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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2019-05-01 at 10:53 AM UTC
meat is vital to human lives.
is it less moral to put the lives of humans first before animals, or v.v. -
2019-05-01 at 11:02 AM UTCCrystals is vital to human lifes
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2019-05-01 at 11:06 AM UTCWhy is this shit stickied
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2019-05-01 at 11:16 AM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 12:38 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 12:38 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 12:42 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 12:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Pay attention. The reason why is that 0.63 miles per hour could be quick or slow depending on if you ask the tortoise or the hare. It is the same reason a 6 " cock could be long or short depending on who you ask. Same reason gazelle murder could be good for the lion but bad for the gazelle. I think you already know why - the reason is that all these things are relative.
0.63 miles per hour is objectively 0.63 miles per hour. This speed is not considered quick nor slow unless we are comparing it to something else.
Similarly, <some objective measurement> is objectively <some objective measurement>. That measurement is not considered good nor bad unless we are comparing it to something else.
Goodness and badness are analogous to quickness and slowness. Goodness and badness are relative.
But you could just as easily look at it as there existing a sliding scale of objective goodness and badness, and goodness is analogous to 0.63 miles per hour and badness is analogous to -0.63 miles per hour. Things can be "gooder" or "badder", and those are relative terms, but good and bad needn't be.
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2019-05-01 at 2:42 PM UTCBeing relative doesn't mean it's not objectively determinable.
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2019-05-01 at 2:45 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 3:16 PM UTCshut up DTE
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2019-05-01 at 5:14 PM UTCPerformance and correctness over feature richness- Yeah, like a total fucking communist.
Alcohol is evil and has murdered millions of people from destroyed food produce. -
2019-05-01 at 5:22 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 5:24 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-05-01 at 6:34 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 6:44 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 7:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS But you could just as easily look at it as there existing a sliding scale of objective goodness and badness, and goodness is analogous to 0.63 miles per hour and badness is analogous to -0.63 miles per hour. Things can be "gooder" or "badder", and those are relative terms, but good and bad needn't be.
(That said, I basically agree that good/bad are relative, but it's not like that's objectively true or anything.)
Y'know, I never thought of it that way before. Thanks HTS... you've lifted the veil off my eyes. -
2019-05-01 at 7:37 PM UTC
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2019-05-01 at 7:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Basically what I was trying to say with the whole 0.63/-0.63 things. *shrug*
Right, I'm agreeing with you. But Obbe's claim was that good and bad is of the same nature, so 0.63 mph is fast for 0 mph and slow for 1 mph. Your point doesn't address that claim. That fact is irreconcilable from either perspective.
But the simple fact is that he hasn't actually established good and bad is like that in any way, and I've established the opposite.
