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Well the Mueller report is in the hands of the AG, now what?
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2019-04-10 at 6:26 PM UTCI'm sure some are going to jail but Hillary will walk.
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2019-04-10 at 6:33 PM UTC
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2019-04-10 at 6:36 PM UTCFuck off
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2019-04-10 at 8:23 PM UTCAnd some major deep state actors are rolling over as we speak, trying to save their own sorry hides from the hangman's noose. McCabe is putting it right on them. Page also folded. Ohr is wriggling in his seat and wants to tell all. Baker has been singing like a bird. Even Clapper is sweating it. Wear a wire to secretly record the President of the United States? Really? Weaponize a FISA court and several US government agencies to spy on an incoming political campaign opposition and mastermind an orchestrated attack on a sitting President? For real? Shit is about to hit the fan big time, folks. Time to sit back and enjoy the show.
18 U.S. Code § 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
18 U.S. Code § 2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
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2019-04-11 at 5:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL 18 U.S. Code § 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
so whats the point of letting them having guns ? -
2019-04-11 at 1:46 PM UTC
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2019-04-11 at 5:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Well, the Constitution gives "We the People" the legal option to override their own government, and their own government's laws.
but 18 U.S. Code § 2384. clearly says they they cant override the governmemt by brute force.
so either this title is unconstitutional or the 2nd ammd is invalid. -
2019-04-11 at 8:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny but 18 U.S. Code § 2384. clearly says they they cant override the governmemt by brute force.
so either this title is unconstitutional or the 2nd ammd is invalid.
The Constitution supersedes all US law, except for the Constitution itself. The founding fathers were wise, weren't they? -
2019-04-11 at 8:30 PM UTCSpectral aren't you in Canada
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2019-04-11 at 8:33 PM UTC
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2019-04-11 at 8:36 PM UTCLOL ok, but that doesn't answer my question
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2019-04-11 at 11:49 PM UTC
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2019-04-12 at 11:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL And some major deep state actors are rolling over as we speak, trying to save their own sorry hides from the hangman's noose. McCabe is putting it right on them. Page also folded. Ohr is wriggling in his seat and wants to tell all. Baker has been singing like a bird. Even Clapper is sweating it. Wear a wire to secretly record the President of the United States? Really? Weaponize a FISA court and several US government agencies to spy on an incoming political campaign opposition and mastermind an orchestrated attack on a sitting President? For real? Shit is about to hit the fan big time, folks. Time to sit back and enjoy the show.
*orgasm.... -
2019-04-12 at 11:11 AM UTCI seriously doubt anything significant will come of it, but it'd be nice to see clapper go to jail
or better yet one of the black sites he managed -
2019-04-12 at 11:19 AM UTCEven if nothing comes out of it, congress and the American people deserve to see the report, as long as the intelligence is redacted. I thought Barr would have integrity. Not so sure now, but I’ll wait till the report comes out.
He sure acted like trumps personal lawyer the past 2 days. He’s jumped right in with trumps conspiracy theories. He’s lost a lot of credibility because of this shit. -
2019-04-12 at 11:27 AM UTCI was talking about the AG's new probe
It's not a conspiracy theory that the Steele dossier was completely detached from reality and not credible, that it was the major basis for all this 'collusion' nonsense or that the FBI performed surveillance on the Trump campaign at the behest of the Obama administration.
Barr's line of questioning is completely legitimate - was there any real security basis for the surveillance and subsequent probes and media frenzies, or were supposedly impartial entities (such as the FBI and FISA courts) simply used as political weapons? -
2019-04-12 at 11:33 AM UTCThere has to be a court ruling before surveillance can be conducted, and there were. This spying shit is baloney. As long as they followed protocol, there is nothing nefarious about it.
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2019-04-12 at 11:40 AM UTCFISA is not a regular court and all of its proceedings are kept secret. There have been serious questions about its impartiality, process and how it's been used to essentially rubber-stamp the expansion of the surveillance state long before Trump
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2019-04-12 at 11:45 AM UTCYes, but there was nothing illegal about surveilling his campaign, there was intel that the Russians were trying to sway our elections. It looks like they sure did.
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2019-04-12 at 11:54 AM UTCAgain, that was largely based on the Steele dossier which was commissioned by the Clinton campaign and its contents completely absurd. The fact that the FBI thought it was worth opening an investigation into Trump over that indicates either a political motive or gross incompetence.
There have been no arrests during the course of the probe that relate to Russian control over anything. The only actual evidence given to support any Russian involvement in that US election were ~$4k worth of politically-themed advertisements and some shit memes shared from a Russian IP range.
Even Twitter backtracked and admitted they misidentified 'Russian bots' and that there was no surge of activity (amusingly enough they're now blaming Venezuela, but that's a different story).
