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Mexico wants to decriminalize all drugs
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2019-05-18 at 7:16 AM UTC
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2019-05-18 at 7:16 AM UTC
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2019-05-18 at 7:19 AM UTCI can't compete with Mexicans lul
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2019-05-18 at 7:20 AM UTC
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2019-05-18 at 1:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I agree in principle, but I've come to realise there are far too many people who couldn't control their use even without the criminalisation issue - it's one thing to be self-destructive, but I can't see a good reason to think the numbers of people driving into oncoming traffic on xanax or abusing their kids on meth wouldn't explode with more low-iq mongolroys getting easy access to 'hard' drugs
BigPharma and the government kill way more people, and present much more of a danger to the public, when drugs are made illegal. If drugs are made legal, x number of people die. When the government and their corporate masters control the drugs, ten times more die. For example, the ridiculous cost of life-saving drugs alone kills thousands of thousands of people every year. -
2019-05-18 at 1:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Thotgirl I can get a pound for that price of the real dank shit from a dealer into and not risk an ass fucking in federal prison.
Stop lying. No one gets a pound of top shelf weed for $150. Best price you're going to get anywhere, even for bulk, is $3/g. That's 454g x $3 = $1,362. -
2019-05-18 at 2:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra that's just it, what do the other 40% or so (who weren't able) do when they're given direct access to them?
When drugs have been decriminalized its shown that usage don't rise. People who use drugs already use drugs. I dont believe you'll see anything more than a minor blip in rise that'll go down very quickly if drugs were decriminalized or legalized.
Alcohol, which is one of the most dangerous drugs both to health and cognitive behavior, is freely accessible at every corner store/liquor store. I truly doubt there would be any more harm to the public than there already is. The only thing that would happen is it would make it more accessable for people to do their drugs safer (knowing what and the purity of what they get, clean needles, and the ability to get help for addiction if they need and want it).
It would take all the violence out of it. Communities would be safer. It would cut the balls off of the cartels.
Make penalties for any violation that harms another person stiffer if anything. However I dont believe driving while on stims should be illegal... After all, we let out military pilots fly jets worth millions of dollars fly on stims anyway. -
2019-05-18 at 2:59 PM UTCMarijuana was recently legalized here, and marijuana use neither rose or fell. Nothing changed, except the pill and alcohol industries are now taking a huge hit.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-05-18 at 5:48 PM UTC150$ n ounce is still way too much. I'll just grow it. Very lucrative market though.
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2019-05-19 at 11:13 AM UTC
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2019-05-19 at 2:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL And by "criminal cartels", we mean BigPharma and all their assorted cohorts and cronies. Imagine if you could just legally manufacture cocaine and sell it to people who want it, or produce your own penicillin and provide it to people who want it. Imagine no more price fixing, no more extortionate billing, no more cornering of the market. You can make and sell whatever you want. If you poison someone, you get criminally charged and convicted and sentenced, just like anyone else who harms someone else. The real "criminal cartels" are the so-called "legitimate" conglomerates. Legalizing all drugs would be a good first step in eliminating their corrupt monopoly once and for all.
The important thing is having government-sanctioned regulations in place.
The FDA (or whatever equivalent organization for other nations) would have to expand it's purview to include any and all drug manufacturers.
It's like how, at least in British Columbia, marijuana farms are government regulated, and so you can still be arrested and convicted for selling marijuana without the proper licensing and so forth. -
2019-05-19 at 2:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I agree in principle, but I've come to realise there are far too many people who couldn't control their use even without the criminalisation issue - it's one thing to be self-destructive, but I can't see a good reason to think the numbers of people driving into oncoming traffic on xanax or abusing their kids on meth wouldn't explode with more low-iq mongolroys getting easy access to 'hard' drugs
This is definitely a concern that I considered as well.
The up-side is that countries that have started to decriminalize all drugs, like Portugal for instance, have found overall decreases in addiction and general use of "harder" drugs, and an increase in people seeking help for recovery now that they don't feel as stigmatized.
But, on the other hand, I do wonder if they factored in the issue of already-popular mainstream/legal drugs like alcohol. Alcohol is just so commonplace that nobody gets judged for getting downright drunk. Yet alcohol is a factor in so many injuries, accidents, deaths, and various acts of violence and destruction.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-05-19 at 3:30 PM UTCfyi I read spectral's post as supporting full legalisation, not just decriminalisation. I have no problem with decriminalisation, it's regulated sale that I feel will cause problems
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2019-05-19 at 3:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra it's regulated sale that I feel will cause problems
Really?
I mean, I'll take decriminalization as a victory...
But the government regulation would result in a TREMENDOUS decrease in deaths caused by impurities (like fentanyl in heroin, for example).
But, of course, there's the issue of the 'harder' drugs becoming so commonplace that marketing and advertising come into the picture.
I'm all for destigmatizing drug use and addiction and all, but, I'd be pretty damn opposed to commercials for crack and heroin.
I don't watch much TV, so maybe things have changed, but they used to advertise alcohol on TV commercials. I actually have a problem with that. Anything that is addictive and/or unhealthy should not be marketable like that.
Heck, I would even go so far as to say that the way popular music glorifies excessive alcohol and drug use kinda bothers me (but my passion for freedom of speech supersedes that concern). -
2019-05-19 at 9:56 PM UTCThat isn't Mexico's politicians speaking out of free will... Those are the cartels talking. And if you value your life in Mexico... you do wut the cartels tell you to do.
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2019-05-19 at 10:25 PM UTCThat would be a master stroke.
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2019-05-20 at 12:28 AM UTCBigRehab is too powerful here. It will never go.
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2019-05-20 at 1:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra cartels typically build their fortunes on exporting drugs, not the domestic market so domestic laws won't make too much difference there. I suspect any startup 'apothecary' trying to get into the market would get snuffed pretty quick
Yep, it's just an excuse the Mexican Gov came up with because they can't deal with their domestic problems...so their way to deal with it is not to deal with it. -
2019-05-20 at 5:30 PM UTC
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2019-05-20 at 5:54 PM UTC
