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2019-11-14 at 5:14 AM UTCNatural Selection Comes to Edinburgh — Before Darwin
Long before Darwin (or Alfred Russel Wallace), James Hutton, the father of modern geology, propounded the idea of evolution by natural selection. And at least two other men followed on his heels, doing the same well before Darwin articulated the idea.
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2019-11-14 at 5:39 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Darwin quite literally took a shotgun and collected thousands of specimens such as finches and collaborated with Alfred Russel Wallace to back up his theory, as well as heavily relying on the work of Malthus's demography and Lyell's geology to prove two fundamental parts of his hypothesis (Malthus = struggle for existence due to exponential population growth be arithmetic resource growth, Lyell for uniformitarianism to provide fossil hypotheses that can be tested geologically).
"collaborate"
You mean stole his work and didn't give him any credit? -
2019-11-14 at 6:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 Natural Selection Comes to Edinburgh — Before Darwin
Long before Darwin (or Alfred Russel Wallace), James Hutton, the father of modern geology, propounded the idea of evolution by natural selection. And at least two other men followed on his heels, doing the same well before Darwin articulated the idea.
Darwin is a FAKE!!
James Hutton contributed to geology and the development of the principle of uniformitarianism, he didn't have natural selection.
Everybody already knew about hereditary change, they even had breeder's equations for heritability and had been inducing change through breeding for millennia, for example in dogs and plants.
Choosing the best traits to make an organism's lineage change in a desirable direction had been a thing for millennia.
Even Darwin's grandfather knew about heredity
What was unknown, and put together by Darwin and Wallace, was the mechanism for evolution as it occured in nature, without a selector such as a breeder, that picked the best genes. Wallace and Darwin actually did the legwork and put together a coherent theory that could be used to make predictions.
They also didn't know the genetic basis of it till Mendel's work was rediscovered from obscurity, published in some weird mountain village paper in the middle of nowhere. -
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2019-11-14 at 1:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE They both corresponded while Darwin was in South America and Wallace was in SEA. Then they published together at the Royal Society.
Have you read his malaysian archipelago books? I have. Wallace got robbed. He did not get recognition until much later. He was too much of a Darwin fanboy and didn't care much either, but Darwin still fucked him. -
2019-11-14 at 1:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Everybody already knew about hereditary change, they even had breeder's equations for heritability and had been inducing change through breeding for millennia, for example in dogs and plants.
Choosing the best traits to make an organism's lineage change in a desirable direction had been a thing for millennia.
Even Darwin's grandfather knew about heredity
Good thing we now understand that heritability doesn't apply to humans. -
2019-11-14 at 1:24 PM UTC
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Originally posted by 6011UM Have you read his malaysian archipelago books? I have. Wallace got robbed. He did not get recognition until much later. He was too much of a Darwin fanboy and didn't care much either, but Darwin still fucked him.
Nope, worth a read? I only know this stuff from biology class years ago. I know next to nothing about ARW but I remember that they corresponded and co-published for the Royal Society. I guess there were a lot of extra nuances I missed. -
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2019-11-14 at 1:52 PM UTCLEWANDOWSKI WAS A MESS
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2019-11-14 at 1:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Nope, worth a read? I only know this stuff from biology class years ago. I know next to nothing about ARW but I remember that they corresponded and co-published for the Royal Society. I guess there were a lot of extra nuances I missed.
Depends how interested in it you are. I printed out a map to follow along his journeys and it was a lot of fun. Been a while tho. He gets kidnapped by pirates and all sorts of crazy shit. He spent considerably more time than Darwin actually traveling.
Didn't realize it till I went to the jungle but my god, the biodiversity is insane. The Malaysian Archipelago is one of the most diverse places on Earth too.
Good books. Read with a map handy. -
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2019-11-14 at 3:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 they are called Democrats. and from the moment Hills was outed for cheating Bernie, the shit hit the fan sideways and hard. ever since then, the Democrats, still wiping fresh blood dripping from their torn rectums, have done nothing but Entrap Trump to bring this here and now.
but these worthless Dems forget the voters where the Electoral Vote Matters, have been watching these bitches for four years just waiting to f-em hard again!!
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2019-11-14 at 4:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 i have this debate with my brother, who is queer, by way of being molested as a child, by men, who paid his mother, a prostitute, for sex, and when she passed out they raped my brother. and he tells me, he is insane because of it and knows being queer is not natural.
Iam confirmed for brother fucker -
2019-11-14 at 9:57 PM UTCLooks like it's game over for the farce. Graham just went on record to say that, because there was no opportunities for Trump's side to defend him in the hearing, and because the hearing was based entirely on hearsay, he's going to make sure it never even reaches the Senate. He just made the promise a few hours ago.