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2019-10-19 at 11:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no, once they've unionize into a single entity it becomes a monopoly.
a mono fucking poly. and theres nothing free market about a mono, fucking, poly.
workers unions are really a protection racket, you pay your dues as a member of the worker gang, and they try to protect you from the other gangs,
such as the manufacturers associations, tobacco groups, etc etc. ie, capitalist gangs.
Uh no that's not what a monopoly is. -
2019-10-19 at 12:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I legit don't get what's wrong with a little bit of socialism.
Unions are a good thing.
Free medical care is a good thing.
Welfare is a good thing.
That's socialism, but it's totally fine though.
You can still make money and shit…
Believe it or not, but you can be pro capitalism and pro socialism at the same time. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
some degree of 'socialism' is necessary. most people in the US have been conditioned to viscerally hate communism and socialism to justify the wars fought after WWII and to preserve US economic 'soft power', but it's been losing its effect since the end of the cold war and as a result younger generations tend to have less and less of a... socialist gag reflex -
2019-10-19 at 2:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc the poor are your enemy when in reality the rich are.
Just because you're poor doesn't mean you're virtuous and deserve something from the rest of us. The reality is, a large segment of poor people are poor because they're awful people - they can't maintain relationships, they can't maintain work, they're lazy and impulsive and lack long term planning - then (like you) they turn around and talk about how rich people fucked them over. This is coming from someone who's from a working class background where my mum had to reuse a cloth several times a day for my shit because we couldn't afford diapers.
"The rich' or "the poor" isn't my enemy you brainwashed MKUlktra throwaway - both segments have awful people that deserve to be killed.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-10-19 at 2:54 PM UTCyeah whatever dude
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2019-10-19 at 2:56 PM UTCPussy
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2019-10-19 at 2:58 PM UTCFaggot
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2019-10-19 at 4:21 PM UTC
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2019-10-19 at 4:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny then why there arent more than one union in a factory/company ?
why there isnt a john's UAW and jane's UAW ?
There often is more than one union in a workplace.
But too many and the whole point of collective bargaining is lost.
Anyway, why aren't you worrying about how little competition there is amongst employers?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-10-19 at 4:36 PM UTC
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2019-10-19 at 4:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country There often is more than one union in a workplace.
do you have an example ?Anyway, why aren't you worrying about how little competition there is amongst employers?
because thay have gotten a hold of all levers of power and theres nothing you can do against it short of open, violent rebellion.
theres a reason why i thing the best label for them is capital feudalists.
because they categorically are. -
2019-10-19 at 4:39 PM UTC
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2019-10-19 at 4:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny lets see the examples that your hiding down there.
If you're a firefighter in the US, you may be a part of the AFSCME, the IAFF, or the FFCUU, etc. Those are just the three big ones.
I have worked jobs with multiple unions, and I'm sure many others here have as well. Not that one single union at one single workplace is a monopoly. -
2019-10-19 at 4:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny then why there arent more than one union in a factory/company ?
why there isnt a john's UAW and jane's UAW ?
Because the union isn't in the business of selling workers to employers you doof.
They make money but that's not because of any transactions with the employers. They get their union dues from their members and bargain in their interest in their collective stead. And collectively bargaining is way more powerful than splitting into two groups and competing with each other because then the employer is once again in a position to leverage you against one another. -
2019-10-19 at 5:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Vitamin G If you're a firefighter in the US, you may be a part of the AFSCME, the IAFF, or the FFCUU, etc. Those are just the three big ones.
not the same thing. they dont represent the workers in the same sphere.
as in IAFF will have nothing to do for a postal worker, and whats the last one ?
credit union ? its a loansharking facility.I have worked jobs with multiple unions, and I'm sure many others here have as well. Not that one single union at one single workplace is a monopoly.
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2019-10-19 at 5:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Big League jedi
Because the union isn't in the business of selling workers to employers you doof.
i didnt say it is. i said its a protection racket.They make money but that's not because of any transactions with the employers. They get their union dues from their members and bargain in their interest in their collective stead. And collectively bargaining is way more powerful than splitting into two groups and competing with each other because then the employer is once again in a position to leverage you against one another.
so do protection rackets. -
2019-10-19 at 5:24 PM UTC
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2019-10-19 at 5:47 PM UTCDoesn't matter what political system you use if there are no checks and balances to prevent power hungry sociopaths/psychopaths from taking control. And that always happens.
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2019-10-19 at 6:35 PM UTC
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2019-10-19 at 6:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Big League jedi Protection racket is not remotely the same thing as a monopoly, and that's also not what a protection racket is.
in order to be effective protection rackets have to be a monopoly. thats what all the turf wars are for.
to monopolize the whole area.
who would want to pay 2 different gangs foe protection.
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2019-10-19 at 6:52 PM UTC
