zizek vs jordan peterson

1. 2019-04-20 at 6:55 PM UTC

   #101
   

   Common De-mominator African Astronaut

   Originally posted by vindicktive vinny why dont you just say society is the result of people giving up their freedom enmass.

   
   Because en masse isn't any simpler.
2. 2019-04-20 at 7:49 PM UTC

   #102
   

   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by Common De-mominator Because en masse isn't any simpler.

   
   what is ?
3. 2019-04-20 at 7:51 PM UTC

   #103
   

   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by Narc Watch on yt an all
   
   Forward to 44 mins to save listening to 44 mins of some mug doing intros.
   
   
   
   
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   also, for those who dont have or dont want to spend almost 4 hours on the debate, heres the best summary of all the essentials of the debate.
   
   beginning at the first minute mark.
   
   
   The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!

   • Common De-mominator, 
   • Lanny
4. 2019-04-20 at 7:56 PM UTC

   #104
   

   Common De-mominator African Astronaut

   Originally posted by vindicktive vinny what is ?

   
   

   Originally posted by Common De-mominator It just means we are equal in giving up the same freedoms.

5. 2019-04-20 at 7:58 PM UTC

   #105
   

   Common De-mominator African Astronaut

   Originally posted by vindicktive vinny also, for those who dont have or dont want to spend almost 4 hours on the debate, heres the best summary of all the essentials of the debate.
   
   beginning at the first minute mark.
   
   

   
   Honestly, I haven't watched this summary but I can't possibly imagine it is an adequate representation of at least Zizek's side. It just wasn't compressible to that degree.
6. 2019-04-20 at 8:16 PM UTC

   #106
   

   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by Common De-mominator

   
   is it possible for us to unequally in giving up the same freedoms ?
   
   or equal in giving up the different freedoms ?
7. 2019-04-20 at 8:16 PM UTC

   #107
   

   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by Common De-mominator Honestly, I haven't watched this summary but I can't possibly imagine it is an adequate representation of at least Zizek's side. It just wasn't compressible to that degree.

   
   just watch it.
8. 2019-04-20 at 9:11 PM UTC

   #108
   

   Common De-mominator African Astronaut

   Originally posted by vindicktive vinny is it possible for us to unequally in giving up the same freedoms ?

   
   You can be affected to unequal degrees. For example if you are all subject to the same tax code but only people who can hire an accountant can leverage it fully.
   
   
   

   or equal in giving up the different freedoms ?

   
   Probably not
9. 2019-04-20 at 9:24 PM UTC

   #109
   

   Common De-mominator African Astronaut

   Originally posted by vindicktive vinny just watch it.

   
   Lol
10. 2019-04-20 at 9:44 PM UTC

    #110
    

    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny also, for those who dont have or dont want to spend almost 4 hours on the debate, heres the best summary of all the essentials of the debate.
    
    beginning at the first minute mark.
    
    

    
    I clicked to a random point and heard Zizek talk about surreptitiously fucking a woman with a sausage
    
    I'm just going to say he won and I don't need to hear any more
11. 2019-04-21 at 5:30 AM UTC

    #111
    

    Lanny Bird of Courage

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny also, for those who dont have or dont want to spend almost 4 hours on the debate, heres the best summary of all the essentials of the debate.
    
    beginning at the first minute mark.
    
    

    
    "and then you have those that would take the meat and bread off the sandwich, like that's not a sandwich at all it's just a salad, that's just chaos incarnate"
    
    I'm dying
12. 2019-04-21 at 5:36 AM UTC

    #112
    

    Krow African Astronaut
    Who are these people? Is this a Canadian thing?
13. 2019-04-21 at 7:40 AM UTC

    #113
    

    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by Common De-mominator You can be affected to unequal degrees. For example if you are all subject to the same tax code but only people who can hire an accountant can leverage it fully.

    
    because then you all be equally giving up unsame freedoms.
    
    
    

    Probably not

    
    my point is that its redundant to say 'equally giving up the same freedoms' since its not possible to be equal when we give up different freedom or unequal when we give up the same freedom.
    
    your simply complicating complicated stuff that can easily be simplified.
14. 2019-04-21 at 7:41 AM UTC

    #114
    

    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by Krow Who are these people? Is this a Canadian thing?

    
    their the alex jones of philisophy.
15. 2019-04-21 at 1:06 PM UTC

    #115
    

    Common De-mominator African Astronaut

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny because then you all be equally giving up unsame freedoms.

    
    No the relinquished freedoms are the same.
    
    
    
    
    

    my point is that its redundant to say 'equally giving up the same freedoms' since its not possible to be equal when we give up different freedom or unequal when we give up the same freedom.
    
    your simply complicating complicated stuff that can easily be simplified.

    
    I didn't say that you illiterate chink.
    
    I said "equal in giving up the same freedoms" i.e. they are equal in that respect, not that they are equally giving up the same freedoms, which would indeed be redundant.
16. 2019-04-21 at 4:41 PM UTC

    #116
    

    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by Lanny "and then you have those that would take the meat and bread off the sandwich, like that's not a sandwich at all it's just a salad, that's just chaos incarnate"
    
    I'm dying

    
    its like the guy understood both men at a cellular level.
17. 2019-04-21 at 4:43 PM UTC

    #117
    

    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by Common De-mominator No the relinquished freedoms are the same.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I didn't say that you illiterate chink.
    
    I said "equal in giving up the same freedoms" i.e. they are equal in that respect, not that they are equally giving up the same freedoms, which would indeed be redundant.

    
    let me ask you again, can they be 'unequal in giving up the same freedom' ?
18. 2019-04-21 at 5:59 PM UTC

    #118
    

    Common De-mominator African Astronaut

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny let me ask you again, can they be 'unequal in giving up the same freedom' ?

    
    I mean, what the fuck are you asking at this point? In terms of actual freedoms, no, that's by definition not the case. But you can be unequally affected by giving up the same freedoms. What's the question?
19. 2019-04-21 at 6:03 PM UTC

    #119
    

    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Ignore him he chats shit
    
    
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20. 2019-04-22 at 3:45 AM UTC

    #120
    

    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by Common De-mominator I mean, what the fuck are you asking at this point? In terms of actual freedoms, no, that's by definition not the case. But you can be unequally affected by giving up the same freedoms. What's the question?

    
    ok, tell me what the phrase 'we are giving up the same freedoms' cant convey that the phrase 'we are equal in giving up the same freedoms' can.