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2017-01-15 at 8:29 AM UTChe's a very illogical person
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2017-01-15 at 10:23 AM UTCHe seems more like a sadist than an illogical person to me. Especially the God of the Old Testament.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
I think the most important part of the Old Testament for Christians is; I am The Lord your God, you shall have no Gods before me. Drop the rest of it in the trash. And listen to Jesus instead. -
2017-01-15 at 11:39 AM UTCGod aint real that means your retarded lololol
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2017-01-15 at 4:37 PM UTClogic aint shit
Originally posted by Sophie He seems more like a sadist than an illogical person to me. Especially the God of the Old Testament.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
that's how you have to be. monotheistic gods are just the archetype of the apex predator.
there's nothing wrong with being petty, because the devil is in the details.
being 'unjust' is not what you call someone who has to make decisions that hurt some people and help others. leaders have to make hard decisions. justice has nothing to fucking do with it.
jealous is right. that which is mine, is mine alone, and that which i desire shall be mine yet. this is the rule of material life, where we are not ghosts that subsist on fog and vapor.
unforgiving is righteousness. because forgiveness is wrong. it does not change what has happened. it's a foible to forgive.
being a control freak is right. the point of consciousness itself is to take control over the environment.
being vindictive is right. because if you suffer yourself to be harmed and do not retaliate, the jackals will smell your impending death and gather around.
being bloodthirsty is right. someone that isn't willing to kill without a second thought isn't willing to live without a second thought. this earth is an abattoir. we are all ruled over by death, and to indulge in wanton bloodshed is to make the earth smile in pride at her children, who starve on her lap.
ethnic cleansing is just and proper, for just as you love yourself more than your mother, and your mother more than your brother, and your family more than your clan, and your clan more than your race, and your race more than a foreign race, but a human more than an animal, if you aren't willing to combat those whose blood is foreign to yours, you prove that you are a creature without love at all. and in the end, cleanliness is next to godliness.
misogyny is required for a stable social structure. women are lesser beings than men; their souls are smaller, their brains are undeveloped, they are breeding stock, and if they are not treated as such, your family, your country, your race, will die.
homophobia is right. for a man to submit sexually to another man is an abhorrent perversion of all that is natural to man, and you must cast out this disease from your tribe.
racism is truth. diversity is not strength. uniformity is strength. all races are different. and it is in knowing the differences between things that we obtain to wisdom.
infanticide is necessary, for crushing an enemy, you must kill his next generation. suffer none to live.
genocide is the art by which earth will eventually become beautiful. all advanced civilizations that visit our planet from other stars at one time went through genocide after genocide until they had selected the perfect race.
filicide is necessary at times. if a baby does not even know it's name, it is not a person, for a person has a name, and no one will weep for its death.
pestilence? you mean biological warfare? whats your beef with sustainable, organic weaponry?
megalomania? you mean having a strong ego and being someone? make no mistake, in these days of cowardice and smallness of spirit, any strong signs of life and consciousness will be called sickness.
whats wrong with sadomasochism? what are you, a puritan?
if you do not have the capacity for capricious malevolence as a person, you are like a porcupine without its spines: a tasty, succulent treat for anyone that cares to make the effort to eat you.
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2017-01-15 at 5:21 PM UTCHoney, it's terrible! The kids got into the Stirner again and it's a total mess.
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2017-01-15 at 5:27 PM UTCphilosophy is one of the most cucked college majors
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2017-01-15 at 5:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by the holy ghost philosophy is one of the most cucked college majors
basically yeah. i don't know what you hope to learn about philosophy by reading other philosophers anyways. that's not how learning works.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-01-15 at 5:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib logic aint shit
that's how you have to be. monotheistic gods are just the archetype of the apex predator.
there's nothing wrong with being petty, because the devil is in the details.
being 'unjust' is not what you call someone who has to make decisions that hurt some people and help others. leaders have to make hard decisions. justice has nothing to fucking do with it.
jealous is right. that which is mine, is mine alone, and that which i desire shall be mine yet. this is the rule of material life, where we are not ghosts that subsist on fog and vapor.
unforgiving is righteousness. because forgiveness is wrong. it does not change what has happened. it's a foible to forgive.
