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2019-07-09 at 3:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost People overdose because it's illegal. I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing though. Morally it feels wrong but society seems to disagree.
not necessarily.
most people od on things that make them feel good because they wanted to feel extra good.
people od on alcohol and food all the time, except instead of dying they just pass out or became fat. -
2019-07-09 at 4 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny not necessarily.
most people od on things that make them feel good because they wanted to feel extra good.
people od on alcohol and food all the time, except instead of dying they just pass out or became fat.
Yeah but America literally has like 10x more opioid overdoses over the last few years. Fentanyl now kills more people than car crashes. It is absolutely fucking insane. -
2019-07-09 at 4:06 AM UTCover 90% of lethal ODs have one of two causes:
1. Intentional suicide attempt
2. Hotshot (ie. potency is much higher than expected)The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-07-09 at 4:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Yeah but America literally has like 10x more opioid overdoses over the last few years. Fentanyl now kills more people than car crashes. It is absolutely fucking insane.
because doctors want their patients to feel good,
because they're paid to make thekr patients feel good.
and they went to see their doctors so that they can feel good. -
2019-07-09 at 4:11 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-07-09 at 4:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny because doctors want their patients to feel good,
because they're paid to make thekr patients feel good.
and they went to see their doctors so that they can feel good.
Doctors have pretty much nothing to do with the opioid epidemic. That's some shit only CNN and FOX news watchers believe. Anyone who has ever tried to actually buy opiates knows pills are in short supply. I mean as much as I hate BIG PHERMA, people aren't getting hooked on prescriptions. If that were the case we'd probably have less overdoses than we do now. This problem is in large part because we have considerably LESS prescriptions than we did 15 years ago.
Like, hydro should probably have no problem getting an opiate prescription. She clearly has tons of medical problems. Yet she isn't able to get one, so she uses dope to manage her pain instead. There are a shocking amount of people who simply use illegal drugs because they aren't able to get anything legal to help their pain. Lots of addicts probably lie about this but I've also met lots of people with some serious pain. This is why Crouton is becoming so popular.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-07-11 at 6:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Doctors have pretty much nothing to do with the opioid epidemic. That's some shit only CNN and FOX news watchers believe.
even RT too.
https://www.rt.com/usa/414545-us-drugs-opioid-crisis/ -
2019-07-11 at 7:02 PM UTCtry telling that to all the hundreds of thousands of oxycodone addicts who never touched an opiate before a doctor prescribed them.
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2019-07-11 at 8:02 PM UTC
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2019-07-11 at 9:38 PM UTCnotice how often §m£ÂgØL uses the facepalm as a responce because he's so fat and lazy that half the time he can't even be bothered to type a few words on his keyboard, lol.
imagine being like that? ffsSMH
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2019-07-11 at 10:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist notice how often §m£ÂgØL uses the facepalm as a responce because he's so fat and lazy that half the time he can't even be bothered to type a few words on his keyboard, lol.
imagine being like that? ffsSMH
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yeah that's why he does it, not because there's so much facepalm-worthy shit here
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2019-07-11 at 10:12 PM UTC
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2019-07-11 at 11:46 PM UTCLol legalization. No illegal profiteering and no junkies cause they will all have OD'd or be in the process of doing.
Wooooo
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2019-07-12 at 2:41 AM UTCprohibition is the cause of nearly every single overdose tho
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2019-07-12 at 3 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist prohibition is the cause of nearly every single overdose tho
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Actually junkies being irresponsible morons is the cause of nearly every single overdose. Increasing their access to drugs, especially purer and stronger drugs, is a recipe for an epidemic of ODs. I'd be for ending prohibition if we prohibited narcan so you retards could live (however briefly) with the consequences of the reality you're seeking. -
2019-07-12 at 3:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Increasing their access to drugs, especially purer and stronger drugs, is a recipe for an epidemic of ODs.
Unlikely - I think I posted it in this thread earlier, but statistically the enormous majority of lethal ODs are either suicide attempts or people overshooting due to uncontrolled and unpredictable purity.
If purity were controlled, the number one cause of ODs would simply cease to be -
2019-07-12 at 3:29 AM UTCp u r i t y c o n t r o l
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2019-07-12 at 3:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Unlikely - I think I posted it in this thread earlier, but statistically the enormous majority of lethal ODs are either suicide attempts or people overshooting due to uncontrolled and unpredictable purity.
If purity were controlled, the number one cause of ODs would simply cease to be
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2019-07-12 at 3:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Overdoses woukd go down because you would have a pure product that is consistent. On the streets you dont have that. It varies on batch to the next.
If an idiot knows that they have a pure product, and what they can handle is X and they do more than X, than they are retards and good ridance to those idiots, but when you don't know what purity you're getting day to day, well… Its a crap shoot. Legalization cuts out that crap shoot because now you would have pharmaceutical grade purity, which would be safer with no fucked up cuts and know what you're getting is pure and/or diluted with safe substances for a specific dosage.
How does somebody know their limit without reaching that limit? If you've never overdosed why wouldn't you think that you can clearly handle more? -
2019-07-12 at 11:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Actually junkies being irresponsible morons is the cause of nearly every single overdose. Increasing their access to drugs, especially purer and stronger drugs, is a recipe for an epidemic of ODs. I'd be for ending prohibition if we prohibited narcan so you retards could live (however briefly) with the consequences of the reality you're seeking.
this is a common misconception that all the dumb normies think coz the media like to further it as part of their war on drugs propaganda. one thing all junkies know more about than anyone is dosages, especially concerning opiates and benzos. most know more about dosages than most doctors. its because of prohibition that causes wildly fluctuating purity levels that is why the vast majority overdose, not because they just don't think about how much they've used.
its like imagine you had a headache and you go buy a bottle of tylenol. the instructions say take 1000mg, but you don't know for each tablet in that bottle how much tylenol is in each tablet. you know some only contain as little as 50mg, but other tablets could contain as much as 25,000mg. the tablets aren't individually marked and are all exactly the same size, every single one is identical to look at. you know that 25,000mg is a lethal dose, even taking two 10,000mg tablets would be lethal. however, you also know that there is likely only going to be at most one tablet that is over 5000mg, so in all likeliness you probably won't be taking a lethal dose, but there is always that small chance, and if you were somebody who regularly suffered with headaches then every bottle you buy increases the chances. so which do you take, considering you have a killer headache and all you can think of right now is just getting some releif from the intense pain that is completely overtaking your ability to think straight or function properly? that's what trying to dose on prohibited heroin is like.
i mean personally i think you're fucking nuts to inject heroin, but each to their own, i guess. its not my place to dictate what other people who are not me, living my life in my circumstances do. anymore than its their place to judge what i do.
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