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  1. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra I didn't handwave shit.

    "hey,got a dollar?"
    "maybe in this wading pool full of shit lol, just feel around"

    FYI I've read plenty of them already and I'm not wading around in more sgit just because she did a quick Google search

    Shut up Australasian faggot.
  2. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by 6011UM And you're taking Trump at his word.

    I'm actually just starting with the basis of the justice (sic) system, innocent until proven guilty
  3. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ORACLE Shut up Australasian faggot.

    does it hurt that much that foreigners understand your domestic politics better than you
  4. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra I'm actually just starting with the basis of the justice (sic) system, innocent until proven guilty

    That's a legal standard for criminal cases which, as we have already established, this is not.
  5. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ORACLE That's a legal standard for criminal cases which, as we have already established, this is not.

    Don't be a faggot. All I'm saying is that to make an accusation like 'Russia hacked our election' you should at least have some concrete evidence of such. I've done a significant amount of reading on the matter and outside of a few thousand dollars' worth of social media advertising originating from Russian IP ranges (ie. no overt ties to the Russian government) to the best of my knowledge there is zero evidence of (illegal) Russian interference in the 2016 US election, state OR private, in the public domain.


    ***And none of the proponents of the theory have been able to provide any so far short of quoting 'intelligence' sources saying, again without evidence, that that's what happened.
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  6. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra Don't be a faggot. All I'm saying is that to make an accusation like 'Russia hacked our election' you should at least have some concrete evidence of such. I've done a significant amount of reading on the matter and outside of a few thousand dollars' worth of social media advertising originating from Russian IP ranges (ie. no overt ties to the Russian government) to the best of my knowledge there is zero evidence of (illegal) Russian interference in the 2016 US election, state OR private, in the public domain.


    ***And none of the proponents of the theory have been able to provide any so far short of quoting 'intelligence' sources saying, again without evidence, that that's what happened.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

    Click little numbers where you doubt.
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  7. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    no I'm not going back in the wading pool

    like I said I've spent too long in there already.

    all I'm asking for is a single piece of concrete evidence.
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  8. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra no I'm not going back in the wading pool

    like I said I've spent too long in there already.

    all I'm asking for is a single piece of concrete evidence.

    Then shut the fuck up.

    You're literally saying someone needs to boil a highly complex and extensive set of developments into an autism summary because you refuse to put in the effort.

    You don't get to say "show me the evidence" then say "I don't like the way this evidence is presented".
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  9. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ORACLE Then shut the fuck up.

    You're literally saying someone needs to boil a highly complex and extensive set of developments into an autism summary because you refuse to put in the effort.

    No you fucking nigger. It's not complicated. I'm asking for a single piece of evidence that isn't hearsay.

    If there was a legitimate basis to any of this it would be easy for you to point to 'one of the numbers' and say 'look here's a security company's report indicating that ballot machines were hacked' and we can go from there.

    Instead every time I ask it's 'here are a thousand links I found that I didn't bother to read either, go through them, there's probably evidence in there somewhere'. Are you even aware of how many sham investigations Mueller has been a part of? He literally got the US government sued for witchhunting a guy after the anthrax scares.

    Just fuck right off until you can actually back up anything you have to say without throwing up walls of spurious garbage.
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  10. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra No you fucking nigger. It's not complicated. I'm asking for a single piece of evidence that isn't hearsay.

    If there was a legitimate basis to any of this it would be easy for you to point to 'one of the numbers' and say 'look here's a security company's report indicating that ballot machines were hacked' and we can go from there.

    Instead every time I ask it's 'here are a thousand links I found that I didn't bother to read either, go through them, there's probably evidence in there somewhere'. Are you even aware of how many sham investigations Mueller has been a part of? He literally got the US government sued for witchhunting a guy after the anthrax scares.

    Just fuck right off until you can actually back up anything you have to say without throwing up walls of spurious garbage.

    What I mean by it not being a legal matter is simple: innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is the criteria by which we convict someone of criminal and throw them in jail. When a 30 page indictment goes down a laundry list of extremely specific points, that means the prosecutor is prepared to fuck with each one. Do you think they just made it up? What I'm saying is, it is perfectly reasonable to look at it and conclude X based in lots of signs pointing there. We're not throwing him in jail.

    Nobody is seriously saying that Russia literally jacked in and changed votes to Trump you moron. I'm fully familiar with 100% of the facts of the investigation.