being a control freak is right. the point of consciousness itself is to take control over the environment.
being vindictive is right. because if you suffer yourself to be harmed and do not retaliate, the jackals will smell your impending death and gather around.
being bloodthirsty is right. someone that isn't willing to kill without a second thought isn't willing to live without a second thought. this earth is an abattoir. we are all ruled over by death, and to indulge in wanton bloodshed is to make the earth smile in pride at her children, who starve on her lap.
ethnic cleansing is just and proper, for just as you love yourself more than your mother, and your mother more than your brother, and your family more than your clan, and your clan more than your race, and your race more than a foreign race, but a human more than an animal, if you aren't willing to combat those whose blood is foreign to yours, you prove that you are a creature without love at all. and in the end, cleanliness is next to godliness.
misogyny is required for a stable social structure. women are lesser beings than men; their souls are smaller, their brains are undeveloped, they are breeding stock, and if they are not treated as such, your family, your country, your race, will die.
homophobia is right. for a man to submit sexually to another man is an abhorrent perversion of all that is natural to man, and you must cast out this disease from your tribe.
racism is truth. diversity is not strength. uniformity is strength. all races are different. and it is in knowing the differences between things that we obtain to wisdom.
infanticide is necessary, for crushing an enemy, you must kill his next generation. suffer none to live.
genocide is the art by which earth will eventually become beautiful. all advanced civilizations that visit our planet from other stars at one time went through genocide after genocide until they had selected the perfect race.
filicide is necessary at times. if a baby does not even know it's name, it is not a person, for a person has a name, and no one will weep for its death.
pestilence? you mean biological warfare? whats your beef with sustainable, organic weaponry?
megalomania? you mean having a strong ego and being someone? make no mistake, in these days of cowardice and smallness of spirit, any strong signs of life and consciousness will be called sickness.
whats wrong with sadomasochism? what are you, a puritan?
if you do not have the capacity for capricious malevolence as a person, you are like a porcupine without its spines: a tasty, succulent treat for anyone that cares to make the effort to eat you.
So basically you say that being a bad person is virtuous. And here i thought you believed the left was all about inversing values. -
2017-01-15 at 6:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump God aint real that means your retarded lololol
No that makes you retarded. Because everyone is smarter than something that doesn't exist. In the absence of intelligence even a fool is smart in comparison. -
2017-01-15 at 6:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie So basically you say that being a bad person is virtuous. And here i thought you believed the left was all about inversing values.
being a 'good person' isn't about being 'nice'. that's cultural marxism talking. being a good person is about being strong, and having capacity. being a good person for you and yours = being a very, very bad person for those against you and yours. the old testament god is a reflection of the survival values of the time. different contexts yield different optimization formulas for survival and success, for example, a megalomania value of 4.25 might have been ideal for 1000BC, where a value of 2.1 might be ideal for a world in which there are many many more people such as we have now.
when two people fight, all else being equal, the good person always wins, and the bad person always loses.
'value' is that which promotes survival and victory. if you're under the impression that bombing all of africa with nerve gas would make you a 'bad person', you're very wrong. in fact, sending aid to africa is what makes you a bad person.
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2017-01-15 at 6:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib being a 'good person' isn't about being 'nice'. that's cultural marxism talking. being a good person is about being strong, and having capacity. being a good person for you and yours = being a very, very bad person for those against you and yours. the old testament god is a reflection of the survival values of the time. different contexts yield different optimization formulas for survival and success, for example, a megalomania value of 4.25 might have been ideal for 1000BC, where a value of 2.1 might be ideal for a world in which there are many many more people such as we have now.
when two people fight, all else being equal, the good person always wins, and the bad person always loses.
'value' is that which promotes survival and victory. if you're under the impression that bombing all of africa with nerve gas would make you a 'bad person', you're very wrong. in fact, sending aid to africa is what makes you a bad person.
