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2019-08-03 at 1:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM Lmao you've never seen beauty. Baltimore is one of the dullest places in the US. There's a reason why this is where they set 'The Wire'
I guess you make do with what you can get. You sure as hell are never leaving America before you die
I've seen more beauty than you'll ever know. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it all is what you make it.
You probably pass up beauty everyday for shit because you're too close minded to even see it for what it is.
Baltimore is pretty hoppin' believe it or not. I'm down town right now at BronyCon. LMFAO.cool people though. Had a nice time.
All my choices aren't perfect, I know that, however I'm trying to make the most of what choices I'm dealt now.
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2019-08-03 at 8:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist fucking hell §m£ÂgØL, have you discovered a way to turn human fat into a waterproof seal strong enough to line a swimming pool? that's fucking huge dude(no pun intended), you could make a fortune with that.
also, so do you just eat all the dirt or summing then?
lol it's hard to dislike this guy sometimes.
Clay is actually pretty damn common in soils. I have a hobby that involves taking soils with a high clay content, and extracting pure clay from it. It's probably possible to use in conjunction with something else, as insulation in a pallet house. The SAS survival handbook mentions mixing clay soil with leaves and twigs and using that as insulation in walls. Pallets seem perfect for that since they already have a big gap in them.
The author mentions that the organic matter trapped in the clay will actually sprout mycelium (fungal threads) which will help hold it together. But that's kind of a dirty method.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-03 at 9 PM UTC
Originally posted by park police lol it's hard to dislike this guy sometimes.
Clay is actually pretty damn common in soils. I have a hobby that involves taking soils with a high clay content, and extracting pure clay from it. It's probably possible to use in conjunction with something else, as insulation in a pallet house. The SAS survival handbook mentions mixing clay soil with leaves and twigs and using that as insulation in walls. Pallets seem perfect for that since they already have a big gap in them.
The author mentions that the organic matter trapped in the clay will actually sprout mycelium (fungal threads) which will help hold it together. But that's kind of a dirty method.
The Pallets do look like old building framing. where they just plastered over boards that have spaces between them, unlike the plywood or particle boards used in the past 50-60 years
that clay over pallets would make a decent temporary house structure that could last for years or even a few decades, yet I still think a cellar dweller home of digging a big ass hole out of the ground, then using the pallets to build a wall and ceiling truss with maybe tarp over the top of that and then bury back with dirt. Like burrow-owls do. make it an Earth nest .
I wouldn't build it where it rains too hard or where there is lots of snow. if you do, make sure you have some good ventilation shafts at the top. some people make decorative pieces to hide them.
I saw how people would park their cars in a state park (like Golden Gate Park) and go down to say Michaels Art supply, and purchase plastic ivy and glue them to a green tarp and then just park the car off road and throw the tarp over it or even glue plastic or dead branches to a tarp and camouflage it to look like a bush. LOL most people would walk right past it and not even know.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-03 at 9:04 PM UTCAlso this.
Hide your garbage, do not be a hoarder and collect shit you think you can sell at a flea market or use at some point. this is what is pissing people off. Even homeless advocate groups are getting tired of the hoarding which is piles and piles of garbage to them.
One mans garbage is another mans treasure.. I agree. but it's usually something they store out of site and in their garage. it's not to be piled up in public with more people being homeless neighbors and doing the same.
then the city comes in because it becomes a health hazards or fire danger and they have the garbage people sweep it all up just after the police come in and sweep away the homeless to another location.
then the homeless do it all over again. then rinse and repeate. this is the problem. You can only be so compassionate towards homelessness. I never hung out with other people while Homeless when I live in the back of my truck. And if I was with no vehical. I am not going to go hang out with other people. I'm going to go find a good hiding spot and keep everything in trash bags out of sight. My dirty clothes in one. My clean clothes in another. Waste from food containers in another (Usually throwing them away as soon as possible)
How can one homeless person give advice to another. Sure they can tell you how to build a temporary tent out of tarp and sticks, but outside of that. LOLThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-03 at 9:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Mud Hole Mania The Pallets do look like old building framing. where they just plastered over boards that have spaces between them, unlike the plywood or particle boards used in the past 50-60 years
that clay over pallets would make a decent temporary house structure that could last for years or even a few decades, yet I still think a cellar dweller home of digging a big ass hole out of the ground, then using the pallets to build a wall and ceiling truss with maybe tarp over the top of that and then bury back with dirt. Like burrow-owls do. make it an Earth nest .
