. -
2019-12-18 at 1:26 PM UTCI don't get the big deal about foreign government interference anyway...OF FUCKING COURSE other countries want to influence the governments of other/rival countries...the US has been doing it since it's "birth"...as has pretty much every country in the world.
Jesus Maria and the other fella, as me old mom used to say. -
2019-12-18 at 1:27 PM UTCOral
government is corrupt... it always has been, always will be. Some leaders will be better than others... but "changing" the system??! won't happen.
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2019-12-18 at 1:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE It's as reliable a source as anyone is going to get on the subject of FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE . Who else would even be able to tell you or investigate it?
If this was some kind of allegation in the UN to raise sanctions or some shit then yeah, everyone else should say "we will not act on this without further information". But it ain't. The ot people it's trying to inform is our own government and public. If someone thinks they are doing some deep state conspiracy, show me how, otherwise fuck off with trying to discredit official information.
More Trumpist propaganda to break down the American public's faith in our institutions.
Imagine trusting institutions. -
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