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  1. #41
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    OP you live you learn. If your heat is electricity then turn down the thermostats, wear more clothes, pull a blanket over yourself when on the computer or the couch, and heat strategically - for instance an electric blanket is cheap to run, a heater to heat a whole bedroom isn't. Use less hot water, only heat the rooms you need, put up curtains over your windows, block off any drafts, and don't heat the place when you're not home or late at night when you're asleep.

    Electrical heating is by definition 0% efficient, so there is nothing wrong with your heaters that is causing them to use more electricity or anything like that.

    Don't even bother worrying about lights or computers or TVs or anything like that. Those use barely any electricity - might at most use maybe 1kw if all switched on, and that is all being turned into heat anyway.

    The big consumers are things like electrical heaters, that use about 2kw each, or washing machines and dryers, which use about 2kw when heating water or drying clothes. Immersion heaters are between 3-5kw when heating water, they shut off when they're not. Electrical showers that heat water can be 13kw, they are real serious users of electricity, but if you only use them for 10 minutes a day or so it's not worth worrying about - it works out about 20c per shower.

    I don't even regard what you are paying, which is less than $10 a day, as being a massive amount for heat to be honest, heating places in the winter is expensive, and it's something you will need to specifically budget for.
  2. #42
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Originally posted by AngryIVer PM me later Fona, I'll help you with your bills. I got my electric bill down to $100 from $300 over the last year.

    Per month you pay 100 or. Per yr. Cant be. Per yr.
  3. #43
    For a 600sq ft apartment your leccy bill should be $80-$120 a month...stop leaving your oven on 24/7.
  4. #44
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    I suspect the water heater
  5. #45
    stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Originally posted by Fonaplats Yeah, we can afford to pay it but the point is
    I dont want to.



    So, if I understand you correctly, you expect to skip out on your bills leaving your landlord in a financial bind so that his credit score is damaged and his kids don't get Christmas presents this year?

    Grow the fuck up.
  6. #46
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by stl1 So, if I understand you correctly, you expect to skip out on your bills leaving your landlord in a financial bind so that his credit score is damaged and his kids don't get Christmas presents this year?

    Grow the fuck up.

    Oooh damn... Pops is livid .
  7. #47
    stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    I just don't agree with landlord bashing (as a general rule). Does not apply to slum lords. A lot of landlords have invested their hard earned money to better their and their family's income. If tenants don't keep up their end, it affects their lives negatively.
  8. #48
    Fuck it nigga just get a few 1000w hps lamps, some fans and ducting and light the place up. Use the profits from growing weed to cover the cost of power and smoke for free

    Just don't do anything wild like put the bill in shells name, grow a bunch of weed, never pay for the power and one day she comes home and you are gone
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  9. #49
    AngryIVer African Astronaut [my jade controlled morrigan]
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country OP you live you learn. If your heat is electricity then turn down the thermostats, wear more clothes, pull a blanket over yourself when on the computer or the couch, and heat strategically - for instance an electric blanket is cheap to run, a heater to heat a whole bedroom isn't. Use less hot water, only heat the rooms you need, put up curtains over your windows, block off any drafts, and don't heat the place when you're not home or late at night when you're asleep.

    Electrical heating is by definition 0% efficient, so there is nothing wrong with your heaters that is causing them to use more electricity or anything like that.

    Don't even bother worrying about lights or computers or TVs or anything like that. Those use barely any electricity - might at most use maybe 1kw if all switched on, and that is all being turned into heat anyway.

    The big consumers are things like electrical heaters, that use about 2kw each, or washing machines and dryers, which use about 2kw when heating water or drying clothes. Immersion heaters are between 3-5kw when heating water, they shut off when they're not. Electrical showers that heat water can be 13kw, they are real serious users of electricity, but if you only use them for 10 minutes a day or so it's not worth worrying about - it works out about 20c per shower.

    I don't even regard what you are paying, which is less than $10 a day, as being a massive amount for heat to be honest, heating places in the winter is expensive, and it's something you will need to specifically budget for.

    Um, false. Electric heat by definition is 100% efficient because 100% of the energy consumed is turned in to heat. The fuels used to CREATE the electricity are what makes it expensive.
  10. #50
    >100%
  11. #51
    AngryIVer African Astronaut [my jade controlled morrigan]
    Originally posted by Wariat Per month you pay 100 or. Per yr. Cant be. Per yr.

    Per month, and I'm able to keep the heat at a comfortable 72o, and I don't live in a dimly lit cavern.

    It's all been covered in this thread though. Use less lights, turn the heat down when you aren't home and at night, et cetera. The big things I did were replacing all the light bulbs with LED, adjusting the thermostat during the times I'm not home, not running ACs during the day when I'm not home, and making 100% sure every light is off when I'm not using them. Usually after dinner I'll turn off ceiling lights and turn on lower wattage lamps too. Like, yeah, TVs, cell phones, et cetera don't consume a lot of power individually, but if you're leaving multiple devices running 24/7 the shit adds up.
  12. #52
    Japan-Is-Eternal Naturally Camouflaged
    Good for you OP
    That house looked like a total shithole
  13. #53
    Did you upgrade chells alternator and build a sterling engine yet or are you still sitting around with your basketball shorts around your ankles cramminng fish sticks of false outrage up your asshole lil arny
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  14. #54
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by AngryIVer Per month, and I'm able to keep the heat at a comfortable 72o, and I don't live in a dimly lit cavern.

    It's all been covered in this thread though. Use less lights, turn the heat down when you aren't home and at night, et cetera. The big things I did were replacing all the light bulbs with LED, adjusting the thermostat during the times I'm not home, not running ACs during the day when I'm not home, and making 100% sure every light is off when I'm not using them. Usually after dinner I'll turn off ceiling lights and turn on lower wattage lamps too. Like, yeah, TVs, cell phones, et cetera don't consume a lot of power individually, but if you're leaving multiple devices running 24/7 the shit adds up.

    I leave my bathroom fan on like 99% of the time. I don't even know why. It's probably been running for 2 years and 11 months of the total 3 years I've lived here.

    Anyway even in the winter here my bill is never over 60 or 70 bucks. Xcel energy. I think they cover minnesota too is that who you go through?
  15. #55
    AngryIVer African Astronaut [my jade controlled morrigan]
    Originally posted by mmQ I leave my bathroom fan on like 99% of the time. I don't even know why. It's probably been running for 2 years and 11 months of the total 3 years I've lived here.

    Anyway even in the winter here my bill is never over 60 or 70 bucks. Xcel energy. I think they cover minnesota too is that who you go through?

    Yeah, but I could get that extra $30-40 off if I did a few more simple maintenance items to the house. Honestly it's not worth the money on the property though.
  16. #56
    WellHung Black Hole
    Ur just lazy, helladouchebag.
  17. #57
    AngryIVer African Astronaut [my jade controlled morrigan]
    Someone's jell that they have to suck dick for hamburgers I see.



    Let me break this down for you: It's not worth $4000 to rip out the floors and re-insulate a $700 trailer house from '72
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