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Caught shoplifting at walmart?
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2019-03-12 at 6:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by OG_GREENPLASTIC_JOHNSON_III 1. how many of those shoppers were bears?
2. how many tried to fight you?
3. how many did you beat to a pulp?
4. how many beat you to a pulp?
5. do you like your orange juice with or without pulp?
I've arrested cops, priests, ambassadors, lawyers, teachers, gansters, boosters, credit card fraudsters, refund scammers, tag switchers, employees, you name it. About 1 in 4 fight as soon as they find out they're under arrest and you're not leaving, so you're looking at at least one all-out fist fight and wrestling match to the ground pretty well every single day. Sometimes two or three. At the end of my almost 10 years of pure hell on the job, I had hairline fractures all through my hands and knuckles, knees and elbows, and I felt like my whole body had been put through a wringer a thousand times. I've had to literally drag hundreds and hundreds of people into the store and right into the back office by force. -
2019-03-12 at 11:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL I've arrested cops, priests, ambassadors, lawyers, teachers, gansters, boosters, credit card fraudsters, refund scammers, tag switchers, employees, you name it. About 1 in 4 fight as soon as they find out they're under arrest and you're not leaving, so you're looking at at least one all-out fist fight and wrestling match to the ground pretty well every single day. Sometimes two or three. At the end of my almost 10 years of pure hell on the job, I had hairline fractures all through my hands and knuckles, knees and elbows, and I felt like my whole body had been put through a wringer a thousand times. I've had to literally drag hundreds and hundreds of people into the store and right into the back office by force.
damn sounds like you got your ass kicked -
2019-03-13 at 12:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by OG_GREENPLASTIC_JOHNSON_III damn sounds like you got your ass kicked
Never lost one fight in all my apprehensions. Although, I did have all male staff on constant alert to jump in on a "code Mary", if there were more than one actor involved. When you work loss prevention at a busy and large department store, you have to know how to take people down. -
2019-03-13 at 12:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL I've apprehended over 5,000 shoplifters. Ask me anything.
So if shoplifting was successful multiple times from the same store do they log the footage on camera and review the tapes? So if I were to get caught it would be for multiple offences.
Typically I take large value/size items and just casually walk out the front door, often engaging with staff. Think this method would slip under the radar of LP. I dress well and know what the item is and where in advance, walk in and out quickly ( but not running or acting weird). What do you think? -
2019-03-13 at 12:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ughhu So if shoplifting was successful multiple times from the same store do they log the footage on camera and review the tapes? So if I were to get caught it would be for multiple offences.
Typically I take large value/size items and just casually walk out the front door, often engaging with staff. Think this method would slip under the radar of LP. I dress well and know what the item is and where in advance, walk in and out quickly ( but not running or acting weird). What do you think?
When I worked LP, back in '90's, I had a double row of 4 VCR's continually taping, changing the cassettes when required. So I could simultaneously record eight hot cameras from the floor, staff room, and receiving area, and then when I did inventory, and noticed any irregularities, I could go back and pull up practically anything, going back months. I would imagine, today, they would use computer files to store continuous recordings from the cameras. LP is also responsible for master inventory, so it's very easy to detect a returning actor if he's hit big several times, and what he looks like, and what he's taking. We would take still photos from the video and post them on office wall, so their faces were always fresh in mind.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-03-13 at 9:35 PM UTCHow about if it were a big chain, would they compare actors from their records
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2019-03-13 at 9:38 PM UTCWas there ever a ever a person that got away with a lot and didn't ever get caught?
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2019-03-13 at 9:41 PM UTCWhat do you define as a lot?
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2019-03-13 at 9:43 PM UTC
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2019-03-13 at 9:46 PM UTC
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2019-03-13 at 9:48 PM UTCI’ve didn’t acquire 20k worth of stuff in the last 6 months with no issues. But who’s to say how long that will last
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2019-03-13 at 9:48 PM UTC
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2019-03-13 at 9:55 PM UTCOkay, here's my story of the one time I was caught shoplifting...
I was broke and unemployed, but met up with a friend with a few bucks in my pockets, not enough to do anything fun (i.e.: buy liquor), so my friend offered me $10 to steal one of the bigger bottles of benadryl (it was allergy season).
So, being prettyconfidentcocky regarding my skills as a shoplifter (gained from dozens of successful attempts and zero failures), I said, sure, just gimme 2 minutes.
So we walk into the store together, I just slip the pills into my huge jacket with a hundred pockets.
