A thread to the creation of what is a Cage and the studies of it:
Con Air Cameron Poe, Army Ranger, because of his military training he is a deadly weapon.
Rangers lead the way. Never leave a fallen man behind.
"How do I live with out you?" Song ominisciouly plays as The Cage gets closer to entering the room.
The Cage can call him Gomer. As disrepect to Poes army ways. Like Gomer Pyle.
Rides planes with black people.
Beautiful daughter named Casey. Maybe I could play the role of Poes daughter?
"As long as I make it home on time it makes no never mind"
"Willie Bedlam" Nathan Jones AKA Dimond Dog" "Cyrus Grissom AKA Cyrus the Virus" "Joe Parker AKA Pinball Parker" "Swamp Thing" "Garland Greene AKA the Marietta Mangler" All Riding the plane. Could be usable. Maybe a PTSD Poe and starts calling The Cage a bunch of names in trying to get home. If you go that route he needs to have a stuffed bunny.
Cyrus says, "Welcome to Con Air." Good pre fight line.
'Fuck you trailer trash!' "Hey, my mama lives in a trailer" Good line but probably not usable.
"Nothing makes me sadder than the Cage who lost his bladder in the.. aaaairplane." Could change airplane to something else. Would be pretty funny.
"I'se can play house nigga but when we land, day of the dog begins." The best quotes from the movie aren't from Poe. He's a very one dimensional charachter.
Greene talking about Willies condition. "A font of misplaced rage. He's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain. Gives him head aches. Happiness, for that gentleman hurts" Wicked quote but probably unusable.
A cop calls Larkin, Poe wrote on Pinballs shirt about where they're landing. Lerner air field. But Poe wrote 'Marshall Vince Larkin' on Pinball to get it to the right person. Larkin asks, "what's this got to with me about a body falling out of the sky?" Cop replys, "It's got your name writen all over it." That's definitly usable
I knew you was a punk all along. "I said, put the bunny back in the box." Maybe the cage walks int the room and there's a box. He opens it and pulls out a bunny? Ending movie scene where he's drinking mai tais and stuff, as the camera pans up he says, "Why couldn't you just put the bunny back in the box?"
"I got nothing in common with you! With them! Don't you talk to me! They were insane!" When Greene mentions two went down and one came up. Greene says most murders are crimes of necessity rather than desire. Than Greene brings up Dahmer, Bundy and Gacy. Could be used as a talking point about all his roles The Cage had to fight. Greene, 'Now we're talking semantics.' Depending how many people the cage kills in trying to get back to being the cage, "Murdering 30 people, semantics or not, is insane."
He's a 'ranger boy'
"There's only two men I trust. One of them's me. The other isn't you." Poe telling that to The Cage would be hilarious. Larkin: 'What are you going to do for me?' G Rider loced out Cameron Poe: "What do you think I'm going to do? Save the fucking day."
When they're pulling the plane they flew in that got stock in Larken Field, there's a split second you can see Diamond Dog whipping the white dudes using thick ass ropes to try to pull it out. Unrelated to your movie script but I laughed.
Cyrus is about to kill some dude who traitored him. The guy is pleading knowing he has the lowest hand and says, "Cy……" hoping for redemption. Cyrus, the baller he is, throws a cigarette at the fumes and says, "narya." As in Syanarya. Now usable but a great line.
You already have the yahtzee and mai tai line. But he follows it up with 'Lets do this'
Cyrus holding a gun to the stuffed bunnys head. "Make a move and the bunny get's it."
"I'm gonna show you god does exist"
Gets shot in the arm. Doesn't give a fuck. Doesn't break his stride in power walking to punch someone out.
Almost punches the cross dresser, thinks better of it and just slaps it. Man this movie is great.
"Buckle up." I don't know. The last third part of the movie sucks.
Epic fight goes down to 'How do I live without you' By Leanne Ryhmes.
Cameron Poe is a very one dimensional character. Loves his family and would do anything to protect them. Much like his close friends he trusts. He would risk Con Air to make sure his buddy got his insulin. Nothing goes deeper than that. He's a shell of a character. It's a hollywood character that could fit any role that needed the good guy portrayed as a bad guy. The audience knows he's a good guy but every character but one sees him as a plague to society. No depth to Poe but still a great movie.
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Use to be an adrenaline junkie. Grew up to realize he didn't want to influence his younger brother. Big heart. Will fight for what is right. To the death if need be.
Hangs out with black people.
Right before the fight starts he has to do the hand thingy he does right before they start stealing the cars. "(Hands shaking) "OK… Let's ride."
Has moved on with his life and is in a better/happier place. What would motivate him to kill The Cage? Maybe The Cage goes into a room and finds a tied and gagged Kip Raines. In bursts Memphis and sums up the situation at face value. The Cage explaining the situation: "Do I look like an asshole?" Memphis; "…Yeah."
Never mentioned but implied a master car mechanic.
“I didn’t do it for the money. I did it for the cars. Gleaming in marina blue, sunfire yellow, Marlboro red, begging to be plucked, and I’d do it. I’d boost her, and just blast to Palm Springs. Instantly feeling better about being me.”
