2019-05-09 at 10:37 AM UTC
Or are they just 'bad' because they lost the war?
2019-05-09 at 10:42 AM UTC
aldra
JIDF Controlled Opposition
pretty much
they keep getting dredged up as a bogeyman because it's the last time the US was on the winning side of a significant war and the 'state' of israel is dependent on the associated holocaust mythology as moral justification for its existence and crimes.
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2019-05-09 at 10:45 AM UTC
Nazi memorabilia isn't banned because it inspires hate, it's banned because they lost a war and it's too edgy to support the side that lost.
Also lol at nationalism inspiring hate. How can you love others if you can't love yourself first?
2019-05-09 at 10:53 AM UTC
aldra
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National Socialism is a dangerous doctrine for current sources of power because it places value on things that cannot be bought, sold or traded - things like loyalty, pride (racial, familial, personal), rejection of high finance and the 'rentier economies' in favour of socialist organisation principles etc.
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2019-05-09 at 11:23 AM UTC
I only care about the nationalism part
2019-05-09 at 11:48 AM UTC
If you were actually evil no one would demonise you.
2019-05-09 at 2:06 PM UTC
Good and evil doesn't exist. But they were certainly massively immoral. However that is not because of some essential malice but because of the expertly handled propaganda campaign and political leverage of the Nazi party. Most nazia were just normal people caught in the wrong situation.
2019-05-09 at 5:21 PM UTC
Number13
African Astronaut
[dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
About as evil as any side during the war
2019-05-09 at 5:29 PM UTC
Germans in general make excellent soldiers. Their special forces trained the original American special forces, but they're often overly empathetic as a people. The nazis were no different. During the revolutionary war, people noted it was much better to be captured by the Hessian soldiers than taken by the British, because you'd get treated much better if the Germans caught you. Ironically, a lot of lies have been made up about Germany's National Socialist party during world war two.
2019-05-09 at 6:21 PM UTC
STER0S
Space Nigga
[the disappointingly unanticipated slab]
a lot of things were probably sodomized since they were all spun-out.
2019-05-09 at 7:03 PM UTC
Number13
African Astronaut
[dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
Wire is there to protect the kids from the guy with the camera.
2019-05-09 at 8:19 PM UTC
The US placed Japanese people in internment camps too. It's actually not uncommon throughout history for people to be placed in internment camps. The bolsheviks treated prisoners much, much worse, though.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Nobel-Prize-winning novelist, historian and critic of Communist totalitarianism:
"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the "Russian Revolution." It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators."
The worst genocide in history wasn't the Holocaust … in fact, it was perpetrated by members of the very same group of people who claim they were the victims of one. And it took the lives of 66 million (Solzhenitsyn's estimate of those who perished between 1918 and 1957), not 6 million.
Few outside of Russia and the former USSR are aware of it, and that's the way the powers that be in Western countries want to keep it. You cannot get Solzhenitsyn's book "Two Hundred Years Together" in English, as it's blacklisted in English-speaking countries, and no major publisher will touch it. Just as concerning, no one's ever made it past translating more than 60% of the two-volume work online.
One page commenter wrote "My grandmother used to tell me these same things from the old country … the US culture is brainwashed about all happened over there."
After the banker-financed takeover in 1917, Russia became a vast, monolithic killing field on a level not seen in the world before or since. Unimaginable horrors on an unimaginable scale took place in the ensuing years and decades, as Christians, the middle and upper classes, and those who disagreed with the regime were wiped out. Joseph Stalin, the Georgian who was the de facto leader from the mid 1920s to his death in 1953, was - despite occasionally rocking the boat - subservient to the real power behind the Soviet Union.
While most of the victims died due to the lethal conditions of gulags and engineered famines such as the Holodomor in the Ukraine (/lvsvxl2), hellish orgies of murder and torture were also unleashed. Russia's population today (143 million) is half or less of what it would have been had this Satanic catastrophe not befallen them.
This was all bankrolled in large part by Kuhn, Loeb & Co., which later became Lehman Brothers.
-The Hidden World
"Priests were crucified and had their eyes gouged out and tongues cut off. Their churches were burnt to the ground or turned into toilet houses or Synagogues. Some of the victims were boiled alive. Others were placed in boxes with rats or had hot lead poured into their mouths. Babies were cut out of pregnant women and slaughtered in front of the mothers. Some victim’s had their stomachs cut open and their intestines nailed to a pole and then were forced to run around the pole until their guts unraveled and they died. Sometimes the next day’s victim was forced to watch. Children were tortured in front of their parents. Women in front of their husbands."
A former Soviet functionary named Mikhail Voslensky wrote about some of the methods of torture and murder in his book Nomenclature:
"In Kharkov, people were scalped. In Vorenezh, the torture victims were placed in barrels into which nails were hammered so that they stuck out on the inside, upon which the barrels were set rolling. A pentacle (usually a five pointed star formerly used in magic) was burned into the foreheads of the victims. In Tsaritsyn and Kamyshin, the hands of victims were amputated with a saw. In Poltava and Kremenchug, the victims were impaled. In Odessa, they were roasted alive in ovens or ripped to pieces. In Kiev, the victims were placed in coffins with a decomposing body and buried alive, only to be dug up again after half an hour."
Again, the National Socialist party of world war two Germany locked people up, but other than their eugenics and horrific science experiments on people(which a shit-ton of other governments were doing before and after), they actually treated prisoners a lot better than many other governments throughout history.
A thread I made:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1223442/pg1
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2019-05-09 at 10:15 PM UTC
The results of war are never good. The results of a war where one country takes on several other countries by itself and nearly takes over the world is going to have very bad results.
2019-05-09 at 11:17 PM UTC
-SpectraL
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[the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
In the lineup for the gas chamber. Five minutes pass. The line moves up another 50 people. Five minutes later, the line moves up another 50 people. A pause. Then the lineup moves up another 50 people. Everyone in the line waiting for their turn.
