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Predictions: What is going to happen to Hong Kong
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2019-07-09 at 3:38 PM UTCI truly have no idea. If China is allowed to implement this extradition law it will be a very sad time for all in the South China Sea. The one china policy is seriously fucking dumb. I tried to ask one of my Chinese partners about it and she did not even know there were protests going on and told me that it was Western propaganda because "if it was real it would be in the Chinese news too" lol.
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2019-07-09 at 3:43 PM UTC"Allowed" by who? It's their territory.
That's like saying "If America is allowed to..." Countries tend to make their own rules. -
2019-07-09 at 3:55 PM UTChow is one china policy dumb ?
like do you think 50 USA policy isnt dumb ?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-07-09 at 3:55 PM UTCUS is basically one country, a few dozen systems.
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2019-07-09 at 3:56 PM UTCIndeed Vincent, Probably best other countries stay out of each others internal wranglings...none of their business.
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2019-07-09 at 3:57 PM UTCThe landlord/owner is the guy who decides the rules, not the tenants or neighbors.
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2019-07-09 at 4:10 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 4:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "Allowed" by who? It's their territory.
That's like saying "If America is allowed to…" Countries tend to make their own rules.
Barely. It does not pay any taxes to mainland China and has a completely separate and autonomous government. Extradition is also explicitly against the 1997 handover. That is the whole point of the one country, two systems thing. The EU and UK have already denounced China's actions as being against this agreement, which is not set to be reviewed by China until 2047.
If you are subject to extradition in HK to CHina then you are basically subject to the laws of a completely different place which you dont live in. Imagine smoking weed in California where it is legal then getting extradited to Alabama because it's illegal there, even though you may have never been to Alabama in your life and are in fact a CA citizen. -
2019-07-09 at 4:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Barely. It does not pay any taxes to mainland China and has a completely separate and autonomous government. Extradition is also explicitly against the 1997 handover. That is the whole point of the one country, two systems thing. The EU and UK have already denounced China's actions as being against this agreement, which is not set to be reviewed by China until 2047.
If you are subject to extradition in HK to CHina then you are basically subject to the laws of a completely different place which you dont live in. Imagine smoking weed in California where it is legal then getting extradited to Alabama because it's illegal there, even though you may have never been to Alabama in your life and are in fact a CA citizen.
Do you think if you crossed state lines from a state where the age of consent was 18 to one where the age of consent was 17 so you could get yourself some 17yr old vageen...that the state with the 18 consent age wouldn't charge you or at least investigate you for crossing state lines to bang a minor?
Pretty sure they would.
Same for these middle aged White dudes who go to Thailand to fuck 13yr olds...they can and do get charged when they get home/caught.
Hong Kong belongs to China and is answerable to China, no one else. -
2019-07-09 at 4:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Barely. It does not pay any taxes to mainland China and has a completely separate and autonomous government. Extradition is also explicitly against the 1997 handover. That is the whole point of the one country, two systems thing. The EU and UK have already denounced China's actions as being against this agreement, which is not set to be reviewed by China until 2047.
If you are subject to extradition in HK to CHina then you are basically subject to the laws of a completely different place which you dont live in. Imagine smoking weed in California where it is legal then getting extradited to Alabama because it's illegal there, even though you may have never been to Alabama in your life and are in fact a CA citizen.
you mean like julian ansange and countless honest amd hardworking members of the taliban. -
2019-07-09 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Do you think if you crossed state lines from a state where the age of consent was 18 to one where the age of consent was 17 so you could get yourself some 17yr old vageen…that the state with the 18 consent age wouldn't charge you or at least investigate you for crossing state lines to bang a minor?
Pretty sure they would.
Same for these middle aged White dudes who go to Thailand to fuck 13yr olds…they can and do get charged when they get home/caught.
Hong Kong belongs to China and is answerable to China, no one else.
Re-read my post because that's not what this law would do.
You'd be extradited despite not having broken the law in that country, but in your own where what you're doing is legal. Chinese laws don't apply in Hong Kong and haven't since the British took it over. You clearly have only a rough idea of the dynamics over there. -
2019-07-09 at 4:28 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 4:40 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 4:41 PM UTCand btw most talibans have nothing to do with 9-11.
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2019-07-09 at 4:47 PM UTCThe disgusting Nonce has a point, the Taliban only harboured Osama.
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2019-07-09 at 4:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Re-read my post because that's not what this law would do.
You'd be extradited despite not having broken the law in that country, but in your own where what you're doing is legal. Chinese laws don't apply in Hong Kong and haven't since the British took it over. You clearly have only a rough idea of the dynamics over there.
Hong Kong isn't a country... -
2019-07-09 at 4:55 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 4:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Right, its just a place with entirely separate laws and a different form of government that has not answered to mainland China or its laws since 1841.
WRONG.
theres a reason its called hong kong SAR.
semi. autonomous. region.
the keyword is semi.
and answer my previous question. -
2019-07-09 at 5:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG Right, its just a place with entirely separate laws and a different form of government that has not answered to mainland China or its laws since 1841.
Right..not a country.
"Sovereignty over the territory was returned to China in 1997"
What Hong Kong has been used to can and will change...sooner or later. -
2019-07-09 at 5:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny WRONG.
theres a reason its called hong kong SAR.
semi. autonomous. region.
the keyword is semi.
and answer my previous question.
Its a straw man, so no.
HK is completely autonomous from the Chinese government. Like I said, different set of laws, different government, different culture, etc. You have to go through a border crossing to get in to Hong Kong. They have different passports. Different language. Different everything. They don't pay a dime of tax to China or receive any form of aid.
It is owned by China but they aren't allowed to interfere with HK in this way, as per the 1997 agreement. One country, two systems. Not one country, one system.
