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2019-05-15 at 5:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson lolol if you knew anything about solder tips you DONT use a scouring pad on the tip…there is a VERY thin layer of tin on a tip and if you remove it or pit it…say by scouring…the tip is fucked.
well idk what kind of soldering iron you have and what kimd of soldering job you do but mine is for general soldering purposes like soldering simple electronic componemts and wires and lights etc etc
so as long as the heating element is working its good, irregardless of whether the soldering tip is rusty, bent or deformed. if its rusted real bad then a sand paper will fix that.
you dont need a soldering iron with a shinny, pristine tip to melt soldering leads, and those that think they do simply lacks soldering skills and are trying to compensate with their ownership of aesthetically pleasing, pristine looking tips.Now addressing your economics…
Sure I'm sure you can buy a solder tip there for $3 instead of $17…but then I bet you can buy a butter knife for 3 cents instead of a dollar….the numbers change, the economics remain the same.
THAT'S why you're in a 3rd world country with 3rd world economics young vinny.
That's your lesson for today, tomorrows lesson will be how to take large objects in your throat without gagging…be on time.
thats what you dont understand about 3rd worlds mentality. sure i can get a butter knife for a quarter, the same price as a spoon, but why would i spend a quarter for a something that a spoon would do ?
i simply use a spoon instead. most households dont have butter knives, and its like only 1 in every 20 houses have real butter. the rest all make do with margerines.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-05-15 at 5:42 PM UTCThe tips on my Weller soldering iron are solid copper.
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2019-05-15 at 5:44 PM UTCSoldering irons don't cost much, but they're still way too expensive for what they actually are. They break easily too. Like a lot of things, they're not made to last a while. They're made for profit. They are incredibly easy to make from scratch, and a homemade one will out-last a store bought one.
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2019-05-15 at 5:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers Soldering irons don't cost much, but they're still way too expensive for what they actually are. They break easily too. Like a lot of things, they're not made to last a while. They're made for profit. They are incredibly easy to make from scratch, and a homemade one will out-last a store bought one.
A decent one costs. Here's the one I have...$500 of your Earth Dollars.
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2019-05-15 at 5:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 The tips on my Weller soldering iron are solid copper.
on the inside dufus...solder irons have a copper core..the outside skin is tin...if the copper is exposed it's fucked.
Edit: Chromium not tin.
As shown in the diagram above, most soldering iron tips have a Copper (Cu) core that conducts heat energy from the heating element to the application being soldered. This core is protected with Iron (Fe) plating that prevents corrosion of the core from the various components of the solder and flux being used in the soldering process. Iron is used due to its ability to conduct heat and its chemical compatibility with the components of solder which allows the solder to flow from the tip to the soldering joint. An additional plating of Chromium (Cr) is added to the tip excluding its working surface, which protects the Iron plating from corrosion. -
2019-05-15 at 5:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson A decent one costs. Here's the one I have…$500 of your Earth Dollars.
You've been hoodwinked. Anybody that would pay that much for a soldering iron is a twat. You can't go back in time and change this. You are officially now a twat.
Mind explaining how anyone could justify a soldering iron being that expensive? What features does it have that would make it that expensive? -
2019-05-15 at 5:52 PM UTCLearned more on using the CRM system in work.
Less fuck ups, more productivity. 👍 -
2019-05-15 at 5:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers You've been hoodwinked. Anybody that would pay that much for a soldering iron is a twat. You can't go back in time and change this. You are officially now a twat.
Mind explaining how anyone could justify a soldering iron being that expensive? What features does it have that would make it that expensive?
Um that's not uncommonly priced for a professional solder station. A $30 one from Walmart is only meant for occasional soldering...if you were using it 8hrs a day 300 days a year you'd soon see the value in a professional station. The tips on a Hakko also last about a year (with HEAVY usage) due to the smart technology in the station (instant cooling and heating when pulled from the holder /put back in the holder)..that feature alone saves your $$$$$ on replacement tips.
Once you've used one regularly you'd never go back to using the $30 one..it's like driving a Lambo and then going back to a Fiat. -
2019-05-15 at 5:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um that's not uncommonly priced for a professional solder station. A $30 one from Walmart is only meant for occasional soldering…if you were using it 8hrs a day 300 days a year you'd soon see the value in a professional station. The tips on a Hakko also last about a year (with HEAVY usage) due to the smart technology in the station (instant cooling and heating when pulled from the holder /put back in the holder)..that feature alone saves your $$$$$ on replacement tips.