I wouldn't build it where it rains too hard or where there is lots of snow. if you do, make sure you have some good ventilation shafts at the top. some people make decorative pieces to hide them.
I saw how people would park their cars in a state park (like Golden Gate Park) and go down to say Michaels Art supply, and purchase plastic ivy and glue them to a green tarp and then just park the car off road and throw the tarp over it or even glue plastic or dead branches to a tarp and camouflage it to look like a bush. LOL most people would walk right past it and not even know.
Yeah it probably would last a long time. I would never do much digging without one of these https://www.grainger.com/product/20C887?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-9Lc6dDn4wIVBJ6fCh1RLgB0EAQYASABEgKfPPD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI-9Lc6dDn4wIVBJ6fCh1RLgB0EAQYASABEgKfPPD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916774837!!!g!137381030482!
They're heavy, so it's MUCH easier to dig when you have one, at least in heavy clay type soils with rocks and shit. I love digging. 30 to 45$, not a bad investment, and who is going to steal one of those....
You know, I can't criticize people for how they want to live their lives, or how they feel they have no choice but to live them. Being homeless isn't hard at all in the US. Being COMFORTABLE when you're homeless is hard sometimes. I can respect those high tech homeless people, the real clever ones, that build these elaborate places intelligently enough to not have it fall apart or get discovered by the government or whoever.
I think a truly durable person should not be depressed in such a situation. You should be able to be happy wherever you go, even if it's the streets/homelessness, or in prison.
Not everybody can do that. You shouldn't WANT to be homeless or in prison, but if that happens, you should be durable enough to make the most of it and still be content, inshallah. You are not a slave to all the things everyone else is a slave to.
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2019-08-03 at 9:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by park police Yeah it probably would last a long time. I would never do much digging without one of these https://www.grainger.com/product/20C887?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-9Lc6dDn4wIVBJ6fCh1RLgB0EAQYASABEgKfPPD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI-9Lc6dDn4wIVBJ6fCh1RLgB0EAQYASABEgKfPPD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916774837!!!g!137381030482!
They're heavy, so it's MUCH easier to dig when you have one, at least in heavy clay type soils with rocks and shit. I love digging. 30 to 45$, not a bad investment, and who is going to steal one of those….
You know, I can't criticize people for how they want to live their lives, or how they feel they have no choice but to live them. Being homeless isn't hard at all in the US. Being COMFORTABLE when you're homeless is hard sometimes. I can respect those high tech homeless people, the real clever ones, that build these elaborate places intelligently enough to not have it fall apart or get discovered by the government or whoever.
I think a truly durable person should not be depressed in such a situation. You should be able to be happy wherever you go, even if it's the streets/homelessness, or in prison.
Not everybody can do that. You shouldn't WANT to be homeless or in prison, but if that happens, you should be durable enough to make the most of it and still be content, inshallah. You are not a slave to all the things everyone else is a slave to.
Speaking of prisons..The City of Oakland offered the recently closed Jail to become a Homeless structure to get people out of their tents. but then the crybaby "Advocates" say it's Cruel and Inhumane.
umm yeah, they don't get locked in the cells they can come and go all hours of the day. Stop speaking for these homeless people and fucking up an opportunity that will now get shot down because you're an "Advocate". It seems these people just want Homeless to get Section 8 and large properties or free apartments which is a huge premium in places like San Francisco.
I mean, that Oakland Jail will probably get bought up by hipsters and turned ito minimalist studio apartments because it's "Trendy" and "Affordable" at 300 thousands a cell room.
this is a huge opportunity for houses for humanity people to get in and fix each cell up and take out the bars or large safe size doors and replace them with normal wooden doors that lock from the inside and not from the outside.
and a staffed kitchen of both homeless and volunteers in the existing jail kitchen.
and you're right. reformed prisons like in Germany. the prisoners get the key to their own cells, live in them, work and study in them, don't have access to internet unless strictly watched over. people don't fight or get raped.
