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zizek vs jordan peterson

  1. #61
    Originally posted by yabbadabbadindunuthin This thread really went downhill before I got a chance to respond to it due to Lanny's built in "you can't post anymore until we deem you cool enough" feature. At any rate, nobody asked me, but since this is an open forum I'll throw in my two cents.

    I managed to make this far in life without reading Peterson, but I finally caved in earlier this year because people have been incessantly talking about him. I would say that I think he's a very gifted undergraduate lecturer and any bachelor's psychology program would be very fortunate to have such an involved and passionate instructor. Moreover, I think he does leverage good criticisms of socialism (albeit perhaps a bit shallow at time). However, I will say that it's pretty obvious that he doesn't really reach people who seriously study philosophy or psychology outside of this immediate limited audience. While he speaks claims with a certain amount passion, confidence, and conviction, he never really defends any of their prerequisite assumptions very well. For example, he might make grandiose claims about the nature of mankind and appeal to archetypes when pressed, but I haven't really seen any thorough work on his behalf proving that either 1) there is a cause and effect relationship between archetypes and "human nature" or 2) that, if this relationship existed, it's linear instead of reciprocal. Similarly, when he makes claims that the Jesus mythos is foundational to the formation of Western culture, he doesn't really address potential extraneous variables that influenced it or even influenced early Christianity (which I assume anyone would anticipate when making such large-scale claims).

    The short version is that you can be a moderately successful academic and not necessarily be a very good critical thinker. I also can't help but think that more powerful institutions who would profit from someone packaging conservative morality with secular arguments are endorsing him and promoting his career a lot more forcefully than he potentially would have succeeded on the merits of his ideas alone.

    i fell asleep while trying to force myself watching zizek talk but when jordan talks i have an errection.

    i think its clear whos the beta here,
  2. #62
    supplice Yung Blood
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  3. #63
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Getting pretty close now, get hype.
  4. #64
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Guarantee this is gonna be boring. Jordan Peterson doesn't know shit.
  5. #65
    zizek is a sexual pervert.
  6. #66
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny zizek is a sexual pervert.

    Yeah but he's a cool pervert tho.
  7. #67
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Yeah but he's a cool pervert tho.

    to each their own perversion.
  8. #68
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    https://www.jordanvsslavojdebate.com/

    15 bux to livestream it.
  9. #69
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Nil https://www.jordanvsslavojdebate.com/

    15 bux to livestream it.

    Lol.

    Peterson's gonna get trashed worse than Hotel Rwanda room service.
  10. #70
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Zizek is going to make communism look good
  11. #71
    peterson can only tell you how you are not an beta, and why you arent an beta.

    he cant make you an beta.

    zikzek can only tell you because you do this and that, you are a beta and have secret desire to fuck your mother.

    he cant turn you into an beta.

    so watching either, or both of them will not make you any betaier than the beta state you currently are in.

    they cant.
  12. #72
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny peterson can only tell you how you are not an beta, and why you arent an beta.

    he cant make you an beta.

    zikzek can only tell you because you do this and that, you are a beta and have secret desire to fuck your mother.

    he cant turn you into an beta.

    so watching either, or both of them will not make you any betaier than the beta state you currently are in.

    they cant.

    both of them agree that Asians can never be betas.
  13. #73
    Originally posted by Sudo both of them agree that Asians can never be betas.

    true.

    asians are far too superior to be graded by mere beta-bets.
  14. #74
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny peterson can only tell you how you are not an beta, and why you arent an beta.

    he cant make you an beta.

    zikzek can only tell you because you do this and that, you are a beta and have secret desire to fuck your mother.

    he cant turn you into an beta.

    so watching either, or both of them will not make you any betaier than the beta state you currently are in.

    they cant.

    Alfas don exits
  15. #75
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Alfas don exits in a betas world. here everyones a beta.
  16. #76
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    betas simply don't exist
  17. #77
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator betas simply don't exist

  18. #78
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny

    Why are u linking to an Alfa?
  19. #79
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Why are u linking to an beta?

    truth.
  20. #80
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny You are the only extant Alfa, CF

    True
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