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html
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  11. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Two FBI agents were waiting near Seth Rich's home the night he was murdered. As Seth was returning from the bar, the two agents stepped out of the shadows and began talking to him. They told him he had something they were looking for. They identified themselves. Seth told them he didn't have what they wanted and tried to pass, but they grabbed him and began trying to search his pockets. Seth tore away, and as he ran, one of the agents shot him in the back, and then again when he fell. A third FBI agent was nearby and then arrived. Together, the three agents fled the scene. The FBI then concocted the robbery story and sent it out to the mainstream media.
  12. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-twitter-support-for-trump-began-right-after-he-started-campaign-1509964380

    https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2213767-dutch-intelligence-first-to-alert-u-s-about-russian-hack-of-democratic-party.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/11/what-happened-and-when-the-timeline-leading-up-to-donald-trump-jr-s-fateful-meeting/
  13. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ORACLE What I mean by it not being a legal matter is simple: innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is the criteria by which we convict someone of criminal and throw them in jail. When a 30 page indictment goes down a laundry list of extremely specific points, that means the prosecutor is prepared to fuck with each one. Do you think they just made it up?

    In many cases they have or intentionally misconstrued facts, case in point being the Crowdstrike whitepaper that initially set this off. In many others there's no way for anyone to truly verify because it's based on 'anonymous leaks' or 'classified intel'.

    When a 30 page indictment goes down a laundry list of extremely specific points

    Again I'm only asking for one.

    Originally posted by ORACLE https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

    This is purely for show because they know there is a zero chance that Russian nationals will ever face US court (would the US allow Russia to extradite its citizens without providing evidence of a crime?). Putin personally offered to open a joint investigation but was rebuffed.

    Originally posted by ORACLE https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

    I am very well aware of the so-called IRA and the mythos that surrounds it. It was actually very likely a CIA operation; it's had some very interesting incidents in the Russian legal system.
  14. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ORACLE https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-twitter-support-for-trump-began-right-after-he-started-campaign-1509964380

    https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2213767-dutch-intelligence-first-to-alert-u-s-about-russian-hack-of-democratic-party.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/11/what-happened-and-when-the-timeline-leading-up-to-donald-trump-jr-s-fateful-meeting/

    Originally posted by aldra Instead every time I ask it's 'here are a thousand links I found that I didn't bother to read either, go through them, there's probably evidence in there somewhere'. Are you even aware of how many sham investigations Mueller has been a part of? He literally got the US government sued for witchhunting a guy after the anthrax scares.

    Just fuck right off until you can actually back up anything you have to say without throwing up walls of spurious garbage.
  15. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra Putin personally offered to open a joint investigation but was rebuffed.

    Lol

    But don't believe US intelligence. It's all hearsay. Don't be stupid people.
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  16. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Charges? What charges? I think you have the term charges confused with "an endless series of debunked allegations."

    But please, indulge us. Detail just 10% of what you claim. List 3 things Trump has been charged with and the evidence to support those charges.

    inb4facepalm



    Originally posted by ORACLE https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

    Click little numbers where you doubt.

    Holy circular references batman!
  17. Netflxchillr African Astronaut
    It was the Hillary campaign that was behind the FISA warrants that Comey had signed to surveillance the TRUMP campaign, not the other way around... you silly yuk-yuks. That has already been established.
  18. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra In many cases they have or intentionally misconstrued facts, case in point being the Crowdstrike whitepaper that initially set this off. In many others there's no way for anyone to truly verify because it's based on 'anonymous leaks' or 'classified intel'.



    Again I'm only asking for one.

    Source on them being misconstrued?



    This is purely for show because they know there is a zero chance that Russian nationals will ever face US court (would the US allow Russia to extradite its citizens without providing evidence of a crime?). Putin personally offered to open a joint investigation but was rebuffed.

    Are you serious? Seriously asking. You really think they will get to the bottom of Russian interference through Russia?



    I am very well aware of the so-called IRA and the mythos that surrounds it. It was actually very likely a CIA operation; it's had some very interesting incidents in the Russian legal system.

    I'm sure you will source this claim.
  19. 6011UM Tuskegee Airman
    Holy shit at aldra using Putin's word but won't accept the CIA lol. He really is a brainwashed little toad. It's very well known that Russia has been interfering in Western elections for a long time. China is doing the same in his country like they have been in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore for decades.

    But you probably won't find aldra arguing about that.
  20. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by 6011UM Holy shit at aldra using Putin's word but won't accept the CIA lol. He really is a brainwashed little toad. It's very well known that Russia has been interfering in Western elections for a long time. China is doing the same in his country like they have been in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore for decades.

    But you probably won't find aldra arguing about that.

    And that's why Trump won?

    How? What did they do? Apart from "hack" it.
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