In the USA there has been groups of Prison Guards (Usually in groups of three for some reason) ending up going to prison themselves because they organize large gang brawls for their own amusement. or even have people killed because they get paid off from the outside.
This fucking abuse that is stacked on top of a sentence has to stop. I know some prisoners are pieces of shit such as peados and shit.. but you isolate these fucking people as a punishment and not put them with others. the system is over crowded because 90 percent of the prison are full of people for third strike violations of drug use or selling drugs or something not really worth the time given to them.
people go to prison (expecially in California) because they murdered someone.. but it doesn't mean they're bad people. it means they were trying to protect themselves from the very crime they were forced to jump in and do first.. because the fucked up legal system couldn't protect them.
so if you remove 90 percent of the prison population.. you don't have over crowding. the serious hardcore criminals can just be isolated from one another and learn to be more productive and get aid in treating them for whatever they did not acceptable with 99% of society
Just common sense shit like killing some old person for their money (including family members)
or raping (especially young kids)The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-04 at 1:58 AM UTCI don't hoard shit and I keep my shit clean and picked up. I bag all my trash and take it to public trash cans and shit.
I am well hidden and I don't have others around or let people know where I am. My dog is gonna be a good deterrent too. When I sleep she's gonna have my money and dope in her collar lol. If you want my shit you have to go through my 120lb dog that protects momma and won't tolerate strangers in her home at night.
She doesn't bark either so that won't be a problem with drawing attention to me. She just whines and nudges me to alert me. She's a cool as shit dog.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-04 at 3:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by park police lol it's hard to dislike this guy sometimes.
Clay is actually pretty damn common in soils. I have a hobby that involves taking soils with a high clay content, and extracting pure clay from it. It's probably possible to use in conjunction with something else, as insulation in a pallet house. The SAS survival handbook mentions mixing clay soil with leaves and twigs and using that as insulation in walls. Pallets seem perfect for that since they already have a big gap in them.
The author mentions that the organic matter trapped in the clay will actually sprout mycelium (fungal threads) which will help hold it together. But that's kind of a dirty method.
You should make a thread about the clay extraction. That sounds interesting. No troll.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-04 at 4:42 PM UTCCheck out Bush Craft by Mors Kochanski, or The SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman, both have great sections on building a variety of shelters.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-08-05 at 1:06 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-08-05 at 8:13 PM UTCkeep it on topic shitbirds >:(
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2019-08-05 at 8:17 PM UTCWould it be better to use the existing structure of a pallet or disassemble it?
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2019-08-06 at 12:13 AM UTC
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2019-08-08 at 12:33 AM UTC
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2019-08-08 at 12:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe If it is a temporary shelter you could probably build something suitable using pallets as they are.
Not even temporary. I plan to use the pallet slapped together using other pieces of pallets to secure them together ideally with screws but nails would work too. I'd buy a few 2x6 to add structural support.probably even get a few square posts for the corners and porch to put in the ground and screw the pallet foundation to.
And Lanny don't call me a shit bird... I can deviate in my own thread a little. See, we got back on topic. We're big kids now, dad... Let us play in the sand box please.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-08 at 11:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Not even temporary. I plan to use the pallet slapped together using other pieces of pallets to secure them together ideally with screws but nails would work too. I'd buy a few 2x6 to add structural support.probably even get a few square posts for the corners and porch to put in the ground and screw the pallet foundation to.
And Lanny don't call me a shit bird… I can deviate in my own thread a little. See, we got back on topic. We're big kids now, dad… Let us play in the sand box please.
You started this thread 2 weeks ago and you are still in the planning phase? Have you made any progress at all? Do you even need this shelter if the weather is so nice that you can leisurely take over 2 weeks to even begin?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-09 at 9:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe You started this thread 2 weeks ago and you are still in the planning phase? Have you made any progress at all? Do you even need this shelter if the weather is so nice that you can leisurely take over 2 weeks to even begin?
who says she absolutely must go into the building phase immediately after first thinking about this idea?
and where the fuck did that rule come from?
she can take as long as she likes for fuck sake.
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2019-08-09 at 9:09 AM UTCand does this rule apply to everyone in the country, like an actual proper law, or is this just a condition obbe imposed on niggasin.space users?
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2019-08-09 at 11:02 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-08-09 at 11:16 AM UTC
