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Reddit has decided that ICE detention centers are concentration camps
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2019-07-26 at 12:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra 'concentration camp' implies a racial policy, race is mostly just incidental in this case - their camp enrolment is based on their offence (illegal immigration) and the area where they were caught, racial/ethnic concentration is incidental
True. If they were white illegal border crossers, they be in the same boat as these are. But radical leftists have to play the race card, because that's all they really have that does anything to further their own personal agendas. -
2019-07-26 at 12:47 PM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 12:51 PM UTCMeanwhile if you made a thread on there being pro-ICE it would be literally kept from ever making it to the front page
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2019-07-26 at 12:53 PM UTCICE is a lot better than INS ever was...Having dealt with both ICE are fucking awesome in comparison.
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2019-07-26 at 1:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM Here's the thing about the detention centers:
Locking illegal immigrants up is just.
Deporting illegal immigrants is just.
Keeping them in overcrowded quarters where they have to share beds is not just.
Sending children to court without their parents or a lawyer is not just.
Keeping them without showers is not just.
Denying them a quick trial is not just.
Detaining legal immigrants under the assumption they are illegal because of the color of their skin is not just.
I am not sure what else is going on as I haven't kept up with it too much, but this is a massive humanitarian violation that is going on. Not comparable to the concentration camps of Nazi Germany, or the Uyghur camps in China today, but it's still very fucked up and a lack of funding should not be any sort of excuse. Everybody seems to talk about this lack of funding being the cause like that makes it okay.
But it's not. Humanitarian violations are never okay. Everybody seems to accept that lack of funding is the main issue here, and not actually that we WANT TO or SHOULD BE keeping people in these conditions, yet we've got people like Trump publicly defending the garbage treatment in these places even though he signed an emergency funding bill for it earlier this month. But we've still yet to see conditions actually change for these people.
Nobody gave a fuck when people suspected of terrorism were kept in inhumanitarian conditions, because they were terrorists.
Nobody gives a fuck when illegal immigrants are kept in inhumanitarian conditions, because they are illegal.
The private prison industry in America is already a fucking mess of convoluted slavery and overcrowding. But nobody cares. Because they're criminals.
This sort of behavior is EXACTLY the sort of slippery slope that has happened all around the world, and yes, has led to the sorts of camps like those of Nazi Germany, or the ones in Xinjiang. We cannot allow any treatment of any human, even criminals, to fall below the standard of basic human care that any first world nation should provide as default for any within its system. We are not quite at the atrocities of a concentration camp, but there are clear humanitarian violations going on that need to be stopped dead in their tracks right here and now.
Trump absolutely has a sort of fascist, racist following that THANK FUCK isn't very strong, and will die out of the limelight when he leaves office. I mean, the dude literally has posted memes about him staying in office forever, and has expressed a desire to extend his term multiple times. That shit is un-American. Our forefathers fought tooth and nail to create a country free from that sort of autocracy. We're ticking all the boxes of a regime starter kit here. The demonization of select groups (Mexicans, jedis, Gypsies, Muslims, Christians, take your pick) is a prevalent theme in these sort of governments.
I can't believe there are some Republicans who actually support Trump staying in power forever. You know who just removed presidental term limits last year? Fucking Xi Jinping. Yes, China used to elect their president. It was a closed election in which only high ranking officials could vote in, so it was obviously corrupt as hell to begin with, but there was at least a sliver of chance that they could boot him out. Recently there has been a push in Russia to remove/ammend some article in their constitution that will allow Putin to 'run' for President again in 2024, and every 6 years after that. Are these really the governments we wish to emulate?
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2019-07-26 at 3 PM UTCYou can't just allow a huge influx of foreign people to come into your country en mass and then roam free, that is insane thinking.
"The left" are obviously just communists trying to take over the country.
Sending a bunch of people who illegally entered the country to a containment facility is not wrong at all.
It's perfectly rational and to be expected to defend your country and the fact that I have to even say that is crazy.
The fact that someone like me even cares and that I'm apparently in the minority with this opinion (at least that's what the media would have me believe) is absurd. -
2019-07-26 at 3:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM2 Mexicans = Spaniards.
Great logic.
Except the electoral college isn't equal or fair, and disproportionately gives rural populations, who are predominantly white in most of the country, more voting power. It's a sham democracy. Hilary won the popular vote by about 7 million. In literally any other democratic country, she would have won, because most countries understand that everyone should have an equal voice. The electoral college does not provide everyone with an equal voice. The idea that it does is frankly laughable. It's a fucked up system that keeps America in this backwards and non-representative two party system, which is why neither the Democrats nor the Republicans want to get rid of it. It benefits them to only give the American people two choices. It's a winner takes all system, rather than a representation of the people's opinion.
Funny how literally the rest of the voting world understands this, but Americans will still fight tooth and nail to have their opinions oppressed by the system.