Then, we leave the store and go to the mall washrooms. I hand him the pills, we do our bathroom business, then we exit the washrooms, only to be greeted by a uniformed security guard standing directly in front of us.
We just walk around him and start walking towards the mall exit, but the guard follows suit.
Then, like 3 undercover loss prevention officers encircle my friend and I, leaving us incapable of making any kind of dramatic, daring escape.
They escort us into the back security room for the store I had stolen from.
A couple of police officers show up, and then they have us empty our pockets.
Now, that technicality on which I got away scot-free...
They had me on video pocketing the pills.
But when they searched us, the pills were in my friends pocket.
Therefore, there was no way for them to prove that I didn't take the pills out of my pocket while still in the store.
And my friend just so happened to have an identical box of the exact same pills.
The cops were pretty frustrated by the whole scenario, but, ultimately, had no choice but to let us go. -
2019-03-13 at 10:11 PM UTCIt sounds like it they could've pursued it and likely gotten a conviction but its petty shoplifting and they really just dont give a shit. Some places have special programs now for those caught shoplifting, an alternative to jail to help relieve cops from having to waste their time on the cough bundy stealers.
I see the technicality but they could probably just run the barcode on the box and match up up with inventory logs to see that it belonged in the store and hadn't been purchased yet, and that you'mr buddy in fact didnt just happen to have it on him. That's what I'd do anyway. Or make you show me where you supposedly took it back out of your pocket. -
2019-03-13 at 10:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ It sounds like it they could've pursued it and likely gotten a conviction but its petty shoplifting and they really just dont give a shit. Some places have special programs now for those caught shoplifting, an alternative to jail to help relieve cops from having to waste their time on the cough bundy stealers.
I see the technicality but they could probably just run the barcode on the box and match up up with inventory logs to see that it belonged in the store and hadn't been purchased yet, and that you'mr buddy in fact didnt just happen to have it on him. That's what I'd do anyway. Or make you show me where you supposedly took it back out of your pocket.
I suppose technically it would not be physically impossible to do all of that.
But it would cost them hundreds of dollars in labor costs (to do all that research), as well as tons of paper work, etc.
When I was a security guard myself, the shittiest part was probably all the paper work. -
2019-03-13 at 10:23 PM UTCThat's what I'm saying, it's just not worth it for them often times. They just like the thrill of catching people. Ole cat and mouse. I can see the appeal. I'd just catch people , get their reaction, merchandise back, and let em go every time. Catch and release typa deal.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-03-13 at 10:27 PM UTCI catch them and get the merch back and their weed. I tell them to never come back and let them go. Then I tell the boss they got away and sell the merch on Ebay and sell the weed to school kids.
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2019-03-13 at 10:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ That's what I'm saying, it's just not worth it for them often times. They just like the thrill of catching people. Ole cat and mouse. I can see the appeal. I'd just catch people , get their reaction, merchandise back, and let em go every time. Catch and release typa deal.
One reason I wasn't a very good security guard was because I used to be super lenient with people drinking, smoking weed, or otherwise loitering.
I mean, if I saw them doing it and did absolutely nothing, I'd get fired pretty quick. But I'd usually just be like "hey, I'm gonna have to ask you to wrap up what you're doing here. I do another round in about 20 minutes, so that should give you enough time to finish that joint or beer."
There was even this one group of teenagers that I would give a heads up to if police were nearby.
People loved me around there. -
2019-03-13 at 10:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Erekshun I catch them and get the merch back and their weed. I tell them to never come back and let them go. Then I tell the boss they got away and sell the merch on Ebay and sell the weed to school kids.
You're just missing one additional revenue stream...
Sell the school kids too.
Profits will go through the roof.
Did you even go to business school? -
2019-03-13 at 10:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL When I worked LP, back in '90's, I had a double row of 4 VCR's continually taping, changing the cassettes when required. So I could simultaneously record eight hot cameras from the floor, staff room, and receiving area, and then when I did inventory, and noticed any irregularities, I could go back and pull up practically anything, going back months. I would imagine, today, they would use computer files to store continuous recordings from the cameras. LP is also responsible for master inventory, so it's very easy to detect a returning actor if he's hit big several times, and what he looks like, and what he's taking. We would take still photos from the video and post them on office wall, so their faces were always fresh in mind.
Even with 4k decks systems today.. People cant always be Identified 100 percent. Reason is where companies mount cameras above suspects. Try hiding cams vertically one above another at different average height levels in the direction of a persons face. 1990 interlaced security cams were to shitty to identify for court use 90% of the time. Its better to have a human witness backing you up