"Self indulgent weiner"
The Shelby GT 500 is dubbed Eleanor. Maybe The cage questions why it's a fight to the death. Instead of batmans, 'RACHEL!' Go with "Eleanor!'
All the cars are called girls names. Could be funny to have Memphis call cage a bunch of girls names like Perry from scrubs. 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air Convertible (Codename: Stefanie) 1998 Dodge Viper GTS (Codename: Denise) 1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Big Block (Codename: Stacey) 1999 Bentley Azure (Codename: Laura) 1999 Humvee 2-Door Pickup (Codename: Tracy) 1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing (Codename: Dorothy) 1971 De Tomaso Pantera (Codename: Kate) 1950 Mercury Custom (Codename: Gabriela) 1999 Ferrari 550 Maranello (Codename: Angelina) 1966 Shelby AC Cobra (Codename: Ashley) 1965 Pontiac GTO (Codename: Sharon) 1998 Toyota Supra Turbo (Codename: Lynn) 1987 Ferrari Testarossa (Codename: Rose) 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird (Codename: Jessica) 1994 Jaguar XJ220 (Codename: Bernadene) 1958 Cadillac El Dorado Brougham (Codename: Patricia) 1971 Plymouth Hemi Barracuda (Codename: Shannon) 1998 Mercedes-Benz SL600 (Codename: Ellen) 1953 Chevrolet Corvette (Codename: Pamela) 1999 Lexus LS400 (Codename: Hillary) 2000 GMC Yukon (Codename: Megan) 1997 Porsche 911 Turbo (Codename: Tanya) 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona (Codename: Vanessa) 1961 Porsche Speedster (Codename: Stefanie)
Making his change to help his brother lost the love of his life. So Memphis doesn't have commitment issues. Heart is just too big for his own good.
Entire scene is done in a dirty warehouse with a bunch of black lights. Name of cars on glowing on the wall? "I know we got a history Eleanor [Cage]. I know that history hasn't been that great, but I promise,You take care of me, I'll take care of you" Straight to the hand "let's ride move before the fight.
"It never Raines but it pours."
Constantly exhaling. Like when he's feeling the rush of boosting a car.
If the real The Cage wins the fight, he wins with brass knuckles. Disposes of the live Memphis being crushed in a Shelby GT 500.
When Memphis, in the movie is getting back on top, kicking the bad guy."You just made the biggest mistake trying to kill me!" Start that pre fight and The Cage pulls out a gun and starts shooting as Memphis miraculously dives out of the way.
'Stars and stripes draped all over your coffin. It'll be the greatest day of your life'
"Here I am smack dab in a moral dilemma Nick [Randall]. Tore this town to shreds with this little escapades of ours. With you and your little Eleanor. But I understand what brought you back here. A brothers love is…. a brothers love. " Can probably use something from that.
"You're a heap and I'm a stream lined butterfly." (Not a direct quote but kinda close.)
Over all Memphis Raines is a pretty one dimensional character. The movie is entertaining but bad. Towards the end the character doesn't have any special outstanding qualities so I just started grabbing quotes. Quotes you might be able to use. If not so what. I'll move on to a new Cage movie tomorrow.[/quote
Originally posted by TOTALLYNOTOMGPLZDNTBAN
Alright. That's a pretty fucking good LOLcat. I bow down in defeat. Teach me your ways please.
Turns out it was inside you the whole time. Believe in yourself and I'll try my best to push you in the right direction. Don't EVER use your LOLcats for evil. I almost went down that path but got out right before the law changed.
Sarin gas is a G.B aerosol. Could be used for a finished fight? Let's see how the movie plays out.
Atropine
Un-married but has a good woman he loves and live together. She's pregnant and a catholic. He promises to marry her.
"You come very highly reccomended."
Specialty is chemical weapons. Knows a lot of the top of his brain when talking about the gas. So if he knows something, it kinda assumes he know all about it.
'Sir Walter Raleigh, Alcamenes, Solzhenitsyn. And they were all wrongfully imprisoned.' see how the movie goes. Might look that up later if relevant.
During fight and The Cage questions why he's fighting Stanley, "You're on a need to know basis, and you don't need to know."
Is packing a gun given to him from the FBI? Nice move during the fight when he's losing to pull out a gun.
Steals a 1951 Plymouth Cranbrook P23 to do what The Cage does. Bring justice. Could make a Gone in Seconds reference?
Oh shit. I didn't eat anything today and I'm wasted. Made myself a sandwhich. I made a commitment to get these notes done. I'm a man of my word. (one minute later) Yup. I'm done for tonight. Nothing I write down from here on out will be of use.
48 minutes in. Stanley does some awesome facial acting after the rail car going off the rails. Then steals some kids dirt bike. 'Hey man, You just fucked up your ferrari.' Stone cold response, "It's not mine."
'You ever been in a combat situation?' Stanley: "Define combat sir." Some jar head rattles off: "An incursion underwater to retake an impregnable fortress held by an elite team of U.S. Marines in possession of 81 hostages and 15 guided rockets armed with V.X. poison gas." Stanley: "In that case no sir. Excuse me…."
