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2019-07-20 at 1:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 Not exactly.
Now put your thinking cap on for a second.
Let's go back 5,500 years ago. The Hebrew version of the Bible to us is known to us as the Old Testament. To the Hebrew/J..e…w….s it's known as the Torah. But in reality, it was a human lineage record of the Hebrew People themselves.
So Basically, this Torah is a prive Book not meant for people like you or myself to ever read. This was a Book designated for and between the Hebrew People only.
So, the stories about Elohim, or their God, Yahweh. Was meant to be kept a secret to EVERYONE but the Hebrew Peoples and their eventual lineages until the promise of the God they speak about fulfilled the work He desired for the Hebrew People.
So, how do we now have access to that, you know before it would be discovered on its own, or discovered the Hebrew now J..e…w….s had a God that (presumably no one knew about).
The Hebrew People would have a leader and the people would follow. That leader was always designed to be a reminder to them of their God. But sometimes the leader God was hoping to lead actually would go against God. And this is how the Hebrew People would be led to do the things God had warned them from.
But anyways (long story short)…
God saw that ultimately these people would always rebell.
And this is where God said (basically), if my own people will rebell Me, then I need to give the entire world the same opportunity. Knowing that meant even more people rebelling.
This is where Yeshua, the foretold Messiah comes from, in His plan to be their Messiah, and ultimately everyone!!
But, originally, no one but the Hebrew People was to ever know about this God.
Of course, God knew how it all would work out. But that is one of the Characteristics of God, He gave humanity "Free Will."
don't give me the courtiers reply you religious nutjob. you're the one arguing a hypothesis based on not a single shred of evidence, not fucking one. and resorting to shitty special pleading to do so. you'd need to do way way better than that to fool me pal.
and no god gave me free will. free will is something all biological beings that possess a brain have. its literally what a brain does, enables us to assess our situation and environment and make a judgment, plan and execute our next moves.
and if you really believed that god never messes with free will then you'd never pray for god to give you any kind of success or safety in life, because how could god give you those things without messing with somebodies free will? and how would god revealing himself in a tangible way, prevent us from having free will? god supposedly spoke to moses, adam, eve and many other characters in the bible. and they all still had free will to disobey him, which they did, apparently. so that whole free will thing is a total crock of shit. just use of special pleading like the majority of theist argument to support the notion of divinity. anybody with even an average iq who actually read the bible properly can easily see how often it fucking contradicts itself. use your brain you moron.
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2019-07-20 at 1:53 AM UTC
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2019-07-20 at 2:15 AM UTC
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2019-07-20 at 2:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist don't give me the courtiers reply you religious nutjob. you're the one arguing a hypothesis based on not a single shred of evidence, not fucking one. and resorting to shitty special pleading to do so. you'd need to do way way better than that to fool me pal.
and no god gave me free will. free will is something all biological beings that possess a brain have. its literally what a brain does, enables us to assess our situation and environment and make a judgment, plan and execute our next moves.
and if you really believed that god never messes with free will then you'd never pray for god to give you any kind of success or safety in life, because how could god give you those things without messing with somebodies free will? and how would god revealing himself in a tangible way, prevent us from having free will? god supposedly spoke to moses, adam, eve and many other characters in the bible. and they all still had free will to disobey him, which they did, apparently. so that whole free will thing is a total crock of shit. just use of special pleading like the majority of theist argument to support the notion of divinity. anybody with even an average iq who actually read the bible properly can easily see how often it fucking contradicts itself. use your brain you moron.
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Success in life is different to every Human Being. Success is not who we see on television, or who is elected, or who has a bigger bank account, or who has status quo. No true believer prays to God to be something that would take them away from God. It appears that you have been the pivot man to way too many circle jerks within your own mind. You have clear assumptions, but they are at best based upon a select few examples, not the entire view. The only one fooling themselves would be you, who have put an entire group of people into your own personal view. And from reading about your personal views within these threads, I am amazed you haven't ate led yet, with you doing the trigger pulling. -
2019-07-20 at 2:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 Success in life is different to every Human Being. Success is not who we see on television, or who is elected, or who has a bigger bank account, or who has status quo. No true believer prays to God to be something that would take them away from God. It appears that you have been the pivot man to way too many circle jerks within your own mind. You have clear assumptions, but they are at best based upon a select few examples, not the entire view. The only one fooling themselves would be you, who have put an entire group of people into your own personal view. And from reading about your personal views within these threads, I am amazed you haven't ate led yet, with you doing the trigger pulling.
have you any idea how patronizing and condescending it is to go round telling people that they are not capable of figuring out what they believe for themselves, and so you're goona to tell them what to believe for them?
and especially when its accompanied by such out dated voodoo hoodoo fairy story shite, its just presents yourself as a patronizing and totally condescending clown. literally nobody with more than a few brain cells is ever gonna take you seriously preaching that shit.
do have fun playing with all the mugs and losers in society tho.
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2019-07-20 at 2:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist have you any idea how patronizing and condescending it is to go round telling people that they are not capable of figuring out what they believe for themselves, and so you're goona to tell them what to believe for them?
and especially when its accompanied by such out dated voodoo hoodoo fairy story shite, its just presents yourself as a patronizing and totally condescending clown. literally nobody with more than a few brain cells is ever gonna take you seriously preaching that shit.
do have fun playing with all the mugs and losers in society tho.
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You are slow, aren't you?
You literally do not understand a thing I just said there.
And then you shout at others like you have a clue.
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2019-07-20 at 2:51 AM UTC