Wow what a surprise, you believe in even MORE blatant propaganda. What a fucking sheep you are, SpectraL.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/aug/27/blog-posting/sen-mccain-did-not-commit-treason-vietnam/
-McCain was never pardoned for anything ever. No charges, no nothing. I don't give a fuck about your anecdotal reports. Anybody can lie about anything. You're a shining example of that. I care about facts.
What you were not taught is this. The Unities States of America is a Republic formed by 50 sovereign states. It very much like the UNited Federation of Planets in Star Trek. Each state is it's own sovereign political entity. The electoral college is in place to ensure that 2 or 3 of the more populous states don't have all the power. Think of it like 50 separate countries that all signed a treaty called the Constitution. -
2019-07-26 at 3:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker What you were not taught is this. The Unities States of America is a Republic formed by 50 sovereign states. It very much like the UNited Federation of Planets in Star Trek. Each state is it's own sovereign political entity. The electoral college is in place to ensure that 2 or 3 of the more populous states don't have all the power. Think of it like 50 separate countries that all signed a treaty called the Constitution.
Trump is Admiral Kirk. -
2019-07-26 at 3:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker What you were not taught is this. The Unities States of America is a Republic formed by 50 sovereign states. It very much like the UNited Federation of Planets in Star Trek. Each state is it's own sovereign political entity. The electoral college is in place to ensure that 2 or 3 of the more populous states don't have all the power. Think of it like 50 separate countries that all signed a treaty called the Constitution.
I wonder where each state would be culturally if the jews and etc weren't trying to take over the country and control history.
Without the internet and external forces each state would probably be a unique country by now with vastly different dialects and languages. -
2019-07-26 at 3:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Trump is Admiral Kirk.
Originally posted by Japan-Is-Eternal I wonder where each state would be culturally if the jews and etc weren't trying to take over the country and control history.
Without the internet and external forces each state would probably be a unique country by now with vastly different dialects and languages.
Reality, give a try sometime. -
2019-07-26 at 3:12 PM UTCYou brainless mindless NPC all of that talk about containment center conditions was literal fake news and the worst of it was going on during obgongo's presidency.
You really need to ignore the mainstream media completely, because they peddle nothing but fake narratives.
As for what I said about communism, the people running in the democrat party ARE LITERAL COMMIES.
The 2020s will be the decade where we are either taken over by commies or we overcome their shenanigans and a golden age of freedom occurs.
Maybe a miracle will happen and the states can regain complete control of their sovereignty and the federal government ceases to be.
This is a crossroads and the most critical point in recent human history -
2019-07-26 at 3:15 PM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 3:16 PM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 3:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM2
So what, do you think literally every other democracy in the world is holding unfair elections that do not represent the people, because their elections work on a direct democracy that gives everyone equal 1:1 voting power?
We don't even use any sort of democracy to determine most of our legislation, so any shit you can say about protecting rural interests doesn't even make sense. They're going to protected no matter what. People in rural areas don't have the ability to advocate for that sort of thing. They can't vote for higher subsidiaries, or lower taxes on agricultural machinery, or any of that shit. Do you think rural America is going to fall apart or something if we actually gave people equal voting power? They are the backbone of civilization. Nobody is going to let them fall. If we did, we wouldn't have food.
And even so, rural America is suffering hard right now, under Republican majority and a Republican president. Suicide rates in rural America just hit the highest point it's ever been at. So tell me again how the electoral college is helping them? It should be noted that literally every other elected official in America is chosen by popular vote, and not by an electoral college. Senators, Congressmen, Governors, etc. Why should the President/VP be any different?
The United States of America is not and never has been a democracy nor was it designed or intended to be a democracy. It is a republic with democratically elected representation. But since you received a substandard globalist education you were never taught that truth. -
2019-07-26 at 3:19 PM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 3:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker The United States of America is not and never has been a democracy nor was it designed or intended to be a democracy. It is a republic with democratically elected representation. But since you received a substandard globalist education you were never taught that truth.
When will the revolution begin? -
2019-07-26 at 3:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yes dialup internet was great.
Actually it was.
Back in the days of dial up you weren't as bombarded with multimedia and adverts, websites were straight to the point and built for low bandwidth, what you ended up sitting and waiting to load had to be worth it, so you were less likely to waste time on garbage, everything felt more special etc there were so many things better about the web back in the days of dialup. -
2019-07-26 at 3:25 PM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 3:26 PM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 3:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM2
1800's politics over here folks. This is what the conservatives are worried about. This is literally what led to the civil war is southern states not wanting to accept federal taxes and import laws that disproportionately affected their agrarian society.
Amazing how these idiots are still complaining about the same shit 200 years later.
It's gonna happen!!
Sooner or later people will realize what's going on and millions will revolt and the world's biggest happening will happen.
There are two paths the US is going to take, one leads to totalitarian conditions and the other is FREEDOM.
Which path will people take?