"My stomachs doing hula hoops around my ass. I always expected something like this would happen but nothing prepares you for it. Now I'm responsible for a whole city." This movie is the shit. Classic 90s action.
He was trained for this situation and besides, he has the best SEAL team in the country backing him up.
"There's something else. It's terrible. N-no, it's wonderful… Except it isn't. My girlfriends pregnant and she's just flown in to see me." This movie is quotable as fuck. Probably drop the girl friend part though. A man desperate to save thousands of lives. But is also still a man with life issues.
Goodspeed, Godspeed, godspell.
Connerys character: "Welcome to the rock."
Stanley is a pussy bitch. Doesn't want to be in this situation at all. Not used to anything this hairy. "You wanna play tough? You wanna play tough with me?" Holding a gun to Connery: "FBI! Freeze sucker! I'll fire!" 'No you won't.' "Throw down!" 'I could. You, no.' 'Let's find out. Besides, the safetys on.'
"I don't use guns and I don't kick down doors. This is what I do." Flashes badge. "Chemical weapons specialist."
Connery: "Do your best? Losers always whine about doing their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen." Stanley: "Carla was the prom queen."
"I'm just a biochemist. Most of the time, I work in a glass jar and lead a very uneventful life. I drive a volvo, a beige one. But what I'm dealing with here, is one of the most deadly substances the Earth has ever known. So what do you say cut me some friggin' slack?"
Stanley finally uses his gun and kills a man while yelling, "Die! Die! Die!'
"Bingo."
General Francis X. Hummel: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed time to time with the blood of patriots. -Thomas Jefferson"
"What is wrong with these people? Don't you think there's a lot of, uh, anger floating around this island? Kind of a pubescent volatility? Don't you think? A lot of angst, lot of 'I'm 16; I'm angry at my father' syndrome? I mean grow up!'
Some jar head: "Me and my boys are cocked blocked and ready to rock, sir."
"Listen. I think we got started on the wrong foot. Stan Goodspeed FBI. Do you like the Elton john Song Rocket Man?" "I only bring it up because, uh, it's you. You're the Rocket Man." Then blasts a black dude with a rocket and says, "How do you like how that shit works?"
Wanted to note him breaking through a boarded door but didn't. But he does it twice.
If it turns into a gay sex Cage on Stanley movie, "I love pressure."
It would be funny if The Cage wins, but Stanley finds the strength to plunge a needle into his heart to come back.
The etymology of the name Goodspeed is god speed. To wish someone a prosperous journey.
Micheal Bay film. The chase scene is retardedly ludicrous as fuck, A humvee barely misses four dudes in wheels chairs. Who thought that was a good idea? Over all a typical cage role. A bit a person who doesn't want to get in the shit but does what needs to be done. Great mid 90s flick. Better than Armeggedon. I don't know why I haven't ever heard of it. It's awesome.
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Originally posted by Greenspam
I know somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody that knows me who knows somebody that took classes from Crazy man George Kuchar.
While going to the fridge, sees a cockroach and eats it. Baller move.
"Shut up bitch." right after dry heaving.
"I'm a vam-pie-yuh!"
If he starts fucking up a room and ends with smashing a mirror during the pre-fight speech that'd be funny.
If The Cage comes into a room against Peter, you need an over turned couch as a make shift casket.
During the fight The cage rips off some curtains introducing sunlight that Peter recoils from.
How long is this movie? He pulls a dead pigeon out of his coat during his speech or fight? This movie is retarded. Classic Cage.
Tries to forcefully bit The Cage with plastic teeth during the fight.
Start fight and blinds get torn off allowing some sunlight. Peters weakness. Then as the fight builds throw him through a window into early morning sunlight and he loses his shit?
"Go ahead! Kill me!"
Towards end of fight Peter is carrying a large stake ripped from a pallet. But not to kill himself this time. But to take out The Cage.
And when he's over taken and knows he's going to lose, whines like a little bitch. "Ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!"
In the end of the fight. Peter is going insane. Trying to fight the wall. But there's cut's to an alternate reality in Peters head where he's kicking ass.
Could be funny if Peter goes so insane The Cage goes to the next room because he's over it and Peter ends up fighting himself. Or not. Has to die with the being stabbed in the heart from the pallet stake. Maybe The Cage is losing and grabs it randomly at the end?
The character is insane. It's a slow roll into insanity. I don't think the vampire chick ever existed. It was built into his own head by himself. So there's tons of room to work with what's real and what isn't. Depending on who's perspective you're writing for. If it's writing from The Cage than it's an irrational man talking to walls and arguing with no one. But if you can play it from Peters world, you can do almost what ever you want within character. I think the fight should start off normal but as it goes on Peter goes increasingly insane. And at some point The Cage rips the plastic fangs out of his mouth and spouts about he finds him despicable. A good joke after that would be something like, 'I was a new actor! I needed the role!'
Did you scan a browser page and found some of us talking about Cage's Monotone persona makes his performance a wonderful experience yet repetitive at times?
And then this angered you and you came here for what you thought was Damage Control when no one said he was a terrible actor. Just Monotone in his voice.. which is his own trademark of sort.
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