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Pepsi accuses Hindus of stealing their GMO Spuds.

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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    PepsiCo has sued four Indian farmers for cultivating a potato variety that the snack food and drinks maker claims infringes its patent, the company and the growers said on Friday. Pepsi has sued the farmers for cultivating the FC5 potato variety, grown exclusively for its popular Lay's potato chips. The FC5 variety has a lower moisture content required to make snacks such as potato chips. The company is seeking more than $142,840 each for alleged patent infringement.

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story/19/04/27/0246251/pepsico-sues-four-indian-farmers-for-using-its-patented-lays-potatoes

    Lays taste like shit anyway.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Indian farmers should countersue GMO farmers for allowing their 'patented' crops to contaminate their own
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    to clarify, a farm with a specific strain of whatever crop is not self-contained - they eventually travel far, often contaminating nearby farms and fields.

    allowing companies to sue farmers for cultivating a specific, patented (which is absurd in and of itself) plant without having to prove foreknowledge or intent is extremely predatory behavior, especially considering that contamination can easily happen without their knowledge.
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    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    The farmers seem to have actually stolen the cultivar. I wonder why - are the potatoes good to eat?

    In general all these cases where farmers get sued have involved large scale deliberate action, though of course anti-GMO sorts always try to lie about that part.
  5. #5
    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country The farmers seem to have actually stolen the cultivar. I wonder why - are the potatoes good to eat

    GMO's are better for farming because they have better disease and pest resistance, higher yields and glyphosate resistance.

    Most farmers use GMO seeds because of the cost savings associated with them. They are all around better in every way which is why Monsanto is so aggressive with their patents because if they weren't people would use them a lot more than they do now.

    You can't just buy them at any seed dealer either, you have to sign a stewardship contract

    https://www.siegers.com/media/pdfs/Monsanto_Technology_Stewardship_Agreement_FAQ.pdf

    What is an MTSA?
    The Monsanto Technology/Stewardship Agreement (MTSA)
    is a legal agreement between Monsanto and a grower that
    gives the grower a limited license to use, and describes
    stewardship guidelines and obligations for, Monsanto
    patented traits and germplasm and plant variety
    protection rights (Monsanto Technology).

    Who is required to have an MTSA?
    Any grower who wishes to purchase and plant seed that
    contains Monsanto Technology must have a valid MTSA.


    Originally posted by aldra Indian farmers should countersue GMO farmers for allowing their 'patented' crops to contaminate their own

    Monsanto can sue farmers that grow GMO seeds for allowing them to contaminate other fields. People think Monsanto goes after farmers that have their fields contaminated by GMO crops but it's the other way around, allowing that to happen in the first place is a breach of the contract you sign when you buy the seeds from them, you are obligated to take measures to ensure that doesn't happen.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country The farmers seem to have actually stolen the cultivar. I wonder why - are the potatoes good to eat?

    Where? I didn't see anything about that in the article

    I don't see why they'd be good for anything except chips considering the key characteristic is reduced moisture retention
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    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra I don't see why they'd be good for anything except chips considering the key characteristic is reduced moisture retention

    I searched "FC5 potato variety" looking for traits and characteristics but I could only find stuff about the farmers getting sued. I did manage to find this though

    https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050081269A1/en

    "the present invention provides for Single Gene Converted plants of FL 2027. The single gene transferred may be a dominant or recessive allele. Preferably, the single gene transferred will confer such traits as herbicide resistance, insect resistance, resistance for bacterial, fungal or viral disease, uniformity and increase in concentration of starch and other carbohydrates, decrease in tendency of tuber to bruise and decrease in the rate of conversion of starch to sugars. The single gene transferred may be a naturally occurring gene or a transgene introduced through genetic engineering techniques."
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  8. #8
    A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    marijuana pepsi jackson says she liikes coca cola flavored taters more better
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Ghost I searched "FC5 potato variety" looking for traits and characteristics but I could only find stuff about the farmers getting sued. I did manage to find this though

    https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050081269A1/en

    "the present invention provides for Single Gene Converted plants of FL 2027. The single gene transferred may be a dominant or recessive allele. Preferably, the single gene transferred will confer such traits as herbicide resistance, insect resistance, resistance for bacterial, fungal or viral disease, uniformity and increase in concentration of starch and other carbohydrates, decrease in tendency of tuber to bruise and decrease in the rate of conversion of starch to sugars. The single gene transferred may be a naturally occurring gene or a transgene introduced through genetic engineering techniques."

    that's just ideal outcomes resulting from gene transfer though, they probably don't release datasheets on specific crops
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    A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    corn chastity devices keep monsanto from raping ur bottom line, heres what you need to know
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    Originally posted by Ghost GMO's are better for farming because they have better disease and pest resistance, higher yields and glyphosate resistance.

    Most farmers use GMO seeds because of the cost savings associated with them. They are all around better in every way which is why Monsanto is so aggressive with their patents because if they weren't people would use them a lot more than they do now.

    You can't just buy them at any seed dealer either, you have to sign a stewardship contract

    https://www.siegers.com/media/pdfs/Monsanto_Technology_Stewardship_Agreement_FAQ.pdf






    Monsanto can sue farmers that grow GMO seeds for allowing them to contaminate other fields. People think Monsanto goes after farmers that have their fields contaminated by GMO crops but it's the other way around, allowing that to happen in the first place is a breach of the contract you sign when you buy the seeds from them, you are obligated to take measures to ensure that doesn't happen.

    but we're not talking about monsanto here.

    how did them hindu farmers got their hands on pepsi's patented seed in the first place ?
  12. #12
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Why would they resort to a lawsuit instead of a cease and desist and try to do something locally? Now pepsico looks like a bully
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    Originally posted by Sudo Why would they resort to a lawsuit instead of a cease and desist and try to do something locally? Now pepsico looks like a bully

    only now ?
  14. #14
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Sudo Why would they resort to a lawsuit instead of a cease and desist and try to do something locally? Now pepsico looks like a bully

    Because they really aren't interested in stopping its use, just stealing the money and property of the farmers. They've been doing this for a decade. Like aldra said, they gleefully allow their products to contaminate fields and then sue to try and rob them of everything they have. They're real-life monsters. Soulless creeps. Abhorrent and repulsive creatures that shouldn't even be taking another breath on this world.
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