Once you've used one regularly you'd never go back to using the $30 one..it's like driving a Lambo and then going back to a Fiat.
"smart technology" lmao
You don't even understand it. There is nothing smart about it. And there is no such thing as "instant cooling" or heating. Try again. -
2019-05-15 at 5:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers You've been hoodwinked. Anybody that would pay that much for a soldering iron is a twat. You can't go back in time and change this. You are officially now a twat.
Mind explaining how anyone could justify a soldering iron being that expensive? What features does it have that would make it that expensive?
well if your fixing smartphones then maybe its required since their very temperature sensitive and a good solder with accurate temp control is desirable.
but then my guess is those are just some of his midlife crisis toys. -
2019-05-15 at 6:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers "smart technology" lmao
You don't even understand it. There is nothing smart about it. And there is no such thing as "instant cooling" or heating. Try again.
Um have you used one? Have you read the manual?
I have...pretty much daily.
"instant" of course not no...when you put it in the holder it cools quickly "instantly" compared with a non regulated iron...when you take it out it heats up to the set temp in about the same amount of time all automatically. -
2019-05-15 at 6:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um have you used one? Have you read the manual?
I have…pretty much daily.
"instant" of course not no…when you put it in the holder it cools quickly "instantly" compared with a non regulated iron…when you take it out it heats up to the set temp in about the same amount of time all automatically.
Your soldering iron isn't going to defy the basic laws of physics. Try again. You're like a white version of the black dudes that are obsessed with having a several hundred dollar pair of Jordans to feel complete. It might impress some prostitutes or hoodrats, but the rest of humanity is going to laugh at you. -
2019-05-15 at 6:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um have you used one? Have you read the manual?
I have…pretty much daily.
"instant" of course not no…when you put it in the holder it cools quickly "instantly" compared with a non regulated iron…when you take it out it heats up to the set temp in about the same amount of time all automatically.
what do you do with it ? -
2019-05-15 at 6:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny but then my guess is those are just some of his midlife crisis toys.
It happens.
Anyhow, accurate temperature control does not require an expensive soldering iron. You can easily make one yourself with extremely precise temperature control for next to nothing (or nothing if you like cannibalizing old components and improvising) -
2019-05-15 at 6:12 PM UTChttps://www.seeedstudio.com/Mini-Soldering-Iron-US-Standard-Shape-BC-p-2494.html
I use one of these now. Probably not heavy duty enough if you're using it 8 hours a day, but the pencil size is much more comfortable and accurate, it gets to 300 in like 5 seconds flat and you can even run it off a USB port or battery if you need to (limited temp though I think, standard adapter is 12v) -
2019-05-15 at 6:13 PM UTCniggas soldering computer parts n shit, i've only ever soldered pipes :(
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2019-05-15 at 6:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra https://www.seeedstudio.com/Mini-Soldering-Iron-US-Standard-Shape-BC-p-2494.html
I use one of these now. Probably not heavy duty enough if you're using it 8 hours a day, but the pencil size is much more comfortable and accurate, it gets to 300 in like 5 seconds flat and you can even run it off a USB port or battery if you need to (limited temp though I think, standard adapter is 12v)
nice. -
2019-05-15 at 6:35 PM UTChttps://phys.org/news/2013-07-competitor-diamond-thermal-conductor.html
Chances are your heating element regardless of what you use is going to be a resistance metal. So the material that makes the core of the tip and the coating of the tip isn't too important.
EDIT: I might try making a soldering iron with silver/diamond core inside the heating element. Maybe I'll use a gold tip.
EDIT: Nvm, can't use gold. -
2019-05-15 at 6:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers https://phys.org/news/2013-07-competitor-diamond-thermal-conductor.html
Chances are your heating element regardless of what you use is going to be a resistance metal. So the material that makes the core of the tip and the coating of the tip isn't too important.
EDIT: I might try making a soldering iron with silver/diamond core inside the heating element. Maybe I'll use a gold tip.
on cheap ones like the one i have
you can just unscrew the screw and replace the tip with either a coper rod or an iron nail. -
2019-05-15 at 6:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny on cheap ones like the one i have
Right, a lot of people use nails. Won't heat up quite as fast as a thin coating of iron or steel, but it'll work. People are just impatient. I'm wondering about glass tips.
you can just unscrew the screw and replace the tip with either a coper rod or an iron nail.