Nah, that's moral relativism talking. Personally i don't really care whether or not Africa is bombed with nerve gas. But murder and mass murder is still morally wrong. In fact, violence is always wrong, unless it is applied in self defense. And i know what you are thinking, you are thinking "lol pussy". But if we are to discuss what is wrong, right, virtues, good or evil. We must do so within the methodology provided by moral philosophy. -
2017-01-15 at 6:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie But murder and mass murder is still morally wrong.
murder is a legal term. legality =/= morality. whether it's right or wrong to kill someone is a matter of circumstance.
Originally posted by Sophie Nah, that's moral relativism talking.
morals are not relative. morals are a product of the necessity inherent in living beings, moreover living beings who must act intentionally on the basis of knowledge.
Originally posted by Sophie In fact, violence is always wrong, unless it is applied in self defense.
no, violence is only wrong some times and not other times, and not all of those times that it is right are self defense.
Originally posted by Sophie But if we are to discuss what is wrong, right, virtues, good or evil. We must do so within the methodology provided by moral philosophy.
this is basically gibberish. 'the methodology provided by moral philosophy' there is no moral philosophy 'as such'. and there is no 'methodology provided' by philosophy, which is itself an abstracted method of approaching questions that involve introspection by necessity.
we'd be better off working through a dictionary and thesaurus in order to find out 'what is right, wrong, virtue, good, evil', because these are terms that are defined by natural requirements of our organism, and, in fact do not require and philosophy or introspection to understand.
if i were to explain it to you, with the necessary translation and transformation to adjust for your error, it would be, "both good and evil are necessary to act rightly, and virtue is skill in acting rightly". you have confused 'gregarious' with 'good', and used it as a monopole to also define evil. this must present some uncomfortable conflicts of interest, since all that we must do is not gregarious, you must, by your measure, judge that some things we must do are both necessary for health and success, and also wrong. 'that's not how an engine is supposed to sound' said the mechanic.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-01-15 at 6:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib murder is a legal term. legality =/= morality. whether it's right or wrong to kill someone is a matter of circumstance.
I agree.
Originally posted by snab_snib morals are not relative. morals are a product of the necessity inherent in living beings, moreover living beings who must act intentionally on the basis of knowledge.
Yes i agree.
Originally posted by snab_snib no, violence is only wrong some times and not other times, and not all of those times that it is right are self defense.
Why?
Originally posted by snab_snib this is basically gibberish. 'the methodology provided by moral philosophy' there is no moral philosophy 'as such'. and there is no 'methodology provided' by philosophy, which is itself an abstracted method of approaching questions that involve introspection by necessity.
I am not sure you know what philosophy is.
Originally posted by snab_snib we'd be better off working through a dictionary and thesaurus in order to find out 'what is right, wrong, virtue, good, evil', because these are terms that are defined by natural requirements of our organism, and, in fact do not require and philosophy or introspection to understand.
We can understand morality with philosophy in the same way we can understand light with physics.
Originally posted by snab_snib if i were to explain it to you, with the necessary translation and transformation to adjust for your error, it would be, "both good and evil are necessary to act rightly,
No because what is right in the moment is not what is moral.
Originally posted by snab_snib and virtue is skill in acting rightly". you have confused 'gregarious' with 'good', and used it as a monopole to also define evil. this must present some uncomfortable conflicts of interest, since all that we must do is not gregarious, you must, by your measure, judge that some things we must do are both necessary for health and success, and also wrong. 'that's not how an engine is supposed to sound' said the mechanic.
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2017-01-15 at 6:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie What is right is not what is necessary for health and success.
t. frankfurt school
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2017-01-15 at 6:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib t. frankfurt school
t. i don't know that may may. -
2017-01-15 at 6:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie So basically you say that being a bad person is virtuous. And here i thought you believed the left was all about inversing values.
"Bad" is subjective. -
2017-01-15 at 7:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind "Bad" is subjective.
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2017-01-16 at 2:13 PM UTCSubjectiveness is subjective.
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2017-01-16 at 8:19 PM UTCthe subjectivity of subjectiveness is subjective, which is just my opinion
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2017-01-17 at 12:03 AM UTC>Thinking of God as a monotheistic intelligent individual
>Not thinking of God as equivalent to the "Way" in Daoism
This is why religious discussion is garbage. You discuss the physical veiled as the metaphysical instead of discussing the metaphysical in relation to the physical.
