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2019-10-06 at 4:22 PM UTC
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2019-10-06 at 4:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM Ah "the tools"
You know, I didn't know slaves could just do paperwork to get out of it? Why weren't they doing that in 1795? Why dont victims of sex trafficking do it now?
Oh yeah, because they're ACTUAL slaves and not people with a secondary education working abroad in specialty fields
When did I even use the word slave or make that comparison you nigger retard? Can you argue anything without diverting to some kind of gay emotional appeal? I just laid out exactly why they can't simply "change jobs".
Sure maybe on paper. Practically, literally not gonna happen. You cannot just go to any random company and get a job. -
2019-10-06 at 4:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke When did I even use the word slave or make that comparison you nigger retard? Can you argue anything without diverting to some kind of gay emotional appeal? I just laid out exactly why they can't simply "change jobs".
Sure maybe on paper. Practically, literally not gonna happen. You cannot just go to any random company and get a job.
Just get out if you cant follow the conversation. Don't hop in last minute thinking you know what we're discussing. -
2019-10-06 at 6 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM Ah "the tools"
You know, I didn't know slaves could just do paperwork to get out of it? Why weren't they doing that in 1795? Why dont victims of sex trafficking do it now?
Oh yeah, because they're ACTUAL slaves and not people with a secondary education working abroad in specialty fields
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2019-10-06 at 6:11 PM UTC
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2019-10-06 at 7:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke I was making s practical statement about their factual situation. They can't just switch jobs easily. Go back to losing your argument cunt.
How can I go back when I was never there to begin with? It's very easy to switch jobs on a work visa. I posted the process already. It's two forms. That's it. You have 90 days within losing your job to find a new job, and can get other employment in that time, as well as apply for extensions. -
2019-10-06 at 8:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM How can I go back when I was never there to begin with? It's very easy to switch jobs on a work visa. I posted the process already. It's two forms. That's it. You have 90 days within losing your job to find a new job, and can get other employment in that time, as well as apply for extensions.
You have 90 days to find employment relevant to the specialized occupation you were granted your H1B visa for. You can't just go start working in Walmart. And again, I k ow you are having real athletic abilities issues but the problem is not doing the government paperwork asshole. The problem is there is no way you are getting rehired in the case of like 9 90% of H1B workers. They will kick you the fuck out. -
2019-10-06 at 8:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM It's really not. You can start working a new job right away.
Ahahaha hahahaha. Ok, I get that like you're reading some website and don't understand how the whole H1B status actually plays out but save yourself the embarrassment and stop here. No one actually wants to sponsor an H1B and besides like world class heart surgeons or something, labor is fungible enough the only thing H1Bs have to keep them competitive is that they can be compelled to work in shitty conditions for shitty pay under threat of being sent back to the third world. You generally do not get re-sponsored and even if you do you're in the same shitty situation as before -
2019-10-06 at 8:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke You have 90 days to find employment relevant to the specialized occupation you were granted your H1B visa for. You can't just go start working in Walmart. And again, I k ow you are having real athletic abilities issues but the problem is not doing the government paperwork asshole. The problem is there is no way you are getting rehired in the case of like 9 90% of H1B workers. They will kick you the fuck out.
Oh look, statistics you pulled out the ass.
I didn't know filling out two forms and finding a new job was slavery. -
2019-10-06 at 9:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM Oh look, statistics you pulled out the ass.
I didn't know filling out two forms and finding a new job was slavery.
They are in an unfair and coerced position that hurts both them and domestic workers. Foreign engineers, doctors, professors, programmers are brought over for shit cheap wages and paid shit, made to work long overtime hours with no excess pay by contract on the premise that they will be sponsored for a green card, get a better job with better pay etc until they are dumped back in India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Philippines. -
2019-10-06 at 9:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke They are in an unfair and coerced position that hurts both them and domestic workers. Foreign engineers, doctors, professors, programmers are brought over for shit cheap wages and paid shit, made to work long overtime hours with no excess pay by contract on the premise that they will be sponsored for a green card, get a better job with better pay etc until they are dumped back in India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Philippines.
85% of people on worker visas get green cards or citizenship. -
2019-10-06 at 9:23 PM UTC
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2019-10-06 at 9:24 PM UTC
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2019-10-06 at 9:29 PM UTC
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2019-10-06 at 9:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country So how is that any different from "human trafficking"?
Nobody is forced into applying for a H1B visa.
People are forced and groomed into sex trafficking. It's a big thing in China that little kids will get kidnapped and sold into beggar rings or prostitution. Happens all the time, every day, all over the world. Often when the parents sell them off the kids will have to work to pay off the 'debt' that their purchasers paid when buying them. -
2019-10-06 at 9:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM People are forced and groomed into sex trafficking. It's a big thing in China that little kids will get kidnapped and sold into beggar rings or prostitution. Happens all the time, every day, all over the world. Often when the parents sell them off the kids will have to work to pay off the 'debt' that their purchasers paid when buying them.
I don't believe this. -
2019-10-06 at 9:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM Nobody is forced into applying for a H1B visa.
People are forced and groomed into sex trafficking. It's a big thing in China that little kids will get kidnapped and sold into beggar rings or prostitution. Happens all the time, every day, all over the world. Often when the parents sell them off the kids will have to work to pay off the 'debt' that their purchasers paid when buying them.
Have you ever been groomed and forced into getting sex trafficked? -
2019-10-06 at 9:45 PM UTC
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2019-10-06 at 9:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM I already posted a study and you completely ignored it. You don't have ground to stand on with your beliefs anymore. They are unfounded and illogical.
It was a second order study that presented no evidence that things like what you just posted about actually happen.
If you want to define travelling to take up paid work as a sex worker as "human trafficking" then there's no reason why travelling to take up any paid work under a sponsored visa program isn't also "human trafficking".
It's not magically OK just cos Microsoft is doing it. -
2019-10-06 at 9:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by GAAAAALM What abuse? The abuse of having a job with pay they couldn't get back in their home country? Oh yeah, such fucking abuse. Basically slavery.
"Work 14 hours every day this month or you're fucking fired Kerpal. The nice home you put a down payment on in India because you were counting on this job and more? Think about it Kerpal. Just 14 hours Kerpal. 1 2 3 4 5 6 days a week Kerpal. Crunch time Kerpal, sleep in the office and work 16 buddy, help yourself to the free snacks! Wonder if you can nourish yourself on complimentary m&ms Kerpal, those peanuts are protein, treat the chocolate like a shell or save it for later Kerpal. Or you're going back to India 3 months after your entire village celebrated their first young man going to work abroad in a big tech company. Wonder how your wife and kids will feel back in a mud hut Kerpal."
Yes, they are being fucking COERCED.
If you're not willing to work those conditions under any circumstances, shut your chicken gordita 5.99 hole and go fuck yourself.
